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Moving To Australia

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  • 13-09-2007 2:07pm
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    Meclor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭


    My husband and I and our 10 month old daughter are considering moving to Australia. I have been there before so I am not able to obtain a 2nd working visa. The only other option is for my husband to obtain sponsorship. I am just wondering has anyone else done the same and what are your thoughts on the process. We are looking at melbourne


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    BuffyBot
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    Meclor - I'm going to move this to the Abroad forum, which is more suitable :)


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    hot fuss
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    That's not the only other option. You can apply for a General Skilled Migration visa where your qualifications are assessed, and your application is decided by a points test. You get points for qualifications, work experience, ability to speak English, age etc...

    Looks really, really complicated, but you don't need sponsorship to do it.

    Check this out - http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1276.pdf

    There are places that you can go and pay them to help you with the application, but you'll probably pay through the nose to do that.


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    Meclor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭Meclor


    Thanks guys,

    Fuss, do you know how long the general skilled visa takes? Our position is we will have hopefully sold our house by xmas and would be in a position to go in Jan. If my husband was to look at sponsorship is this a quicker route? Is there an option of going down there on a holiday visa in the hope of getting sponsorship while we are down there.


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    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Meclor wrote:
    Thanks guys,

    Fuss, do you know how long the general skilled visa takes? Our position is we will have hopefully sold our house by xmas and would be in a position to go in Jan. If my husband was to look at sponsorship is this a quicker route? Is there an option of going down there on a holiday visa in the hope of getting sponsorship while we are down there.


    There is no way you will be ready by then , sorry. There is a thread below that give a timeline You can apply for an onshore visa while there. But if you ask around someone else may be able to give you that info.

    Plus is selling the house by xmas a necessity ...I mean selling up in Ireland moving to Aus with no valid working visa with a 10 month old daughter is you have to a admit a bit hasty.

    I would delay your plans a bit get the Proper skilled visa if you can and go once you have that . The Australians are fairly strict in the enforcement of their laws on immigration. Its not a good idea to be found working in Oz without one.

    Plus selling the house by xmas in the current market could be tricky?

    Best of Luck


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    Meclor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭Meclor


    Jess whiz Zambia you sound like me husband, word for word!!!!! Hmm have you been talking to him, lol!! I was looking on the expat forum and if Im not mistaken the april 07 applicants are rec. their visas now which would been the process took roughly 4 months. Is this right for the 136 visa?


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    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Meclor wrote:
    Jess whiz Zambia you sound like me husband, word for word!!!!! Hmm have you been talking to him, lol!! I was looking on the expat forum and if Im not mistaken the april 07 applicants are rec. their visas now which would been the process took roughly 4 months. Is this right for the 136 visa?

    And you sound like my missus word for word :rolleyes:

    Well if you applied for the visa in Apr 07 yes possibly but the 136 (now the 175 so I hear) Visa requires a skills assessment of a assessment body prior to applying for the Visa Proper this takes about 10 weeks. From the time of application. Unless you are very organised by nature it will take a few weeks to get the paperwork together for that.

    Once that is passed you then go on to apply for the actual visa this I believe takes another 10 weeks. But I see you read the other thread so you know the process.

    Whats the rush ?


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    hot fuss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 421 ✭✭hot fuss


    Check out this thread....

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055066890


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    daveg
    Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭daveg


    Meclor wrote:
    Jess whiz Zambia you sound like me husband, word for word!!!!! Hmm have you been talking to him, lol!! I was looking on the expat forum and if Im not mistaken the april 07 applicants are rec. their visas now which would been the process took roughly 4 months. Is this right for the 136 visa?

    It took us 18 months. If you wanna rush it make sure you have all your paperwork upo front. Thats what delayed us (leaving cert, university results ect ect). I don't think you could get the 136 in 4 months. Search the british expats forum to check how fast people of there have got the visa.

    You could get the 457 sponsored visa but that visa ties you to that job. Loose the job and you only have a short timeframe to find another employer that'll take on your visa as well. If you want to go long term the 136 is the way to go. Have you checked to see if you meet the point requirements?


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    daveg
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    hot fuss wrote:
    That's not the only other option. You can apply for a General Skilled Migration visa where your qualifications are assessed, and your application is decided by a points test. You get points for qualifications, work experience, ability to speak English, age etc...

    Looks really, really complicated, but you don't need sponsorship to do it.

    Check this out - http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1276.pdf

    There are places that you can go and pay them to help you with the application, but you'll probably pay through the nose to do that.

    We used gomatila.com. Also hear Liz O Hagan (may have the name wrong) at Irish visa specialists (http://www.australianvisaspecialists.com). Yes you will pay through the nose for an agent but the paperwork is tricky. One option is the use the agent for the skills assessment only and do the actual visa paperwork yourself. They offer a free pre-assessment which is good so at least you can check if you would qualify for it (for free).


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    Meclor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭Meclor


    Thanks for the info lads.

    I have checked the point system and it seems we are eligible for the 136. Hubbie is starting to gather everything he needs for the tra while I am looking after the paperwork. We are hoping to lodge the TRA in a month and half and get that process moving.

    Just wondering what the story is with sponsorship. If we apply for the 136 and half ways through the application my husband gets offered a sponsorship position, can we go on the 457 while still continuing to apply for the 136.


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    Meclor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭Meclor


    Zambia you asked whats the rush. If house sells here we will have to go live with my MIL until visa is through!!!! Ever see Monster in law!!!


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    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Meclor wrote:
    Thanks for the info lads.

    I have checked the point system and it seems we are eligible for the 136. Hubbie is starting to gather everything he needs for the tra while I am looking after the paperwork. We are hoping to lodge the TRA in a month and half and get that process moving.

    Just wondering what the story is with sponsorship. If we apply for the 136 and half ways through the application my husband gets offered a sponsorship position, can we go on the 457 while still continuing to apply for the 136.

    Hmm that would be a question for the brief you hire to do this for you, I would just go with the 136/175 unless you think the chances of someone sponsoring you are that good. Look into what you can apply for while in Australia as there is a different process depending on where you apply from.

    The 136 I think has been replaced by the 175 but essentailly there the same form. I think however the main focuss now would be the Skills thing.

    As for living with the mother in Law , best hang on to the house as long as you can by setting a long moving out time on your contracts.

    You really must have loved Australia ....? To be in such a rush toget back.


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    man1
    Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭man1


    There is another thread going in the abroad forum about this subject, have a look there.

    You can now apply for the 175 GSM visa online and I hear it is only going to take about 3-4 months for the whole thing which is a lot better than the paper application for the 136 visa which was taking up to 18 months in some cases.
    A lot of people who have applied in the last week already have already been requested medicals and police checks where before it was taking 6-8 months for this!!!!
    You will also get acknowledgement of your application immediately which is great.

    The only thing that could hold you up is getting assessed before the application and for the TRA it can take 2-3 months but not as long for CPA or some of the others. Once you have your skills assessment you should fly through.
    (by the way the rules have changed for TRA as of sept
    1st so it might be a good idea to check this out as a lot of people are going to miss out as a result of this)

    Good luck to all applying.


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    Meclor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭Meclor


    Hi man,

    yeah was looking at the rule change for the TRA. What I cant figure out though is whether it will have any bearing on the IT area or whether its for workers in the trades industry. My hubbie is a senior software developer with 13+ exp however he only ever did a years formal training. At the moment we are hoping to go through the TRA on the RPL application.


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    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Meclor wrote:
    Hi man,

    yeah was looking at the rule change for the TRA. What I cant figure out though is whether it will have any bearing on the IT area or whether its for workers in the trades industry. My hubbie is a senior software developer with 13+ exp however he only ever did a years formal training. At the moment we are hoping to go through the TRA on the RPL application.

    In the IT area only one thing was added , I dont remember anything being removed. with 13 years in he should be fine.

    However he needs to show a speciality in one skill Java , Oracle , etc , and relations with current employers are crucial.


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    man1
    Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭man1


    Are you sure you have to do TRA fot IT? Is there not a different assessing body for that?

    EDIT: Just checked, it is the ACS assessment body that would deal with you so there are no changes there AFAIK. The only changes affect TRA. (I think??)


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    Meclor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭Meclor


    ya its the ACS that he goes through. He has already started the RPL. Jeez, there really is allot of work goes into the rpl.


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    Meclor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭Meclor


    Meclor wrote:
    ya its the ACS that he goes through. He has already started the RPL. Jeez, there really is allot of work goes into the rpl.

    Zambia, how do you mean relations with current employer. Everything is fine in that regard however I am wondering if they will contact his current employer as they don't know he is leaving yet.


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    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Meclor wrote:
    Zambia, how do you mean relations with current employer. Everything is fine in that regard however I am wondering if they will contact his current employer as they don't know he is leaving yet.

    No they wont but if he needs his current employer to verify the years of experience , he is going to have to have them vouch for the years he worked as a x specialist in writing.

    See where the solicitor comes in handy, its a true minefield?

    EDIT So check all details with solicitor or someone more knowledgable than me, before making any rash conversations his case may be different to people i have known.


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