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Irish/Uk speed cams

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  • 16-09-2007 12:11am
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    BRM
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭


    Got flashed in the UK this morning just outside Birmingham in my Irish car, am I facing points?

    Have the DVLA managed to work out the points with the privates operating here?


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    afatbollix
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    no they havent


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    BRM
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭BRM


    so im guessing its the same with UK/Northern cars over here so?


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    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    BRM wrote:
    so im guessing its the same with UK/Northern cars over here so?

    UK & Northern cars caught in the Republic , Do not get Pionts

    Northern Cars In the Republic & the UK do not get pionts

    Republic cars in the UK & the North do not get pionts

    Ergo you dont get pionts worst case is a fine...


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    ~~SKYHIGH~~
    Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭~~SKYHIGH~~


    In current legislation you will not get points but that is set to change as the uk/irish system interwines


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    Seth Brundle
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    Zambia232 wrote:
    UK & Northern cars caught in the Republic , Do not get Pionts

    Northern Cars In the Republic & the UK do not get pionts

    Republic cars in the UK & the North do not get pionts

    Ergo you dont get pionts worst case is a fine...
    Aren't they keeping the points due to NI/UK registered cars caught offending here and when the systems merge they will then be applied?


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    1huge1
    Registered Users Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭1huge1


    Zambia232 wrote:
    UK & Northern cars caught in the Republic , Do not get Pionts

    Northern Cars In the Republic & the UK do not get pionts

    Republic cars in the UK & the North do not get pionts

    Ergo you dont get pionts worst case is a fine...
    Last time I checked Northern Ireland was in the UK... Would of assumed they had all the one system

    Guess I was wrong


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    Zambia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    1huge1 wrote:
    Guess I was wrong

    Happens to the best of us.

    Yes its hard to believe , but true. And I have heard nothing about a collection of pionts to be applied at a later date.


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    BRM
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭BRM


    I guess it wont take long to change that with the new private run cameras going up around the country.

    The UK is full of them, some sat Nav systems have the fixed camera hotspots on them, it might be worth investing in one for the future, I was never into these laser jammers people talk about too much uncertainty about the legality of them.


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    Type 17
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    Currently there is no interchange of points between the UK/NI and the RoI, but the two countries' governments are trying to get it together to make it stick in both places (all of the EU is working on this too, as there are huge issues on the continent with all of the land borders).

    Currently there is no interchange of points at all, coming soon (2008) there will be a tie up for drivers banned (get banned in UK/NI or RoI and you're banned in the other place too, so no driving on a UK licence while your Irish one is suspended). This is easy, as you're either banned or not banned.

    Later on, there will be interchange of points, but the systems will have to change - speeding in UK means 3 points out of a possible 12, whereas over here it means 2/4 points. Other countries in the EU have different systems again, eg: in Italy, your licence starts off with 12 points, which are removed as you are convicted of driving offences.


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    r0nn13
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    1huge1 wrote:
    Last time I checked Northern Ireland was in the UK... Would of assumed they had all the one system

    Guess I was wrong

    Yes the UK does include Northern Ireland under its main government, but both mainland Britain (ENG, SCO, WAL) and Northern Ireland have separate departments in charge of motoring (DVLA and the DVLNI respectively), and separate Police Forces too. They have a link to exchange details of motoring offences in place for a while now, but once upon a time they were totally separate...

    Once the UK/Ireland points system goes live (next year i think) then any Irish or UK driver will get points in any of the UK or Ireland so all 3 systems will be linked.

    Once this happens then the rest of Western Europe should fall in line one by one, but not sure there are any plans for Eastern Europe to follow...

    Don't like the fact you can get up to 4 points for speeding in Ireland and only 3 in the UK though... should be the same all over Europe for all points before they all link up...


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    MrPudding
    Registered Users Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    r0nn13 wrote:
    Yes the UK does include Northern Ireland under its main government, but both mainland Britain (ENG, SCO, WAL) and Northern Ireland have separate departments in charge of motoring (DVLA and the DVLNI respectively), and separate Police Forces too. They have a link to exchange details of motoring offences in place for a while now, but once upon a time they were totally separate...
    There is still no automatic compatibility for points. If a NI driver is caught speeding inthe UK it is a court appearance, and the reverse is also true. it is possible to apply for a new counterpart for you license which allows you to "avail" (their choice of word) of the penalty point system.

    MrP


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    1huge1
    Registered Users Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭1huge1


    r0nn13 wrote:
    Yes the UK does include Northern Ireland under its main government, but both mainland Britain (ENG, SCO, WAL) and Northern Ireland have separate departments in charge of motoring (DVLA and the DVLNI respectively), and separate Police Forces too. They have a link to exchange details of motoring offences in place for a while now, but once upon a time they were totally separate...

    Once the UK/Ireland points system goes live (next year i think) then any Irish or UK driver will get points in any of the UK or Ireland so all 3 systems will be linked.

    Once this happens then the rest of Western Europe should fall in line one by one, but not sure there are any plans for Eastern Europe to follow...

    Don't like the fact you can get up to 4 points for speeding in Ireland and only 3 in the UK though... should be the same all over Europe for all points before they all link up...

    Thanks for clearing that up

    I'm sure with the way the EU is making us all under one system they will have the same points for driving offence's in a few years


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