Fired.............Period!!!

EdK

Courtesy of ECW.com:

Marcus Cor Von released
Written: September 19, 2007

As first reported by WWE Mobile Alerts, WWE has come to terms on the release of ECW Superstar Marcus Cor Von as of September 19. We wish him the best in all his future endeavors.

Monty Brown/Marcus Cor Von was on an extended leave of absence due to family issues. Apparently WWE had - had enough and fired him today.

ShawnRaven

He can pounce his way back to TNA! Quite frankly, they could use him more than WWE.

VR!

EdK

TBH I see him getting out of wrestling, and going full time with fitness training

He had a run but I dont think he has any great love for wrestling, he could take it or leave it

That said with TNA going 2 hrs they could take him back, he was never astounding for them but he had his role and was solid enough

estebancambias

He will be re-hired by December. It makes sense to release him, while he is dealing with the death of his sister and then at a later date they can discuss a return.

DerekSmalls

His sister died? Where did you hear this? All i've seen is that it was a very personal family issue - no details.

Fozzy

I think it was the Observer that reported that he had to look after his sisters kids when she died, so he just didn't have the time to wrestle when it happened. I was wondering if this was coming after reading that Sonny Siaki had been released because he was dealing with family issues

I've never been a fan of his. If TNA don't want him back then I'd say he'll get out of the business

ShawnRaven

I'd say there's a fairly good chance that TNA will grab him back. He's been pretty much established there and it will only be a matter of time that they'll cop on that the former WWE guys aren't drawing as well as expected.

VR!

Double C

We should have one set 'Your Fired' thread rather than making a seperate one for every Tom, Dick and Harry, or Teddy in this case.

GERWECK.NET has learned that Teddy Hart was fired earlier this afternoon. Hart had been under a developmental deal, and wrestling both in Tampa and Louisville, and was slated to be apart of the New Hart Foundation on WWE television.

Shame about the Hart Foundation not happening, this will probably hold Harry Smith back which is a bad thing. I'm not a Teddy Hart fan at all though so I don't really mind

flahavaj

Double C wrote: »

We should have one set 'Your Fired' thread rather than making a seperate one for every Tom, Dick and Harry, or Teddy in this case.



Shame about the Hart Foundation not happening, this will probably hold Harry Smith back which is a bad thing. I'm not a Teddy Hart fan at all though so I don't really mind

I'm not even 1% surprised. Teddy Hart is an asshole.

rossie1977

^^^ well i disagree, he, like all the bret's kids are really nice. teddy is mental about the business, he will be back.

I bet he didn't do anything half as bad as randy orton has done over the past 18 months, yet for his crimes he is world champ

Kid Nothing

rossie1977 wrote: »

^^^ well i disagree, he, like all the bret's kids are really nice. teddy is mental about the business, he will be back.

I bet he didn't do anything half as bad as randy orton has done over the past 18 months, yet for his crimes he is world champ

As much as I love to see him on tv, you just don't get fired from the same company twice without being seriously immature and unprofessional. He's extremely talented and has the heritage for the business but his attitude as let him down far too often. He's still young though so here's hoping he'll be back in a few years winning world title's

rossie1977

amull87 wrote: »

As much as I love to see him on tv, you just don't get fired from the same company twice without being seriously immature and unprofessional.

Jim ross anyone

ShawnRaven

rossie1977 wrote: »

Jim ross anyone

Marty Jannetty, Dustin Runnels, Joey Mercury... the list goes on and on!
VR!

Fozzy

Randy's a lot more talented than Teddy Hart anyway. Harry Smith's better off without him!

rossie1977

Fozzy wrote: »

Randy's a lot more talented than Teddy Hart anyway. Harry Smith's better off without him!

Completely different types of wrestler so unfair to compare. Some of the stuff hart does, orton could only dream of pulling off to be fair.

haven't seen enough of smith to be honest, from what i have seen he looks a big guy with little charisma (that won't get him very far)

ShawnRaven

Fozzy wrote: »

Randy's a lot more talented than Teddy Hart anyway. Harry Smith's better off without him!

Teddy is a talented guy, i'll give him that. But he has such a f*cking attitude problem! Is there anywhere he hasn't managed to get fired from yet?

VR!

ShawnRaven

rossie1977 wrote: »

haven't seen enough of smith to be honest, from what i have seen he looks a big guy with little charisma (that won't get him very far)

Rock in 1996 anyone?
Moral of the story. Give him time, he'll learn

VR!

gimmick

Teddy Hart is Brets son? Thats a new one on me.

Ive yet to see a Teddy Hart match I have liked. Just cannot take to him.

rossie1977

johnson already had charisma in 1996, if harry smith makes it is a big as johnson i will eat this keyboard and yours too VR

ShawnRaven

rossie1977 wrote: »

johnson already had charisma in 1996

No he didn't, he had a stupid haircut and big-ass grin!
VR!

rossie1977

gimmick wrote: »

Teddy Hart is Brets son? Thats a new one on me.

Ive yet to see a Teddy Hart match I have liked. Just cannot take to him.

teddy is bret's nephew, bret has two sons dallas and blade and two daughters jade and beans...

rossie1977

validreasoning! wrote: »

No he didn't, he had a stupid haircut and big-ass grin!
VR!

so he plucked his charisma from thin air then don't buy that; johnson always had charisma, just wasn't allowed showcase at first, you can't teach a guy to be more charismatic, you can teach him to be a better wrestler/speaker but charisma is a talent. similar with santino, he didn't just become more charismatic overnight when he turned heel.

i have watched a few of his old hurricane games and he had a massive afro back then, must have been 5 inches high :eek:

kyp_durron

What makes Teddy Hart better then your average flippy macflip flip spot monkey? I know that seems like flame bait, but I really would like to know

ShawnRaven

rossie1977 wrote: »

he didn't just become more charismatic overnight when he turned heel.

But thats just it, he did! From what the world saw, he did. And that's all that counts![/QUOTE]

ShawnRaven

kyp_durron wrote: »

What makes Teddy Hart better then your average flippy macflip flip spot monkey? I know that seems like flame bait, but I really would like to know

It's the RVD syndrome. But people dig that sort of thing. Some people dig Orton too, even if a lot of his matches are boring-ass restholds.

Horses for courses, i guess.
VR!

rossie1977

kyp_durron wrote: »

What makes Teddy Hart better then your average flippy macflip flip spot monkey? I know that seems like flame bait, but I really would like to know

let me turn it around, why are untalented bums like Mark Henry, Khali, snitsky, jim duggan, batista, Chuck Palumbo on the WWE roster ahead of teddy hart. Khali i can live with because he is unique but the rest are shi*e

kyp_durron

validreasoning! wrote: »

It's the RVD syndrome. But people dig that sort of thing. Some people dig Orton too, even if a lot of his matches are boring-ass restholds.

Horses for courses, i guess.
VR!

Granted, I guess I just don't get it with him. Also if he ever did make it to WWE would he be allowed do all his crazy moves? Cause without them, what does he have to offer? He's 27 too, not all that young, and if he keeps ****ing up like he is now he will never make it. Hell even ROH won't have anything to do with him.

kyp_durron

rossie1977 wrote: »

let me turn it around, why are untalented bums like Mark Henry, Khali, snitsky, jim duggan, batista, Chuck Palumbo on the WWE roster ahead of teddy hart. Khali i can live with because he is unique but the rest are shi*e

I agree with that completely. I would rather watch Teddy Hart then any of these wrestlers, I still think London or Kendrick do the same style, but a lot better tbh as do a lot of other wrestlers.

slicus ricus

rossie1977 wrote: »

let me turn it around, why are untalented bums like Mark Henry, Khali, snitsky, jim duggan, batista, Chuck Palumbo on the WWE roster ahead of teddy hart. Khali i can live with because he is unique but the rest are shi*e

One word - SIZE!!! Apparently its quite important in Pro Wrestling!

Also, unlike Teddy Hart, all of the above havnt f**ked up everywhere they've gone and burned all their bridges. They all appear to be professional with good attitudes, while Teddy appears to be highly unprofessional with a bad attitude. In my opinion, anyone who s**ts all over Pro Wrestling by no selling a finish and doing moonsaults off cages instead has no place in the business. Have any of the guys you've mentioned above done anything like that, been given a second chance with WWE and f**ked up again???

Think that explains basically why those guys are on the main roster and Teddy Hart is not.

rossie1977

slicus ricus wrote: »

in my opinion, anyone who s**ts all over Pro Wrestling by no selling a finish and doing moonsaults off cages instead has no place in the business.

that was all of four years ago and he was sacked for it :eek:, i bet you have no problem with triple h and undertaker "no selling" night after night.

i don't know but hart seems to be the most controversial guy in wrestling today (most of it is put-on i bet to create an image) because talking with him he seems like a pretty down to earth guy.

still controversy creates cash; they wouldn't even need to create a gimmick for him.

i do agree with the size thing though, that story that vince sent guys into golds gym in venice beach just to sign up the biggest guys there is fu*kin sickening imo. more batista's and chris masters', hip hip hooray

Bubs101

rossie1977 wrote: »

let me turn it around, why are untalented bums like Mark Henry, Khali, snitsky, jim duggan, batista, Chuck Palumbo on the WWE roster ahead of teddy hart. Khali i can live with because he is unique but the rest are shi*e

In all fairness, Batista and Henry aren't talentless and they both have massive prescence in the ring. WWE would miis the big guys more than you'd think

slicus ricus

rossie1977 wrote: »

that was all of four years ago and he was sacked for it :eek:, i bet you have no problem with triple h and undertaker "no selling" night after night.

I am aware that it was 4 yrs ago nd that he was sacked, but the underlying issue was that he neglected one of the core values of Pro Wrestling to put himself over. By doing so he showed extreme selfishness and that he was prepared to put himself over at the expense of the business. What makes you think that he suddenly cares about the business?

By the way, when did Triple H or undertaker EVER no sell the finish of a match?

rossie1977 wrote: »

i don't know but hart seems to be the most controversial guy in wrestling today (most of it is put-on i bet to create an image) because talking with him he seems like a pretty down to earth guy.

still controversy creates cash; they wouldn't even need to create a gimmick for him.

You cannot seriously suggest that Hart would be stupid enough to deliberately black ball himself from numerous promotions and create one of the worst reputations in wrestling just to create controversy?

I know you met him in a social circumstance and have forged an opinion of him based on that. That's perfectly understandable but people can be different when it comes to business. I've met so many people from different walks of life who were sound and down to earth in a social context but when it came to business and self interest, they'd stab their best mates in the back to get ahead.

rossie1977

there have been plenty of big guys with talent; bigelow, vader, awesome, jacobs, wight (before he balloned to over 450lb), yoko, umanga, rikishi etc etc.

Nelson Frazier is far more talented than mark henry imo but henry keeps getting pushed because he signed a big money deal all those years ago.

dave batista i will never get, he is not even that big in real life (only a little bigger than cena)

rossie1977

slicus ricus wrote: »

I know you met him in a social circumstance and have forged an opinion of him based on that. That's perfectly understandable but people can be different when it comes to business. I've met so many people from different walks of life who were sound and down to earth in a social context but when it came to business and self interest, they'd stab their best mates in the back to get ahead.

fair point, i cannot argue with that.

its always opposite with me though, social circumstances sometimes bring out the worst in people, especially when alcohol is involved.

DerekSmalls

rossie1977 wrote: »

there have been plenty of big guys with talent; bigelow, vader, awesome, jacobs, wight (before he balloned to over 450lb), yoko, umanga, rikishi etc etc.

Nelson Frazier is far more talented than mark henry imo but henry keeps getting pushed because he signed a big money deal all those years ago.

dave batista i will never get, he is not even that big in real life (only a little bigger than cena)

Why do you keep refering to wrestlers by their real names?

Bubs101

Gotta agree with derek, it's airly annoying. Big Daddy V is getting a push and I think he's a former (hardcore) champ and Batista is big

ShawnRaven

Also it's Umaga, not Umanga. Even Regal's joke of mispronouncing his name got tiring after week one.

VR!

kyp_durron

validreasoning! wrote: »

Also it's Umaga, not Umanga. Even Regal's joke of mispronouncing his name got tiring after week one.

VR!

Well, to be honest, I still think it's funny.

ShawnRaven

Was actually talking about this to a friend, but i think i've had some sort of humour bypass and nobody informed me. I don't find Regal's mispronounciations amusing. Jericho did it way better in my opinion. I also find Santinoa Marella an annoyinga as hella! It was funny the firsta weeka but nowa he's justa milking it!

VR!

slicus ricus

rossie1977 wrote: »

dave batista i will never get, he is not even that big in real life (only a little bigger than cena)

Batista is freekin huge and lean as well. Cena is also huge and lean. Both guys are in awesome shape and have the bodybuilder look Vince goes for - in fact both actually competed in bodybuilding competitions before getting into wrestling.

The main problems with Big Daddy V is that he is fat and not very mobile - on a side note, they should really start covering up his upper body again:(. Henry on the other hand, I cant understand at all why he gets pushed - he cant work, doesnt have the look, and his carelessness has caused injuries to so many guys over the years.

chopperbyrne

slicus ricus wrote: »

Batista is freekin huge and lean as well. Cena is also huge and lean. Both guys are in awesome shape and have the bodybuilder look Vince goes for - in fact both actually competed in bodybuilding competitions before getting into wrestling.

The main problems with Big Daddy V is that he is fat and not very mobile - on a side note, they should really start covering up his upper body again:(. Henry on the other hand, I cant understand at all why he gets pushed - he cant work, doesnt have the look, and his carelessness has caused injuries to so many guys over the years.

Injuries to who?

Most of them have been kayfabe.

If you put Henry in the ring with someone like Mysterio you should expect an injury. There's only so much protection you can get when a 400 odd pound man splashes you.

HBK

The main problems with Big Daddy V is that he is fat and not very mobile - on a side note, they should really start covering up his upper body again:(. Henry on the other hand, I cant understand at all why he gets pushed - he cant work, doesnt have the look, and his carelessness has caused injuries to so many guys over the years.

Nah i dont think so, i think the whole shirtless look works well with his character....and he is(or has been in years past) very agile for a man his size(spinnign heal kick)..granted bit slow tog et up but u wud be to at 500+....hes getting on in years now and you can notice the slowdown.

but......

on topic.......not suprised bout Harts release, tho i am disappointed.... the 'New Hart foundation' angle cud have worked well.......heard rumours they were considering have them run a programme with hbk.....which wud of been good compared to the ****e currently on shows.......and talk of bringing Bret in for a one shot deal to introduce them etc...wud of worked very well if done properly..........now it looks like all were left with is....Harry smith coming up on his own, which IMO does not have near the same effect or storeyline options...but im sure some will disagree

slicus ricus

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Injuries to who?

Most of them have been kayfabe.

While some of them may have been kayfabe, Henry legitimately injured undertaker, Kurt Angle, and Batista. I read in the blurb of his new book that Batista blames Henry's carelessness for the tricep injury he suffered a while back.

slicus ricus

HBK wrote: »

now it looks like all were left with is....Harry smith coming up on his own, which IMO does not have near the same effect or storeyline options...but im sure some will disagree

Why not still have a faction with Harry Smith & TJ Wilson (the Stampede Bulldogs) with Nattie Neidhart and possibly Ted Dibiase Jr. Fair enough, it wont be the Hart foundation, but it could still be a sucessful faction if done properly.

ShawnRaven

slicus ricus wrote: »

While some of them may have been kayfabe, Henry legitimately injured undertaker, Kurt Angle, and Batista. I read in the blurb of his new book that Batista blames Henry's carelessness for the tricep injury he suffered a while back.

Angle's and Batista's were definitely kayfaved. Angle's back was giving him grief for months as a result of his miracle neck surgery that was only a short term solution, and he knew that would be the case when he agreed to it in 2003. Instead of going to Youngblood, he went to Jho so he could get back in the ring quicker!

Batista was the first one to say he was injured before he was even in the program with Mizark Hizenry but he was working through it. I love how a lot of people change their stories for books though!

VR!

rossie1977

Batista is freekin huge and lean as well. Cena is also huge and lean. Both guys are in awesome shape and have the bodybuilder look Vince goes for - in fact both actually competed in bodybuilding competitions before getting into wrestling

batista was an ex-bodybuilder, i didn't know that Cena was for definite and he was much bigger back then. Cena is very lean and deceptively tall, same with orton who is a fair bit taller than batista out of gear, yet is billed shorter

its silly and dangerous having guys like henry, wight, BDV in the ring with people like kendrick, mysterio etc. one wrong move and the little guy is dead

slicus ricus

validreasoning! wrote: »

Angle's and Batista's were definitely kayfaved. Angle's back was giving him grief for months as a result of his miracle neck surgery that was only a short term solution, and he knew that would be the case when he agreed to it in 2003. Instead of going to Youngblood, he went to Jho so he could get back in the ring quicker!

Batista was the first one to say he was injured before he was even in the program with Mizark Hizenry but he was working through it. I love how a lot of people change their stories for books though!

VR!

The Angle injury i am talking about was during the program he and Henry had in January/February 2006 - At first it was thought to be a serious enough injury, but it turned out to be a relatively minor injury, which did not require surgery and Angle worked through it. This one may have been worked but from what i recall, the feeling at the time was that it was legit.

With Batista, he had an injured lat muscle that he was working through. Then in a house show match with Mark Henry in January 2006, Henry injured his tricep, which forced him to have surgery. The injury he was working through and the one he suffered in the match against Henry were completely unrelated.

chopperbyrne

That would be like Bret Hart blaming Goldberg or Austin blaming Owen and then calling them unsafe workers because of it.

Accidents happen.

If he was unsafe he would be long gone.

Ahmed Johnson springs to mind.

ShawnRaven

slicus ricus wrote: »

The Angle injury i am talking about was during the program he and Henry had in January/February 2006 - At first it was thought to be a serious enough injury, but it turned out to be a relatively minor injury, which did not require surgery and Angle worked through it. This one may have been worked but from what i recall, the feeling at the time was that it was legit.

That's the one i referred to. But it was definitely written into the storyline from what i remember. Angles injury was serious, but he was in total denial about it. Mizark is definitely not to blame for that one.

With Batista, he had an injured lat muscle that he was working through. Then in a house show match with Mark Henry in January 2006, Henry injured his tricep, which forced him to have surgery. The injury he was working through and the one he suffered in the match against Henry were completely unrelated.

Again, from what i recall of that, Mizark had bugger all to do with that as Big Dave was riddled with injuries he was working through stemming back as far as Survivor Series the previous year. And he even said that himself in interviews during the time he was off.

VR!

ShawnRaven

chopperbyrne wrote: »

That would be like Bret Hart blaming Goldberg or Austin blaming Owen and then calling them unsafe workers because of it.

Accidents happen.

If he was unsafe he would be long gone.

Ahmed Johnson springs to mind.

Ahmed Johnson was more responsible for injuring himself more than anyone else! He was more accident prone than Kevin Nash!!

VR!

flahavaj

validreasoning! wrote: »

I also find Santinoa Marella an annoyinga as hella! It was funny the firsta weeka but nowa he's justa milking it!

VR!

He IS playing an annoying heel role, in fairness, maybe he's doing his job better than you give him credit for!