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Is this something only a middle class person could say?

  • 21-09-2007 2:57pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭


    So, I was chatting to the missus last night and she told me if she ever loses her job, it's cool, because she will just become a wine or coffee taster.

    She knows nothing about wine or coffee tasting.

    Now, I reckon what she said is a classic example of the middle class brain (note: I am middle class too.)

    She disagrees. She thinks it's a normal thing to say.

    What do you think?

    If I lose my job, it's OK, I will just become a wine or coffee taster 50 votes

    Typical middle class
    0% 0 votes
    Anyone could say it
    56% 28 votes
    Aww-taww-ree jawwg-u-orrrr
    44% 22 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Anyone tbh.

    **** it...I'll become a taste tester for Diageo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    Im confused


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Fanny Wank


    lets hope this thread dies a very quick death.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    I imagine a posh toff is capable of saying that too... although they may not have a job to lose in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭wowy


    Well there was an article in The Irish Times, I think it was in the Commercial Property Section on Wednesday, which was about how wealthy people spend their money, and it talked about how wine tasting and associated activities has become very popular among the uber-rich in the USA and Europe. Perhaps she was just trying to be clever and make a joke about that?


    Probably not though. She was probably just being a bit clueless. Surely there can't be all that much money in coffee tasting anyway?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    I'm just interested in the fact youu know how to become a wine taster.
    Tell me more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    kaimera wrote:
    Anyone tbh.

    **** it...I'll become a taste tester for Diageo.

    I'm already doing that. Pay is cr@p, in fact you pay them. Its a labour of love really....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    I'm already doing that. Pay is cr@p, in fact you pay them. Its a labour of love really....


    Being paid for dinking, and here's me doing it for free like a schmuck:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Dara Robinson


    .... this is a pretty strange thread :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    .... this is a pretty strange thread :)
    strange and dead


    but yes strange


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    DavyD_83 wrote:
    Being paid for dinking, and here's me doing it for free like a schmuck:rolleyes:

    Sorry to be pedantic, but it made me giggle :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    dublindude wrote:
    So, I was chatting to the missus last night and she told me if she ever loses her job, it's cool, because she will just become a wine or coffee taster.

    Now, I reckon what she said is a classic example of the middle class brain (note: I am middle class too.)

    What do you think?

    Have you been 'tasting wine' tonight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    dublindude wrote:
    So, I was chatting to the missus last night and she told me if she ever loses her job, it's cool, because she will just become a wine or coffee taster.

    She knows nothing about wine or coffee tasting.

    Now, I reckon what she said is a classic example of the middle class brain (note: I am middle class too.)

    She disagrees. She thinks it's a normal thing to say.

    What do you think?

    I don't understand.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    dublindude wrote:
    So, I was chatting to the missus last night and she told me if she ever loses her job, it's cool, because she will just become a wine or coffee taster.

    ...

    What do you think?

    I think she means that if she loses her job she will become an alcoholic. The coffee reference is just a facade. I don't think you have to be of any particular socio-economic background to become an alco, although it's much better if you can spill chateau lafitte all over the place and let your butler clean it up.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,343 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    If ever there was a poll screaming out for an Atari Jaguar option...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,881 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    wtf? what sorta person WOULD say it then? upper class? coz theres a mention of wine? i dont get the coffee thing at all though. must be coz i dont drink coffee. or wine for that matter!! :eek: oh my god, what does that make me?!?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Zaph wrote:
    If ever there was a poll screaming out for an Atari Jaguar option...
    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    wowy wrote:
    Well there was an article in The Irish Times, I think it was in the Commercial Property Section on Wednesday, which was about how wealthy people spend their money, and it talked about how wine tasting and associated activities has become very popular among the uber-rich in the USA and Europe. Perhaps she was just trying to be clever and make a joke about that?


    Probably not though. She was probably just being a bit clueless. Surely there can't be all that much money in coffee tasting anyway?

    HAhahahahaha


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Fanny Wank


    dublindude wrote:
    Now, I reckon what she said is a classic example of the middle class brain

    No that is something that any over self important spawn of the Celtic tiger would say.

    For some reason a lot of people these days think that spending €4 on a cup of coffee or drinking over priced wine in a 'trendy' shithole makes them 'middle class'. The kind of people who drank tea and beer in the 90's but when fancy coffees and wine bars became fashionable jumped ship and went with the tide.

    PS: this gets my vote for most retarded thread in the histroy of boards


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Fanny Wank


    The_B_Man wrote:
    wtf? what sorta person WOULD say it then? upper class? coz theres a mention of wine? i dont get the coffee thing at all though. must be coz i dont drink coffee. or wine for that matter!! :eek: oh my god, what does that make me?!?!

    +1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    LMFAO at the Poll - Third Option

    Nice One

    HOW NOW BROWN COW :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭Dr_Teeth


    There's nothing particularly class-based about your wife's comment, it's just dumb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    This thread is sooooooooooooo Sept 21st 2007.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭oranjeboom


    dublindude wrote:
    Now, I reckon what she said is a classic example of the middle class brain


    What is a middle class brain supposed to be like?????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    humanji wrote:
    pedantic, :D
    Not interested in the thread...but only found out what this word meant the other day and am dyin to use it in a sentence!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭wyk


    I dunno what all middle and upper and lower class is in Europe, but I DO know I can tell you what sort of grape, and what area the wine is from in a blind taste test most of the time, and if it's worth a damn or not. You simply acquire it with age and cirrhosis.

    I'm poor southern trash ;)

    But I dunno any Southern Gals that would ever say such a thing. as you stated.

    Wez


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    middle class?

    *shudder


    Are we going that way like the Brits? Where everyone is divided into classes.

    middle class, upper middle medium rare class. etc.

    *shudder.

    I really hope we don't go this way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    The-Rigger wrote:
    middle class?

    *shudder


    Are we going that way like the Brits? Where everyone is divided into classes.

    middle class, upper middle medium rare class. etc.

    *shudder.

    I really hope we don't go this way.


    LOL, ummm...welcome to...forever?
    We've had class distinctions here for as long as the english have been here and the minute they left we did our best to out do them.
    Class divides may be a little less visible here than in Britain, but they are every bit as bad...and it's become a lot worse since we landed ourselves newfound wealth.

    Back on topic: what the hell kind of job is coffee/wine tatsing?
    It has to be some sort of specialist job for people with very developed palettes and tastebuds....I mean it's not as if you can just turn round and say "Oh ya, I absolutely adoore the old vino and a drop of costa rican double roast....so when can I start ?"
    Next thing you know there'll be FÁS courses for this niche industry.

    OP has your partner ever considered that if she looses her job, chances are that a lot of other people too will be loosing their jobs and that items of mass consumption like coffee and wine won't be the huge money spinners that they've been under our tiger economy? I doubt there'll then be enough demand in the industries to accomadate the legions of middle class ladies trying to avoid the dole office...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Wertz wrote:
    LOL, ummm...welcome to...forever?
    We've had class distinctions here for as long as the english have been here and the minute they left we did our best to out do them.
    Class divides may be a little less visible here than in Britain, but they are every bit as bad...and it's become a lot worse since we landed ourselves newfound wealth.

    Of course we have people of various means and wealth.

    But, I don't hear 'upper class, middle class' etc being used to refer to or describe people via our media, homegrown tv shows, or by joe public.

    I have never heard anyone in Ireland refer to themselves or someone else in the following ways:

    'That family are middle class/upper/lower' etc
    'As part of the middle class, I believe....'

    etc.

    Maybe if I frequented D4 I would hear these conversations?

    I wouldn't have a clue what the requirementss to be considered lower/middle/upper class are.

    Am I leaving any class divisions out? Are there more than 3?

    *shudder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    People don't refer to themselves as anything, they just quietly fit themselves in. And if you don't think the Irish have class distinctions before the celtic tiger, you're blind. The difference between the Irish and English is that the Irish like to pretend they're egalitarian and down-to-earth. They're not, and never have been.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    People don't refer to themselves as anything, they just quietly fit themselves in. And if you don't think the Irish have class distinctions before the celtic tiger, you're blind. The difference between the Irish and English is that the Irish like to pretend they're egalitarian and down-to-earth. They're not, and never have been.

    Yes, we pretend it very well.

    The irish are down to earth, most of us, that's what I enjoy about the country. It's what makes us very differerent to the English and the Americans, but similar to Australians, in my experiences.

    It's why I always look forward to getting home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    The-Rigger wrote:
    Yes, we pretend it very well.

    The irish are down to earth, most of us, that's what I enjoy about the country. It's what makes us very differerent to the English and the Americans, but similar to Australians, in my experiences.

    It's why I always look forward to getting home.

    Lowest common denominator is not the same as "down to earth". The Irish are very down to earth - provided you fit in with the status quo. Anyone outside the alcohol - soaked social norm is generally unwelcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    The Irish are very down to earth - provided you fit in with the status quo. Anyone outside the alcohol - soaked social norm is generally unwelcome.

    Are pubs the only place people interact?

    I find Irish people from all walks of life and of varying ages very easy to talk to, and friendly.


    Lowest common denominator is not the same as "down to earth".

    Can you explain what you mean by this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    A "Down to earth" quality of fuss-free common sense anyone can possess, regardless of class. Lowest Common Denominator is simply the point where you can go no lower!

    Mike.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,463 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    wowy wrote:
    Surely there can't be all that much money in coffee tasting anyway?
    You could be a mystery shopper for Star*ucks?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    Middle class is an invention. There used to be upper class (landed, titled gentry type people) and working class (everyone else). Then the more successful working class people progressed and did things like BUY the factory in which they used to work. They weren't landed, titled gentry, but they didn't like being called working class, so they created a distinction - middle class - and stuck themselves in it.

    I'm with whoever said your wife's not middle class, just stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭Newaglish


    I just... don't know what you want us to say?

    Do you need people on an internet forum to reassure you that both yourself and your wife are middle class?

    How does one qualify as middle class anyway? Where you work? How much money you earn? How much money your parents have? Your accent?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,579 ✭✭✭Pet


    I love this thread. It's a microcosm of boards.ie. People bitching about the term "middle class" and those who refer to themselves as same; people bitching about the people who bitched; all the usual buzzwords (although, I didn't see "affluent". Can someone please put "affluent" into a sentence, please? It's not a discussion about Ireland's wealth without that word, see.); speculations of a burgeoning economic downturn, discussions of overpriced commodities, and references to the Saithside.

    Keep going, guys.


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