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Sack o' Sullivan and The Goons that extended his Contract

  • 21-09-2007 9:55pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,951 ✭✭✭


    Most will say this is OTT but the World Cup has been really disappointing. We now need FOUR TRYS against Argentina!!!!

    Sack Eddie when we get home for the following reasons in no particular order
    1. No tactical plan.
    2. No Cutting edge
    3. Poor preparation coming up to the game
    4. Picking Andrew Trimble
    5. The alienation of Geordan Murphy
    6. Too predictable
    7. No imagination
    8. No alteration of players in early games to allow them get to know each other
    9. No development of fringe players

    Also why oh why was he given an extension BEFORE the World Cup???

    Argentina -Ireland : who will win? 71 votes

    Argentina , Ireland out
    0% 0 votes
    Ireland , Argentina out
    91% 65 votes
    Ireland , but Ireland out
    8% 6 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭carlowboy


    There has to have been a catch in the contract, ie a performance clause.


    I hope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    I hope and i really hope this is the end of his career. Oh Gatland please come back we regret what we did we truly do!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    dixiefly wrote:
    Most will say this is OTT but the World Cup has been really disappointing. We now need FOUR TRYS against Argentina!!!!

    Sack Eddie when we get home for the following reasons in no particular order
    1. No tactical plan.
    2. No Cutting edge
    3. Poor preparation coming up to the game
    4. Picking Andrew Trimble
    5. The alienation of Geordan Murphy
    6. Too predictable
    7. No imagination
    8. No alteration of players in early games to allow them get to know each other
    9. No development of fringe players

    +1

    And the extension before the World Cup was ludicrous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Forgive my ignorance but where the fcuk was Stringer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Hagar wrote:
    Forgive my ignorance but where the fcuk was Stringer?

    In the stand............


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    Hagar wrote:
    Forgive my ignorance but where the fcuk was Stringer?

    Dropped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Hagar wrote:
    Forgive my ignorance but where the fcuk was Stringer?
    Dropped. another reason to be added to the list for EoS to go.
    Gatland, we apologise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    Hagar wrote:
    Forgive my ignorance but where the fcuk was Stringer?

    Who cares Reddan beats his ass any day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭bugler


    Dropped. another reason to be added to the list for EoS to go.

    WTF? Reddan was very good. If you think Stringer would have made any difference you're dreaming. Let's not get nostalgic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭Wisesmurf


    injured or dropped, not sure. Thats the least of our concerns, Reddin actually had a good game.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    Celui que vous disiez...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭jimd2


    dixiefly wrote:
    Most will say this is OTT but the World Cup has been really disappointing. We now need FOUR TRYS against Argentina!!!!

    Sack Eddie when we get home for the following reasons in no particular order
    1. No tactical plan.
    2. No Cutting edge
    3. Poor preparation coming up to the game
    4. Picking Andrew Trimble
    5. The alienation of Geordan Murphy
    6. Too predictable
    7. No imagination
    8. No alteration of players in early games to allow them get to know each other
    9. No development of fringe players

    Also why oh why was he given an extension BEFORE the World Cup???

    Here here,
    Eddie had a crack at the ref on Newstalk!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭jimd2


    bugler wrote:
    WTF? Reddan was very good. If you think Stringer would have made any difference you're dreaming. Let's not get nostalgic.

    Reddan was great and Eddie was right to select him but this shouldnt have been his first game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    bugler wrote:
    WTF? Reddan was very good. If you think Stringer would have made any difference you're dreaming. Let's not get nostalgic.

    I really do think that nothing was lost by Stringer's absence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,725 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    I lambasted Chucky for comparing EOS to Stan after the 6 nations -- but he was spot on -- 2 muppets -- Trimble had a blinder , and his use of the bench defied logic -- if i was a senior player i'd push for him to be axed , hes doing nothing for them , just his greedy pockets


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    I think it was a change on a night when we need continiuity.
    Maybe the right change on the wrong night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Ok - Give me all the permutations and combinations - what do Ireland really need to do against the Argies to progress...................?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    I'm gonna go with: 1 miracle


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    crosstownk wrote:
    Ok - Give me all the permutations and combinations - what do Ireland really need to do against the Argies to progress...................?


    Score at least 4 tries AND beat Argentina by at least 7 points. Not going to happen unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    5 points with no bonus for the argie's.

    that simple.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭jimd2


    Bring in Murphy and Hickie.

    Drop Trimble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,303 ✭✭✭ongarite


    No scrap the EOS gameplan and play like Cheika lets them play for Leinster. Its the only way we can score the tries needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    obl wrote:
    I'm gonna go with: 1 miracle

    Hopefully the miracle will be realised - especially as I have tickets for the game :) But I reckon it will be a non-event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,303 ✭✭✭ongarite


    There has to be something wrong with O Gara in the head. He hasn't played well for Munster or Ireland in a few months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    ongarite wrote:
    No scrap the EOS gameplan and play like Cheika lets them play for Leinster. Its the only way we can score the tries needed.


    Kinda helps to have the ball first :rolleyes:

    Sorry but we dont have forwards to go for a Leinster game plan.

    Here can some Munster man please tell me this. Was Marcus Horan a winger when he was 12 and just ended up eating too many pies and ending up as a prop. Someone should kick him up the arse cause he still thinks he's a winger


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    A new team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,303 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Stev_o wrote:
    Here can some Munster man please tell me this. Was Marcus Horan a winger when he was 12 and just ended up eating too many pies and ending up as a prop. Someone should kick him up the arse cause he still thinks he's a winger

    Why was Horan trying a grubber kick to score in the forst half and then the man on the wing in the 2nd half with the overlap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭old boy


    fresh thinking, fresh legs, smells as stale and rank as bad cheese, we need a change of coach and especially a change of captain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭jimd2


    ongarite wrote:
    There has to be something wrong with O Gara in the head. He hasn't played well for Munster or Ireland in a few months.

    Last good game was against the Scots - did have a bad injury though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    threads merged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,303 ✭✭✭ongarite


    jimd2 wrote:
    Last good game was against the Scots - did have a bad injury though.

    Thats what Hook and Co. are saying basically. What happened to him again, he got crushed under a maul??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    Was stringer not dropped due to his sh!tness against Goergia?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 eamosthemighty


    give the man time 4 years ahead. like the soccer team we are re-building. eddies the man as well as stan for the soccer team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    RuggieBear wrote:
    threads merged.

    Fine - that's grand RB.

    I do think that O'Gara has had a poor RWC - his kicking has been less than satisfactory. I'm a big fan of O'Gara - he played great in the 6N, but the RWC seems to be escaping him, unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,303 ✭✭✭ongarite


    give the man time 4 years ahead. like the soccer team we are re-building. eddies the man as well as stan for the soccer team

    Sorry man thats BS. We have THE best team of players we will ever have for probably another ten years and EOS has blown it.
    Nice flaming first post BTW...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭jimd2


    Dempsey & Trimble were at fault for the second try.

    We need Murphy in especially to provide a bit of creativity.

    We will see if Eddie can put logic over ego and select him or the Argie game.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Drop Donncha, Trimble, Easterby, Girvan, and Horan. Bring in Malcolm, Hickie, Geordan and Alan Quinners. And someone else in the frontrow who isn't one of those annoying Best brothers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭keystone


    While I agree that EOS is a muppet and have done for a long time. He has played his 'best' team consistently and has blooded nobody new.

    However, the players must take some blame, O Gara (I await the Munster backlash here) is NOT world class. The fact is we have nothing else (well EOS doesn't provide anything else). Stringer for all his qualities is not good enough, he is not a Lion...need i say anymore. Reddan is the future for 3-4 years I hope. O Callaghan is too indisciplined, O Kelly is too old and slow....we are struggling at 2nd row at the minute.

    As for the front row, a definite force 2 years ago, they are just ageing now.

    On the positive side, we have players coming through, Reddan, Ian Humphreys, Neil Best.........the question is, have we any front rows or decent options at 2nd row (dont give me Cullen, Bob Casey as options)??

    Maybe we can perform a miricle, Munster have done it many a time in the Heineken Cup or am I clutching at straws!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    jimd2 wrote:

    We need Murphy in especially to provide a bit of creativity.

    We will see if Eddie can put logic over ego and select him or the Argie game.


    Well i can see Eddie saying this at the press conference "Yes i think really that Murphy.......................................................hasnt................well he didnt do well against France in the 6N.....................soo therefore it all adds up and is obvious when you think about it that he shouldnt play against Argentina"

    If he doesnt start him then my god that man has lost his mind altogether


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Morgans


    I cant see how Ireland can beat Argentina not to mind beat them by at least 7 scoring 4 tries.

    Struggling to score. No back line movement, No lineout. A Shambles.

    Hard not to see how EOS cannot be blamed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Morgans wrote:
    I cant see how Ireland can beat Argentina not to mind beat them by at least 7 scoring 4 tries.

    Unfortunately, I agree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,686 ✭✭✭EdgarAllenPoo


    EOS is safe as houses and he knows it, we'll have four more years of super conservative selections and poor use of the subs bench. Either he has to go or a lot of the squad has to go and it's easier to get rid of one man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭old boy


    its a 22 man game now, but eos recons its a 10 man game, players are stale, looks like the preperation drained them, they look and play like guys with a low blood count, a dose of iron tabs would not go astray, the ones pregnant women take


  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭jimd2


    Eddie had the cheek to say the the Ref blew us out of the water


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    We beat England by 4 tries at Croker, and let's be fair Argentina are no great shakes. They're certainly no South Africa or New Zealand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,151 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    4 tries against argentina forget it. they couldn't do it against Georgia's second team. i'm waiting for someone to say there is a great performance in this team and we're being overly negative:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,413 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    Changing one or 2 players isn't going to fix anything. I disagree with dixiefly on trimble, but everything else for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭keystone


    jayteecork wrote:
    We beat England by 4 tries at Croker, and let's be fair Argentina are no great shakes. They're certainly no South Africa or New Zealand.

    And we aren't the team of that day in Croker at the moment.

    Also, what would the Argies have done to that English side.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    why is everybody so fcuking negative!?they can do it and Eddie is an excellent coach!C'MON IRELAND!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    jayteecork wrote:
    We beat England by 4 tries at Croker, and let's be fair Argentina are no great shakes. They're certainly no South Africa or New Zealand.

    Hhahah oh god theres always one. Where have you been the last 2 weeks? Their the only side in our group that wants to progress and thats been reinforced on the pitch. Sorry but we arent going to win unless that whole side gets food poisoning or we buy the ref a huge gold watch.


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