FIFPro World XI Nominees

Peyton Manning

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A bit rubbish to be honest, too many players in there on merit only...

So what team would you pick?

Given it should be based on last seasons performances mostly, I would give it to:

Cech
Alves...Vidic...Nesta...Abidal
Ronaldo..Kaka..Essien..Seedorf
Totti...Drogba

It hurts me to leave out Messi, Ramos and Pirlo...

Mr. Presentable

Archimedes wrote:

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A bit rubbish to be honest, too many players in there on merit only...

So what team would you pick?

I presume you meant reputation

I'd agree with most of them as a shortlist, but a few stick out as absurd.

Dida
Van Der Sar
Ferdinand
Cannavaro
Maldini
Beckham
Makalele

Unless it is based on performance from 2003/4.

The real question has to be, where are the South American based players?

dardoz

thats more like the money list rather than the top players list

Peyton Manning

I dont think Beckham should be counted as absurd, he was amazing last season...

Inzaghi, Ashley Cole, Roberto Carlos, Deco and Henry dont deserve to be there either imo.

PHB

Dida was good, as was VDS last season. Ferdinand was fantastic last season, and Cannavaro wasn't half bad either. Maldini was injured for a lot, but was amazing in the CL. Beckham if anybody says he shouldn't be there is just talking absolute ****. If anybody watched him towards the end of lsat season, you'd realise just how absurd a statement that is. Makalele wasn't great last year, Cole wasn't great, anywhere near as good as he has been in the past. Henry was injured most of last year, so I don't understand why he's there.

Mr. Presentable

Archimedes wrote:

I dont think Beckham should be counted as absurd, he was amazing last season...

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http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma25634.htm

I wouldn't say 3 goals and 5 assists amaze me

Peyton Manning

I wouldnt say you watched any Madrid matches in that case.

PHB

nipplenuts wrote:

http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/rma25634.htm

I wouldn't say 3 goals and 5 assists amaze me

Sorry did you watch him at all? That statement is just absolutely ludicrous

Nalz

Archimedes wrote:

I dont think Beckham should be counted as absurd, he was amazing last season...

Inzaghi, Ashley Cole, Roberto Carlos, Deco and Henry dont deserve to be there either imo.

Exactly...none of them above with the exception of VDS. Id go for this

..............Cech....................
Alves...Vidic...Nesta...Abidal...
Messi..Kaka..Essien..Ronaldo...
........Berbatov...Drogba.........

herbieflowers

Beckham did some good things when he was played, but he was largely left out for most of the season

Mitch Connor

given that the voting won't result in a balanced team, and has to be 433, I would gues at the following.

Dida

Alves,
Vidic,
Nesta,
Ramos

Ronaldo
Seedorf
Kaka

Messi
Totti
Drogba

Nalz

PHB wrote:

Sorry did you watch him at all? That statement is just absolutely ludicrous

Beckham improved his form at Madrid vastly but it still doesnt warrant him a place here. Mind you, you could say that for alot of players. Paul Scholes was decent last season too but he shouldnt be on that list

herbieflowers

ooh-ee, I love these pointless football arguments! They just go around and around! Bliss!

estebancambias

This is always the same..pure crap. How is De Rossi or Cambiasso not on that list? Good to see Iniesta(who is amazing, better than Cesc) make it though.

LuckyLloyd

1) Beckham was regal last year. His last 8 - 10 games were genuinely astonishing.

2) Vidic starting at Centre - Half would be lolol.

Mitch Connor

Why would a centre back playing centre back be "lolol" (and could you explain what lolol means...)

LuckyLloyd

Tauren wrote:

Why would a centre back playing centre back be "lolol" (and could you explain what lolol means...)

laugh out loud - a lot.

By playing him at centre - half in this team, you would be insinuating that he was one of the two best players in the world at his position last season? lolol.

Peyton Manning

LuckyLloyd wrote:

laugh out loud - a lot.

By playing him at centre - half in this team, you would be insinuating that he was one of the two best players in the world at his position last season? lolol.

Oh the glorious joys of opinion.

Who do you rate higher last season as a matter of interest?

Zapp Brannigan

No Reina in the goalkeepers? Cech missed loads of last season. I can't see how he'd be included, whereas Reina (for the 2nd year running) got the Golden Gloves. Strange.

Mr. Presentable

LuckyLloyd wrote:

1) Beckham was regal last year. His last 8 - 10 games were genuinely astonishing.

2) Vidic starting at Centre - Half would be lolol.

Surely a season is more than 8-10 games. Look, I agree the end of season form of Beckham was great. But I'm sure many here can offer better alternatives for the list - over the season.

ciaran76

I am picking from the list. But I am shocked Reina isn't in there.

Dida

Abidal
Vidic
Chivu
Carvalho

Kaka
Seedorf
Essien
Ronaldo

Villa
Toni

Mitch Connor

LuckyLloyd wrote:

laugh out loud - a lot.

By playing him at centre - half in this team, you would be insinuating that he was one of the two best players in the world at his position last season? lolol.

so, it should be lola then....god damn i hate text speak.

Well, he was considered by most to be one of the two best centre backs in the premiership last season. there aren't many I would put above him, Nesta would be one but then....

DerekD Goldfish

Dida is barely the best keeper at milan cant stand the guy
winning the CL with him in goal was like a boxer winning the world title with one hand tied behind his back.
complete liability and has been the last 3 years or so

Pepe LeFrits

estebancambias wrote:

This is always the same..pure crap. How is De Rossi or Cambiasso not on that list? Good to see Iniesta(who is amazing, better than Cesc) make it though.

Yeah, keep beating that drum.

These things are always a load of crap, frankly.

stooge

Dont agree that Beckham should be on the list. he played a few half decent games near the end of last season. He started to do what he is best at - crossing the ball. for the two years previous he thought of himself as a centre midfielder and sulked when put on the wing. I watched most of his last few games for mardid and he was good but not outstanding. Doesnt make up for the crap games he played for most ofthe past 2 seasons.

A lot of the players are in that list because of their name, but its always he same when these things come out.

VDS was mediocre last season, dida wasnt any better. Makalele shouldnt be in the list. Cannavaro was brutal for Madrid last season and Maldini only played a handful of games.
m2c

LuckyLloyd

Archimedes wrote:

Who do you rate higher last season as a matter of interest?

Terry
Nesta
Carragher
Chivu

Tauren wrote:

Well, he was considered by most to be one of the two best centre backs in the premiership last season. there aren't many I would put above him, Nesta would be one but then...

What most people think is irrelevant. Nesta is an infinitely better player than Vidic.

Xavi6

How Abidal is on the list amazes me. And people have picked them in their XI! He's shocking and only just marginally above Djimi Traore in terms of ability. Carlos and Makelele shouldn't be there either. Oh and don't get me started on Seedorf. That guy just frustrates me everytime I watch Milan play. He's just so damn lazy.

As for my team, I'd have -

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Buffon

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Chivu

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Cannavaro

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Nesta

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Xavi

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Pirlo

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Ronaldo

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Kaka

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Messi----

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Drogba

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Totti

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Jazzy

Cech

Vidic
Ramos
Alves
Ayala

Kaka
Essien
C. Ronaldo

Drogba
Totti
Ronaldinho

AngelofFire

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Van De Sar

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Alves

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Puyol

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Cannavaro

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Lahm----

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Iniesta

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Essien

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Gerrard

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Kaka

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Messi

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Eto'o

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kinaldo

Capello publicly stated early on last season that Beckham would not play for Madrid again. At the Christmas break Madrid lost 3 out of 4 games and Capello was to get the sack if they failed to win the next. Capello caved to public opinion and did a u-turn. Beckham was recalled and low and behold went on to score a great free-kick that ultimately kept Capello in his job and won them the title. Madrid's run of 9 wins in their last 10 games was largely down to the inspirational form of Beckham and I must have watched all of them. "Cup Finals" they were billed as by Capello.

If you also take into account the parallels at international level then I think it's fair to say Beckham had a remarkable season, and Madrid would not have won the league without him or even come close.

The fans in Madrid are as unforgiving and as fickle as any, so the hero's ovation they afforded him and esteem they held him in during his 4 years there should say a lot to the sceptics who always doubt his ability.

Mitch Connor

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Terry
Nesta
Carragher
Chivu



What most people think is irrelevant. Nesta is an infinitely better player than Vidic.

Terry missed a decent chuink of last season, and wasn't at his best for some of it too. On top form terry is better, Last season Terry wasn't on top form and Vidic was, Vidic had a better season imo. I'd certainly rate him over Chivu and Carragher too. As for nesta, I already said he was better so what the hell is your point with that one?

Seaneh

AngelofFire wrote:

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Van De Sar

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Alves

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Puyol

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Cannavaro

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Lahm----

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Iniesta

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Essien

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Gerrard

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Kaka

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Messi

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Eto'o

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Your centre backs are both under 6 foot, both slow and one of them just had the worst season of his entire career.

gustavo

DerekD Goldfish wrote:

Dida is barely the best keeper at milan cant stand the guy
winning the CL with him in goal was like a boxer winning the world title with one hand tied behind his back.
complete liability and has been the last 3 years or so

Rubbish , I've said it on other forums but Dida is a fine goalkeeper one of the best around

Seaneh

Dida is fairly savage lads, out of interest, how many of you rate seedorf?
Seems to me most PL fans think he is "Sh!te, past it, waste of space" fact is he is one of milans most important players.

Same goes for dida, he has the odd bad game, but no more than Lehman, Van Der Saar, Valdes or Iker.

Even Shay Given has bad games lads.

arbeitsscheuer

From the List:

Casillas

Zambrotta
Nesta
Ramos
Chivu

C.Ronaldo
Seedorf
Kaka

Ronaldinho
Drogba
Van Nistelrooy

weemcd

arbeitsscheuer wrote:

From the List:

Casillas

Zambrotta
Nesta
Ramos
Chivu

C.Ronaldo
Seedorf
Kaka

Ronaldinho
Drogba
Van Nistelrooy

im with you on that one!

Xavi6

Seaneh wrote:

Dida is fairly savage lads, out of interest, how many of you rate seedorf?
Seems to me most PL fans think he is "Sh!te, past it, waste of space" fact is he is one of milans most important players.

As I already stated in an earlier post I can't stand him. He's a bluffer. Certainly he has ability, no denying that, but he uses it for maybe 5 of the 90 minutes in a game. He's unbelievably lazy, plays some woeful passes, doesn't help his left back when playing wide and is generally completely overrated.

Seaneh

Clarence Seedorf is one of the hearest working midefielders on the planet, he routinely covers over 11k a match.

Is a great passer of the ball, scores his fair share a year, covers back a LOT.

The last 5 games of last years CL he was playing just behind Kaka and Inzaghi/Gila as an advanced attacking midfeilder, and was a beast, before that he played on the left of a 3 man midfeild , just ahead of gattauso and pirlo.

This isn't CM, this is rel life, he isn't a left winger, he is just the left sided centre mid.

Xavi6

Seaneh wrote:

Clarence Seedorf is one of the hearest working midefielders on the planet, he routinely covers over 11k a match.

Covers most of it by walking/jogging slowly.

Seaneh wrote:

Is a great passer of the ball, scores his fair share a year

Yeah he passes the ball well and scores goals when he tries which is, as I said, for 5 of every 90 mins.

Seaneh wrote:

This isn't CM, this is rel life, he isn't a left winger, he is just the left sided centre mid.

Yes and in real life he's a lazy player. Maybe he's just past it fitness wise but I can't stand watching him no matter how much you try defend him.

LuckyLloyd

Seedorf is the Business.

DSB

Xavi6 wrote:

Covers most of it by walking/jogging slowly.

Oh god.

Melion

I love United fans who bang on about Vidic and Ferdinand being 2 of the best centre halves in the world. Neither of them are even close to the top 10 in the world

Nunu

Melion wrote:

I love United fans who bang on about Vidic and Ferdinand being 2 of the best centre halves in the world. Neither of them are even close to the top 10 in the world

Both are definitely world class...not sure where I'd rate them overall, but easily among the best out there!

Out of interest, what say 20 or more centre halves do you think are much better than both of them?

Melion

Nunu wrote:

Both are definetly World Class...not sure where I'd rate them overall, but easily among the best out there!

Out of interest, what 20 or more centre halves do you think are much better than both of them?

Ferdinand is far from world class, Vidic might be in 2-3 years if he keeps playing consistently.

As for better centre halves:

Terry
Puyol
Sergio Ramos
Cannavaro
Nesta
Carragher
Kolo Toure
Carvalho(even though i hate him)
Nesta
Lucio
Mexes
Milito

Nunu

Ye thats a good list alright but you had to include Nesta twice;)

Vidic and Ferdinand just as good as most of them. I'd have only Nesta, Terry and Carvalho(just about) as better than them.

edit: incidently I rate Ferdinand higher than Vidic.

Melion

Nunu wrote:

Ye thats a good list alright but you had to include Nesta twice;)

Vidic and Ferdinand just as good as most of them. I'd have only Nesta, Terry and Carvalho(just about) as better than them.

Oh, thats just how good he is

I just dont rate Ferdinand at all. He just doesnt have the heart that the majority of the defenders i mentioned do. He's good and stylish on the ball but he wouldnt put his body on the line which i like centre halves to do.

Vidic will be up there as i said, IMO he just needs another season or 2 as good as he had last year

Xavi6

DSB wrote:

Oh god.

You seriously telling me he works his bo**ox off for 90 minutes? He's a good player but lazy and I don't like lazy players, hence my disliking of Seedorf.

Seaneh

Lazy my hole.
To cover 11k in 90 mibnutes you'd have to be running constantly.

his tackles per game rate and interceptions per game rate are as high as ambrosini's! the man is a beast.

Rikand

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Seedorf is the Business.

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Peyton Manning

Xavi6, did you actually do any research on your claims that Seedorf is ****e? Because nearly every stat out there indicates that you couldnt be more wrong...

eirebhoy

Seedorf's really underrated. You need to really watch him in a match. If you're just watching it down in the pub as a nuetral you might think the game has passed him by. It's the same for my well known favourite player but when you actually watch him solely, on and off the ball, you realise what he offers.