Ban Irelands Call.

Terry

eolhc wrote:

irelands call, has become part of the irish identity and is at the heart of irish rugby, its a bit of an embarrassing song, but it sacred now, and will forever be played before irish rugby matches, people who don't like it being played should be ashamed of themselves and should say ten amhran na bhfianns as penance

LMAO.

Jeapy

AlmightyCushion wrote:

Actually screw that. I'm with the OP lets ban Irelands call. Lets play the banana phone song instead.

Altogether now...ring ring ring ring bananafoooooone!

randylonghorn

MYOB wrote:

Both. Both anthems are played at games played in the Republic, only Ireland's Call is played at "home" games in the North (all two of them in 50 years..)

Ah, thanks, MYOB.

randylonghorn wrote:

I missed that one! Someone linkeh, quick!!!!11!!11 :rolleyes:

Terry wrote:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055150581

I'd say "spot the sarcasm, Terry", except I know damn well you did!

Capt'n Midnight

ban it, it's not distinctive or inspiring, it's too "safe"

It's not like we haven't any other tunes

Instead of singing a soldiers song how about singing about it ?

We're on the one road
Sharing the one load
We're on the road to God knows where
We're on the one road
It may be the wrong road
But we're together now who cares
North men, South men, comrades all
Dublin, Belfast, Cork and Donegal
We're on the one road swinging along
Singing a soldier's song

Maybe drop a few lines

Mr.Nice Guy

We should use 'The Boys are Back in Town' by Thin Lizzy.

robinph

randylonghorn wrote:

I think you're right, not sure ... I have a vague memory that they have played Amhrán na bhFiann when matches are played in the Republic ... as the anthem of the host nation ... followed by Ireland's Call as the sporting anthem of the actual team (and of course the anthem of the opposing team as well).

Which if they play England games in Belfast give the fantastic option of them playing GSTQ followed by Irelands Call for the Irish team and then GTSQ. I think that the After Hours server would expolde if such a situation were to occur with all the outrage.

Shame they didn't move the 6 Nations games to Belfast rather than Croke Park really.

AlmightyCushion

How about playing he song that tops the charts that week. It will reflect what the people of Ireland are actually listening to.

randylonghorn

robinph wrote:

Which if they play England games in Belfast give the fantastic option of them playing GSTQ followed by Irelands Call for the Irish team and then GTSQ. I think that the After Hours server would expolde if such a situation were to occur with all the outrage.

Hadn't thought of that ... would be wierd, irritating and kind of funny all at the same time, all right!

leninbenjamin

i think we should rob la marseillaise, now there's a good anthem.

seriously though, Phil Coulter should be exiled for the abomination that is Ireland's Call. in fact I'd rather see him hung drawn and quartered with each quarter encased in a box with walls of lead one foot thick and sent to a different continent so he'll never ever be able to commit such an atrocious act of composition again but then we do have some of those soft and fluffy type here who are against the death penalty...

tonymontana

I think it should be banned. Other sports such as equestrian and boxing which represent the whole of Ireland have no problem with our national anthem. I would rather hear Amhran na bhFiann and the Northern anthem played together then that piece of crap they call an anthem.

The goverment should not really allow it, no other country in the world would.

robinph

tonymontana wrote:

Other sports such as equestrian and boxing which represent the whole of Ireland have no problem with our national anthem.

There is no island of Ireland teams for those sports, its just some people from NI choose to represent the Republic and some choose to represent the UK.

lezizi

This is why Micheal Collins shouldn't have signed that Treaty.

Capt'n Midnight

lezizi wrote:

This is why Micheal Collins shouldn't have signed that Treaty.

:rolleyes:

Everyone knows if he hadn't been assassinated he would probably have got the six counties back. I blame Dev for a lot. Though he isn't responsible for "ireland's call" he should take a lot of the blame for permenant partition.

AlmightyCushion

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

:rolleyes:

Everyone knows if he hadn't been assassinated he would probably have got the six counties back. I blame Dev for a lot. Though he isn't responsible for "ireland's call" he should take a lot of the blame for permenant partition.

Please Dev? This is clearly all ecksors fault.

eoin5

Irelands call always reminds me of seargent bilco for some reason. Thats not a bad thing but I doubt thats its intended purpose

Mint Sauce

tbh, i like the patrioism of irelands call, and do sing along, but have really missed Amhran na bhFiann being played, what i dont get is that flag, but then thats for a totally new thread

<run's off to think up new thread>

magick

in a Democracy the majority rule, and i bet a majority of people would want our National anthem not Irelands call.

But oh no the PC people will be up in arms "its not the anthem of the north blah blah"

In that case we should have an anthem that has nothing to do with Ireland, in case the PC people get upset with that too.

Yet another case where a minority of people enforce their will on a majority, and thats as undemocratic as it gets. :mad:

robinph

irish-stew wrote:

tbh, i like the patrioism of irelands call, and do sing along, but have really missed Amhran na bhFiann being played, what i dont get is that flag, but then thats for a totally new thread

<run's off to think up new thread>

That flag is there for exactly the same reasons as they are playing Ireland Call, the team is not representing the Republic of Ireland.

randylonghorn

magick wrote:

in a Democracy the majority rule, and i bet a majority of people would want our National anthem not Irelands call.

But oh no the PC people will be up in arms "its not the anthem of the north blah blah"

In that case we should have an anthem that has nothing to do with Ireland, in case the PC people get upset with that too.

Yet another case where a minority of people enforce their will on a majority, and thats as undemocratic as it gets. :mad:

Well, we're actually talking about two democracies here ... possibly the majority of the people in the Republic would vote for Amhrán na bhFiann, though I wouldn't be at all sure in these circumstances, but I would guarantee the majority of the people in Northern Ireland would not vote for it, so where does that leave your argument?

Sometimes democracy is about coming up with a workable compromise that pisses nobody off too much, and, insofar as possible, pisses everyone off equally.

Ireland's Call probably fits that description fairly well!

Mint Sauce

robinph wrote:

That flag is there for exactly the same reasons as they are playing Ireland Call, the team is not representing the Republic of Ireland.

but then their not representing the republic in dublin either, they just happen to be playin there

Capt'n Midnight

AlmightyCushion wrote:

Please Dev? This is clearly all ecksors fault.

And just who do you think was ecksor's grandfather ???

Terry

randylonghorn wrote:

Well, we're actually talking about two democracies here ... possibly the majority of the people in the Republic would vote for Amhrán na bhFiann, though I wouldn't be at all sure in these circumstances, but I would guarantee the majority of the people in Northern Ireland would not vote for it, so where does that leave your argument?

Sometimes democracy is about coming up with a workable compromise that pisses nobody off too much, and, insofar as possible, pisses everyone off equally.

Ireland's Call probably fits that description fairly well!

You could work it on percentages.

Ruen

DaveMcG wrote:

Play 'Londonderry Air' instead, how about that?

Nah that's shíte, Amhrán Na bhFiann is much better and most people would prefer it.

JC 2K3

Amhrán na bhFiann is a song which represents the politcal reality a 26 county Ireland.
Ireland's Call is a song that represents a the ideal of a 32 county Ireland.

Which is closer to what Republicans want?

cmoney

i think we should come up with a totally new anthem.... we could call it "God Save Amhrán na bhFiann"

AlmightyCushion

Why don't we get some dj to do a remix of Amhrán na bhFiann and God save the queen?

Ghost Train

AlmightyCushion wrote:

Why don't we get some dj to do a remix of Amhrán na bhFiann and God save the queen?

sounds like a plan

robinph

irish-stew wrote:

but then their not representing the republic in dublin either, they just happen to be playin there

Exactly.

Dave!

Ruen wrote:

Nah that's shíte, Amhrán Na bhFiann is much better and most people would prefer it.

Probably. But then you'd probably end up with the nordies calling for a Northern Ireland rugby team, and I personally prefer it the way it is.

I don't really mind Ireland's Call btw...

Terry

JC 2K3 wrote:

Amhrán na bhFiann is a song which represents the politcal reality a 26 county Ireland.
Ireland's Call is a song that represents a the ideal of a 32 county Ireland.

Which is closer to what Republicans want?

What's wrong with Republicans?

Dave!

Terry wrote:

What's wrong with Republicans?

He didn't say there was anything wrong with Republicans. What are you on?

JC 2K3

Where did I say there was anything wrong with them? They support a united Ireland. The Irish rugby team realises this on a non-political level. Amhrán na bhFiann is a song of a 26 county Ireland, yet most Republicans seem to want it played rather than Ireland's Call(which might be a shíte song, but represents a 32 county ideal nonetheless).

chucks

Im embarrassed for my country when I hear Irelands Call. I used to be able to get over it when our anthem was also played but not now

The reasons for it being played do make sense, represnting both states etc

Either play both our anthems, or come up with a new song in place of that cringeworthy crap. People wonder where our teams passion have gone....

Also get rid of that stupid flag while we're at it. Id happily see them walk out to both our tricolour and the Northern flag instead

Puck

English translation of the National Anthem:

Soldiers are we
Whose lives are pledged to Ireland
Some have come
From a land beyond the wave
Sworn to be free
No more our ancient sire land
Shall shelter the despot or the slave
Tonight we man the gap of danger
In Erin's cause, in death or life
'Mid cannon's roar and rifles' peal
We'll chant a soldier's song

I have a problem with that. I'm not a soldier, I do not wish to be one and my life is not pledged to Ireland. How can I sing along to that in good conscience? Ireland's Call might be crap but so is Amhrán na bhFiann.

mahamageehad

How many people out there actually know the words to Amhran na bhfiann?? at least with irelands call people can actually sing along

JC 2K3

Puck wrote:

English translation of the National Anthem:
Soldiers are we
Whose lives are pledged to Ireland
Some have come
From a land beyond the wave
Sworn to be free
No more our ancient sire land
Shall shelter the despot or the slave
Tonight we man the gap of danger
In Erin's cause, in death or life
'Mid cannon's roar and rifles' peal
We'll chant a soldier's song

Actually, that's not a translation at all, it's the original version.

Puck

Ah excuse me, copied the wrong column of text. The soldier thing stands though.

philstar

AnB is the anthem for the republic, not the island of ireland.

When the irish rugby team play in the republic they play AnB, when they play away they play irelands call.

Thats a fair arrangement i think

ryanairzer

I like Canada's theme better. Let's use that.

zuutroy

Irelands Call for new National Anthem...Great stuff...

ejmaztec

it can only be "Don't Cry For Me Argentina":D

philstar

ah go on, will ya sing the feckin song...trust me it grows on you after a while

altogether now 1 2 3...

Come the day and come the hour
Come the power and the glory
We have come to answer
Our Country's call
From the four proud provinces of Ireland
Chorus

Ireland, Ireland,
Together standing tall
Shoulder to shoulder
We'll answer Ireland's call
2

From the mighty Glens of Antrim
From the rugged hills of Galway
From the walls of Limerick
And Dublin Bay
From the four proud provinces of Ireland
(Chorus)
3

Hearts of steel
And heads unbowing
Vowing never to be broken
We will fight, until
We can fight no more
For the four proud provinces of Ireland
(Chorus)

robinph

chucks wrote:

Either play both our anthems

Well that would be God Save the Queen and Amhrán na bhFiann then. But I'd guess you'd have more of a problem with that combination so...

chucks wrote:

or come up with a new song in place of that cringeworthy crap.

...they came up with Irelands Call instead and they only get to play Amhrán na bhFiann at home games because otherwise all the anthems would end up taking too long.

The only way that Ireland will get to do Amhrán na bhFiann at away games as well is if they can convice the IRB that it is supposed to be done as a Haka, otherwise they are stuck with playing the one tune for both the countries that are being represented.

thebman

DaveMcG wrote:

Probably. But then you'd probably end up with the nordies calling for a Northern Ireland rugby team, and I personally prefer it the way it is.

I don't really mind Ireland's Call btw...

Let them! I'd love to see how well they do. They play for Ireland which everyone associates with the Republic anyway (just ask any yank or basically anyone not from Ireland) and they know what people think so the players realise they are basically playing for Ireland.

philstar wrote:

Come the day and come the hour
Come the power and the glory
We have come to answer
Our Country's call
From the four proud provinces of Ireland
Chorus

That use of the word country should piss them off since they aren't playing for the country of Ireland but the island of Ireland. We must get rid of this song now! Who's with me?

For the record, it doesn't bother me that much that we don't play the national anthem (I can just about remember the words from learning it in primary school) but I despise Ireland's Call.

ryanairzer

Fergalicious would make a good anthem

MooseJam

whats norn irons anthem ?

ryanairzer

MooseJam wrote:

whats norn irons anthem ?

God save the queen is it not?

Well either that or Fergalicious.

leninbenjamin

MooseJam wrote:

whats norn irons anthem ?

God Save the Queen isn't it?

randylonghorn

leninbenjamin wrote:

God Save the Queen isn't it?

That would be the official anthem, as in the rest of the UK. They play Londonderry Air as the rugby anthem, afair.

ryanairzer

randylonghorn wrote:

That would be the official anthem, as in the rest of the UK. They play Londonderry Air as the rugby anthem, afair.

That sounds shíte, they should def use Fergalicious.