Not fair ESB bill split...

marinchik

Hi everyone,

Just want someones else opinion on this. I share house with other 2 lads, with one of them i live in that house for a couple years now, but other one just moved in 3 month ago.
The problem is recently we received an ESB bill for €500!! when usually we would pay €200, and our agency explained that there were no meter readings for a long time from our meter box so we were underpaying so thats why so much this time. Now i have no problem to pay this, but other mate refuses to pay saying that he doesn't use as much electricity as us!! We paid last bill just between 2 of us, but i was just wondering were we wrong? Should've we get him to pay 1/3 of it?
And plus now i'm after ordering heating oil and he saying he has no money to pay for it now but he will later, but the thing is he is going on hols next month and for some reason he has money for that though.. I don't like his attitude, but maybe i'm wrong?

Any thoughts?

Thanks a mill,

BoozyBabe

Of course the bill should be split 3 ways!!!
Who goes round totting up how much electricity they use????
One kettle boiled, 2 slices of toast made, 1 bulb on for 15 minutes, etc.....
It's ridiculous.
He uses electricity, he pays for it. Simple.
If he wants to be all eco friendly, & thinks he can live without electricity, tell him to pitch a tent in the back garden.
If he doesn't like it, tell him to ship out!

As the the heating. Again, he should pay, but this may be harder to get of him, as he could live without heating.
But again, in the winter, instead of sitting in his freezing cold room, I'd imagine he'll sit in the sittingroom, which is nice & cosy heated from the oil you've paid for.
TBH, if he's whinging over basics like these, you'd be better with someone else.

bill_ashmount

He looks like he is going to be trouble. Get rid of him if you can.

Noelie

The bills should be split three ways, but the additional owed I'm not sure about that, If he has only been living with you for 3 months I don't think he should have to pay what is owed. You'd need to look at the bills an try figure out how much of the new bill is backdated then the back dated amount should be split two ways.

But going forward it has to be split threeways. next he'll be saying he wants his rent reduced cause he doesn't use the back garden or the hotpress.

How Strange

OP, I agree with Noelie. If the guy has been living there for 3 months and the bills are usually €200 then you can't expect him to pay the extra €300 which goes back to the last meter reading which could've been done over a year ago.

I think you'll have to cut your loses on that one. But apart from that all the bills should be split three ways.

In a place I lived in we used to take charge of a bill each and then every two months work out how much each person owes because sometimes one person might be too broke one month to pay the esb but the next month they would have money again. Y

He has to commit to paying the heating when he gets paid again regardless of whether or not he's going on holidays.

If there is any more trouble re paying bills (€300 balance on ESB aside) I would consider asking him to leave. He sounds like a scrounger and you don't want to get landed with his bills.

marinchik

Thank you all for your replies,

We didn't expected him to pay for what ever we underpaid prior him moving in, but he refuses to pay even that bit he actually owes for the past month, saying that he used electricity for about €10 thats all!!! I couldn't help myself but just tell him where he can stick that money!!
i undersatand sometimes people can be broke thats why i'm paying for heating myself now and he will give his share to me later, but he said that we ordered too early its still warm outside and stuff... so its like my fault i have to pay for it now only myself!!!
Anyway we do consider asking him to move out, it just not working out for us, i mean i shared a house before with different people, and never have I had such a problem.

Thanks again

eth0_

Definitely ask him to move out, he'll just continue trying to pay less than the others in the house.

Why the fsck do people think they can act like this when sharing a house?

the_syco

marinchik wrote:

i undersatand sometimes people can be broke thats why i'm paying for heating myself now and he will give his share to me later, but he said that we ordered too early its still warm outside and stuff... so its like my fault i have to pay for it now only myself!!!

Have fun with that. If he doesn't pay the bills, kick him.

Duiske

eth0_ wrote:

Definitely ask him to move out, he'll just continue trying to pay less than the others in the house.

Why the fsck do people think they can act like this when sharing a house?

We had a guy like this in Maynooth a few years back. Always moaning about being broke, could not afford bills etc etc. He even said he would not pay for oil because he did not mind the cold !! Was a few weeks later we caught the tight fcuker with an electric heater in his room. He was gone that night .

Dalfiatach

marinchik wrote:

but he refuses to pay even that bit he actually owes for the past month, saying that he used electricity for about €10 thats all!

Does he have any idea how much lecky costs these days? In the last few years the cost of the ESB has gone through the roof. Tell him unless he can come up with a plausible list of reasons why he thinks he is using much less electricity than the other 2, then he pays 1/3, end of story, house rules, if he doesn't like it he can leave.

marinchik wrote:

thats why i'm paying for heating myself now and he will give his share to me later, but he said that we ordered too early its still warm outside and stuff.

What a tool. Everybody knows the heating oil companies stick a few sly cents on every litre as soon as the first frost happens, because that's when every numpty in the country phones up demanding oil deliveries. The best time to stock up for the winter is early September when nobody else is buying. Simple supply and demand. Buying it too early indeed :rolleyes:

He sounds a right eejit. Get rid of him or you'll have endless trouble.

ronbyrne2005

What if there are two people sharing an apartment, one works a lot and socialises a lot and uses little electricity.the other stays in the house most of time watching his plasma telly , playing computer games and likes to have the heating uo high, Should the person who is rarely home and clearly uses little electricity pay half? The guy mentioned by OP seems a bit extreme but if one person clearly uses a lot less of anything should they not pay less?

Rob_l

Duiske_Lad wrote:

We had a guy like this in Maynooth a few years back. Always moaning about being broke, could not afford bills etc etc. He even said he would not pay for oil because he did not mind the cold !! Was a few weeks later we caught the tight fcuker with an electric heater in his room. He was gone that night .

damn electircla heaters we had that problem before lece bills jumped couldn't figure why


electricla heaters are a massive drain

marinchik

ronbyrne2005 wrote:

What if there are two people sharing an apartment, one works a lot and socialises a lot and uses little electricity.the other stays in the house most of time watching his plasma telly , playing computer games and likes to have the heating uo high, Should the person who is rarely home and clearly uses little electricity pay half? The guy mentioned by OP seems a bit extreme but if one person clearly uses a lot less of anything should they not pay less?

I used to live in exactly the same situation, i was berely home, almost never watched tv cos i was to tired and would go straight to bed, on other hand my flatmate would turn the heat up and leav it for the whole day on, used washing mashine every day for one 2 items, and I still would pay half of all bills!! i didn't see anything wrong with that, like if someone does think its wrong they should then live alone or with likeminded or something...

mickoneill30

ronbyrne2005 wrote:

What if there are two people sharing an apartment, one works a lot and socialises a lot and uses little electricity.the other stays in the house most of time watching his plasma telly , playing computer games and likes to have the heating uo high, Should the person who is rarely home and clearly uses little electricity pay half? The guy mentioned by OP seems a bit extreme but if one person clearly uses a lot less of anything should they not pay less?

Generally you set the rules when you move in together. If situations change you can sit down and discuss it and come to some agreement if it's fair. You wouldn't just say ah well I've only used €10 of electricity this month so that's what I'm paying. That won't work and will only annoy the other people.

To the OP, I'd ask him to move out. I used to look after the bills in a place I stayed. My flatmates didn't care about bills and were always late. I ended up subsidising as if I let them lapse for too long we had to pay reconnection fees. This got on my nerves and luckily enough a room opened up in a mates apartment so I paid what I owed and moved out.