Put simple.

Zillah

estebancambias wrote:

But God is all powerful.
Time is nothing, as God is the creator of time.

Time is actually a property of the universe, so there is no "before" the universe. If God can escape the flow of cause and effect then why can't existence as a whole?

Here, that guy should be banned for life, he posted my information on here, without my consent.

Actually by posting it on MySpace/Bebo you made it publicly available. Haha, welcome to teh intornet.

stevejazzx

estebancambias wrote:

Just so it's straight, we have evolved but through God's plan, it's natural selection which is bull****.

The above makes no sense to me.
Did you leave out the word 'not'? As in {it's not natural selction which is bull****}
The phrase 'we have evolved through God's plan' is meaningless. You are simply guessing that first there is a God and secondly we evolved though a plan he made for us. The phrase 'evolved through a plan' is also quite vague and utterly meaningless, are you implying it metaphorically? I mean you've yet to post a single coherent idea.
There was a post advising not to feed the troll a while back but I just couldn't help it...

Dave!

Zillah wrote:

And that.

fapfapfapfapfapfapfapfap......


este, why are you wasting your time like this? Shouldn't you be looking for a new job or somethin? Or did you decide to stay at Spar?

estebancambias

Ha, yeah..I'm still deciding on what to do. I find that talking randomly about evolution provides me with some sort of escape.

Zillah

estebancambias wrote:

Ha, yeah..I'm still deciding on what to do. I find that talking randomly about evolution provides me with some sort of escape.

Randomly is right.

Naikon

estebancambias wrote:

But God is all powerful.

I thought you were sitebanned:mad:
Honestly, do you not accept the very plausible possibility that a biological machine working on electrical impulses, and which also evolved from single cell organisms, ceases to exist after death?

aidan24326

estebancambias wrote:

.Oh, and I was once a member of SF, but they were ****ing idiots.

In all honesty esteban you should have felt right at home amongst idiots. Almost everything you've posted here would put you squarely in that category. You can't expect to be taken seriously when you're unable to form so much as a semi-coherent post. This thread could run for 20 pages and no-one would be any the wiser as to what the hell you're on about.

edit: if you're not an idiot then prove it by engaging in reasonable debate rather than just ranting and posting random bits of opinion in a preaching way.

Beruthiel

estebancambias wrote:

Surely I'm free to say what I want, after all you love your free speach.

This is a privately owned site and you most certainly do not have free speech.
Now before you get yourself in more trouble with this site, I suggest you think first before making anymore comments.
B

cavedave

Come on if your son/daughter was born with a handicap, after you talked about natural selection, would you not be slightly ticked that your sperm produced this?

Wasn't Darwin married to his first cousin? That level of inbreeding makes disability quite likely in any offspring does it not?

I have not noticed the people here being politically liberal. I would be interested to see where they scored on the http://politicalcompass.org/ quiz.
I came out as a mildly market forces extreme libertarian which is not a liberal.

Ciaran500

cavedave wrote:

I have not noticed the people here being politically liberal. I would be interested to see where they scored on the http://politicalcompass.org/ quiz.
I came out as a mildly market forces extreme libertarian which is not a liberal.

Beruthiel

I'm more of a lefty libertarian than Gandi apparently

Fallen Seraph

Also, it would seem that I'm also a lefty libertarian, scoring thusly :
Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33

Dades

Grr! I really hate it when I miss feeding time!



(Thread running out of time btw)

PDN

Glad to assist in hijacking this thread from the odious troll.

I'm a left-wing libertarian. In fact I score exactly the same as one of my heroes, Nelson Mandela.

Scofflaw

The Atheist wrote:

I find that alarmingly hilarious, perhaps particularly so in an atheist forum.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Rev Hellfire

I'm a nice middle of the road.

cavedave

God everyone here is a complete pinko :rolleyes:

I think this is an interesting question. Most people on boards seems to be bottom left and the atheists here generally seem to fit in that section. I would class bottom left as being liberal.

It is interesting to see how far most people seem to be from the parties that are voted for. http://politicalcompass.org/ireland

You do not have to be in this section to be an atheist. Ayn Rand was probably on the furthest bottom right you could get.

Playboy: "Has no religion, in your estimation, ever offered anything of constructive value to human life?"
Ayn Rand: "Qua religion, no—in the sense of blind belief, belief unsupported by, or contrary to, the facts of reality and the conclusions of reason. Faith, as such, is extremely detrimental to human life: it is the negation of reason. But you must remember that religion is an early form of philosophy, that the first attempts to explain the universe, to give a coherent frame of reference to man's life and a code of moral values, were made by religion, before men graduated or developed enough to have philosophy."

pH

Hey it's not the atheists fapping to Darwin porn ... it's the IDers who are making the stuff (badly). How can I fap to that?


http://craptaculus.com/eac/ID/publications.shtml

Scofflaw

cavedave wrote:

God everyone here is a complete pinko :rolleyes:

I think this is an interesting question. Most people on boards seems to be bottom left and the atheists here generally seem to fit in that section. I would class bottom left as being liberal.

It is interesting to see how far most people seem to be from the parties that are voted for. http://politicalcompass.org/ireland

You do not have to be in this section to be an atheist. Ayn Rand was probably on the furthest bottom right you could get.

True - you could even find atheists in the authoritarian quadrants, although they would usually be communists. Right-wing authoritarian atheists seem improbable.

Personally:
Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

Although I become more right-wing as the day wears on. I have a particular dislike of being oppressed in the morning, and also a stronger preference for other people sharing nice things with me. I find I am not so much in favour of "standing on your own two feet" until I am actually ready to do so.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Hivemind187

Blimey! I'm to the left and more libertarian than GHANDI :eek: ... quite chuffed with that actually

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59

5uspect

Nooooooo!!! I'm a dirty liberal!

Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15
http://politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-2.75&soc=-6.15

cavedave

True - you could even find atheists in the authoritarian quadrants, although they would usually be communists. Right-wing authoritarian atheists seem improbable.

A Market forces authoritarian atheist.
So we are looking for someone who wants to organise peoples private lives while getting them to decide for themselves what they want to spend their earnings on. Who is an atheist.
B.f Skinner is the only famous person I can think of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner
but i could be misinterpreting his views.

Doctor DooM

Hivemind187 wrote:

Blimey! I'm to the left and more libertarian than GHANDI :eek: ... quite chuffed with that actually

you and I both. We should start a wrestling tag team called the Super Ghandi brothers.

Hivemind187

SDooM wrote:

you and I both. We should start a wrestling tag team called the Super Ghandi brothers.

Lol, who wears the glasses and who gets the nappy?

Doctor DooM

Hivemind187 wrote:

Lol, who wears the glasses and who gets the nappy?

I would be proud to wear Ghandi's nappy!









(I cannot believe I just said that)

Hivemind187

SDooM wrote:

I would be proud to wear Ghandi's nappy!
(I cannot believe I just said that)

+1 for your new signature.

Doctor DooM

Your wish...

Hivemind187

Sweet!

estebancambias

I guess me and Mamoud Abbas have a bit in common.

estebancambias

Oh, by the way this was never a thread in which I was going to get involved with the whole God, or lack of debate. I'm not going to waste your time, as I am close-minded. There is a God, end of.

However, you answered my question, and it appears I was wrong, you are happy with your status as liberals.

No surprises there

cavedave

Oh, by the way this was never a thread in which I was going to get involved with the whole God, or lack of debate. I'm not going to waste your time, as I am close-minded. There is a God, end of.

I wonder what gods politicalcompass would be?
In the old testament he seems to be a market forces authoritarian. The Torah is full of advice on how to run business and he definetely was fond of the smack down.
Jesus seems to a lefty liberal does he not? I guess buddha would be somewhere similar. God gives us stuff for free so he is not a market forces kind of guy....

you are happy with your status as liberals.

If i was not holed up in my underground bunker polishing my gun collection waiting for the government to attack you might have a point.

Wacker

SDooM wrote:

tro- diddley ooll!

This guy isn't a troll, in my opinion. He is just a total moron.

Dades

cavedave wrote:

God gives us stuff for free so he is not a market forces kind of guy.

He does own a lot of property around the world though.

Wacker wrote:

This guy isn't a troll, in my opinion. He is just a total moron.

Careful now.

Dave!

estebancambias wrote:

I guess me and Mamoud Abbas have a bit in common.

Didn't realise Abbas had a mental disorder....... hmmmm.....

Wacker

The Atheist wrote:

Careful now.

Apologies. And to you, Esteban.

5uspect

cavedave wrote:

I wonder what gods politicalcompass would be?
In the old testament he seems to be a market forces authoritarian. The Torah is full of advice on how to run business and he definetely was fond of the smack down.
Jesus seems to a lefty liberal does he not? I guess buddha would be somewhere similar. God gives us stuff for free so he is not a market forces kind of guy....

Obviously the holy trinity explains this one. God, the authoritative father, gets the top half and Jesus gets the bottom left cos he's all for the compassion etc, and from that we can conclude that the holy spirit is a right wing libertarian

estebancambias

No problem Wacker. I can accept being called a moron more than a troll. The moron bit is based on opinion and observation, the troll reference is based on presumptions.

PDN

Anyone who starts posting about the IRA in the middle of a thread in the Soccer forum about the Champions League has to be a troll.

estebancambias wrote:

No dude, leave them at, Celtic are sooooo much betr than rangers scum...IRA.... Like Celtic drew with AC MIlan at home, a few years ago, so celtic are like much betr ye no. Tey are a true irish team, wit tere shamrock on tere jersey.

Dave!

Surely he should be banned by now...

estebancambias

People on that board were being moronic, they failed to give Rangers their dues because of blind hatred, I felt I should point this out.

5uspect

PDN wrote:

Anyone who starts posting about the IRA in the middle of a thread in the Soccer forum about the Champions League has to be a troll.

And I thought the soccer forum had strict standards for who posted there?
Has he been banned from there too?

Boards.ie Wiki wrote:

Troll - Someone who posts obscene, abusive or controversial new topics or replies, specifically to get a response from other posters, usually negative. "Feeding" a troll basically means giving them what they want, negative or emotional responses.

lostexpectation

there are loads of atheist right wing libertarians especially in america, check out this guy and the people that link to him

http://www.youtube.com/user/johnplex

is yerman looking for atheist conservatives?

Zillah

Shock horror.

I think my liberal answers in the sex department balanced out my slightly euro-centric view of the world...

Scofflaw

lostexpectation wrote:

there are loads of atheist right wing libertarians especially in america, check out this guy and the people that link to him

http://www.youtube.com/user/johnplex

is yerman looking for atheist conservatives?

Well, more speculating about how common authoritarian right-wing atheists are likely to be.

cordially,
Scofflaw

aidan24326

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56

Seems to be a common enough position here so far.

EDIT: how does one put the fig image into the boards figroll?

Shane_C

Scofflaw wrote:

Well, more speculating about how common authoritarian right-wing atheists are likely to be.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Stupid cheapskate athiest. Not only doesn't he believe in the rapture but he won't shell out for a cherry turnover, guess I'll just have to change my ways lest I be associated with "Brad".

5uspect

aidan24326 wrote:

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56

Seems to be a common enough position here so far.

EDIT: how does one put the fig image into the boards figroll?

you'd have to wrap a link to an image file (www*image*jpeg) in the

Borneo Fnctn

Esteban, you're a character. Stop posting garbage. I think you're the biggest heatseeker on Boards. The sad thing is I think you're being serious. You are not American and you never will be. Hating Darwin and the liberals is not going to make you any more American. You are resentful of Special Olympics athletes. Why? (Remember that thread that got you banned from After Hours?)

karen3212

I have to admit, it's a thread title that just draws me in! Good title Estaban.:)