3rd History (Formerly 2nd History...)

ianthefox

Here's my essay. It's also the Emigration question but it covers a fair bit of context at the time.

Cheers for yours Dave.

If anyone wants to share these notes on Emigration with me ...or on education or disease, it would be much appreciated :pac:

Dave!

FFS did anybody do a topic other than emigration??? :pac: Cheers

Brimmy, couldn't hurt to take a look at yours, yeah !

Brimmy

Well I did education. Ian if you want it send me a pm with your email. I'll send it to ye too now (Dave and Simon).

I'll attach my lecture notes too which are pretty detailed.

simonrooneyzaga

brimmy theres no other words for it other than your a complete hero.

passive

Brimmy wrote: »

Well I did education. Ian if you want it send me a pm with your email. I'll send it to ye too now (Dave and Simon).

I'll attach my lecture notes too which are pretty detailed.

wow... you take good notes :eek:.

Brimmy

Cheers. Now to just learn off the 8 pages of sh!te.

Also anyone think it'll look a bit weird when 5 or so of us spew up the same material in the same format?

simonrooneyzaga

ill just start at the end and finish at the beginning. :pac:

passive

Brimmy wrote: »

Cheers. Now to just learn off the 8 pages of sh!te.

Also anyone think it'll look a bit weird when 5 or so of us spew up the same material in the same format?

only if we're all sitting next to each other...

Brimmy

passive wrote: »

wow... you take good notes :eek:.

Haha I had too. I only made about half the lectures and knew this would be my question to answer on. Thanks though.

What's better, knowing 1 question inside out or 2 half well?

passive

Brimmy wrote: »

Haha I had too. I only made about half the lectures and knew this would be my question to answer on. Thanks though.

What's better, knowing 1 question inside out or 2 half well?

2, I reckon, unless you have some kind of guarantee that the 1 thing you know will come up in a useable fashion on the paper. Otherwise we'll hear your sobs and be distracted...

Mr.Nice Guy

I've spent the last 24 hours learning transport and famine & diseases. Marriage is going to be my Plan B. The B standing for 'bollocks nothing I studied came up so I'm relying on my crappy marriage notes'.

Will be glad to put this one behind me. Last ever history exam! Woo!

Dave!

Okay I've prepared for the transport/communication question !

Now..... disease, or education? Someone tell me

Brimmy

Education has a lot of dates but you can wean a lot of the crap out of it. Most of the articles are basically "xxx was going to put in a reform but it failed before it got off the ground". You could basically stick too "School system 1831, Synod of Thurles 1850, other crap xxxx, 1892 Primary made compulsory, 1908 UCD established" etc.

ianthefox

Education, since Brim's notes are delicious.
Plus, I think it's likely that it might be similar to the mock question. Or that you'd be able to bring elements of it in, at least.

Of course, I'll probably be horribly wrong and you'll see me crawl out of the exam hall after a half hour.

Wacko

Brimmy wrote: »

Cheers. Now to just learn off the 8 pages of sh!te.

Also anyone think it'll look a bit weird when 5 or so of us spew up the same material in the same format?

It's like the leaving cert all over again.

passive

Wacko wrote: »

It's like the leaving cert all over again.

well... 1/2 the amount of essays to write... Wait.. you f*ckers all did the improved course, didn't ye? *grumbles*

Brimmy

So quiet. Calm before the storm eh?

Wacko did you give me the notes on transport? Your figures are quite well.. Wacko.

1845 - 70 miles of rail track.

3 lines down.

Ireland had 515 miles of track in 1850 and 2370 in 1880

It built 445 miles in 5 years during the Famine? That can't be right..

simonrooneyzaga

finished emigration now. onto education which looks intimidating from brimmys notes! :-)

ill be happy to be finished at 2, have a 'well done simon' bottle of ken before rising at 8 to write mock essays before the exam. The key way of jamming the info into the oul noggin!

Brimmy

Read the lecutre notes and if there's anything you don't get read my write up of the article.

The article is essentially 2 pages of the lecture because it focuses on college and only briefly touches secondary and ignores primary education all together.

passive

Brimmy wrote: »

So quiet. Calm before the storm eh?

1845 - 70 miles of rail track.
Ireland had 515 miles of track in 1850 and 2370 in 1880

It built 445 miles in 5 years during the Famine? That can't be right..

he does say "3 lines in operation"
mebbe lots was on its way then? *shrug* anyone know anything about history can help us out?

Brimmy

*Shrug* It's the only transport source I have anyway. Just going to use it as my backup as it seems the most blaggable topic on the course.

Now time to Emigrawful (that made me lol in these dark times)

simonrooneyzaga

Train Wanka's!!!















People who do not watch the inbetweeners may not understand this

Wacko

Brimmy wrote: »

So quiet. Calm before the storm eh?

Wacko did you give me the notes on transport? Your figures are quite well.. Wacko.

1845 - 70 miles of rail track.

3 lines down.

Ireland had 515 miles of track in 1850 and 2370 in 1880

It built 445 miles in 5 years during the Famine? That can't be right..

Didn't notice that !

Ireland had 515 miles of track in 1850 and 2370 in 1880 - comes from Gribbon, New History of Ireland

and

1845 - 70 miles of rail track. (that was operational rail track) - comes from the lecture notes.

Might be best to leave it out, I dunno

ianthefox

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

Train Wanka's!!

Haha, bus ****!

Zippitydoo

Was it not that Ireland by 1845 was up to building 70 miles of new track per year?

No that wouldn't make sense either would it because the railway age began post famine and they averaged 60 per year.. still possible though as the famine would have brought a downturn in building for awhile.

simonrooneyzaga

Zippitydoo wrote: »

Was it not that Ireland by 1845 was up to building 70 miles of new track per year?

No that wouldn't make sense either would it because the railway age began post famine and they averaged 60 per year.. still possible though as the famine would have brought a downturn in building for awhile.

good theory - whats 70 x 5? :-)

Zippitydoo

Who knows were not mathematicians now are we... were historians! Kinda.

I think I could be right though...

Brimmy

Probably are. I'd go with a fact in a book over a lecturer note any day if there was a conflict because at least it's in print if it's wrong.

Anyone got any more notes on Emigration? I'm oddly actually liking the feel of this but I don't think I have enough from Dave and Passives notes to pull out a high quality answer with lots of depth beyond surface figures (no offense) and really don't want to read another article..

Zippitydoo

Here's my emigration essay... no notes in print form sorry. I never bothered getting my mark but I think it's semi decent.

Any chance I could get those education notes off you that people are raving about please?

Oh my email is christianstevens@gmail.com

God I'm a twat just remembered my essays not emmigration it's marriage.... apologies.

Brimmy

Cheers for that. PM me your email address and I'll send them

Miller: Ireland was a “sick society,” Those left behind were condemned to institutionalised superfluousness

Eh...super flu ousness? Is my brain broken or does that make sense to anyone?