3rd History (Formerly 2nd History...)

Dave!

Suhh weet!!!

I'll DEFINITELY get it done over the weekend.... DEFINITELY!!!

I do not deserve to pass if I don't get that feckin essay done :mad:

God this exam lark is startin to worry me now Think I'm gonna quit my job in a week so I have a bit of time to study

*Hank Scorpio*

So erm was that the last U.S History lecture today? Didn't finish until 5 past 11

Dunno what to think of this guys part of the course tbh.

Dave!

I haven't a clue bout his part of the course.... think I'll just make a note of the topics and then read up on them in the book.

BTW did anyone mail Maurice Bric? Someone said they were gonna ask him for tips

Also, what are the requirements for the essay? Is there a certain amount of footnotes/books to be used? And also, what font, etc., is it supposed to be? Think this is my only essay of the semester, so I'm a little rusty!

Just about to start the writing part...... fun fun fun.......

Tom65

Has anyone finished the Early Modern Ireland essay. I'm doing the Ulster plantations one and I got to the consequences part of that and got stumped. I wrote something vague about the Troubles or something. Not exactly A standard.

Dave!

Hah yeah I'm struggling a bit with the consequences too! Talk a bit about the 1641 insurrection. I'm also writing vague stuff about the troubles

delta_bravo

I talked about the economic and social consequences it brought. I didnt mention the troubles, you could i suppose as it fits into social.

Brimmy

Just about to start typing the Irish essay now, doing the question on the Nine Years War. I should have a finished draft by some stage in the morning.

Wooo!!

Dave!

It's due tomorrow at 12, innit Brimmy?

I'm finished it.... except, I only used 2 books, and didn't bother putting in footnotes So gonna do that now, and then add in some random books for the bibliography. Then finally be done with the bloody thing!

Brimmy

DaveMcG wrote: »

It's due tomorrow at 12, innit Brimmy?

Is it 12? I don't know, I was never able to make it to either of the tutorials so it's going to be interesting having to hand it in..

Dave!

Yeah me too AFAIK my tutor is Emma Lyons, so I'll go with that......

Brimmy

DaveMcG wrote: »

Yeah me too AFAIK my tutor is Emma Lyons, so I'll go with that......

Damn you! Meh I'm sure I'll be able to find out easily enough.. so deadlines in less than 12 hours.. half the essay typed out and notes all in front of me.. god I hate 800 word assignments, they're so annoying to construct

Dave!

Get off boards and do it! I was hoping to print it out and write in some nice points to put footnotes, but alas, I'm out of ink. Story of my life

Pride Fighter

Did anyone else get an email off a worried student about exam topics for US history?

Chakar

You're not allowed to include books in your bibliography that have not been referred to, in the footnotes. I'd say it'll especially obvious in an 800 word essay.

Best of luck with it.

spaceman1

Since when? I do it all the time and get no complaints.

seraphimvc

good luck guys on essay!!:D

the real post:

:O 2nd art related thread has a 20+ pages posts?!

must be a record in our forum,gotta leave my footprint here historical page:)

Flume

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Did anyone else get an email off a worried student about exam topics for US history?

Yeah. Cant see why she doesn't just email the lecturer instead of all us?

spaceman1

Might have something to do with the fact that he doesn't answer his emails.

*Hank Scorpio*

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Did anyone else get an email off a worried student about exam topics for US history?

Yeah got that too, wouldn't mind knowing myself tbh...

Ugh still doing essays atm and exams in two weeks

Brimmy

spaceman1 wrote: »

Since when? I do it all the time and get no complaints.

Since forever. I got busted on it last year for Renaissance and marked down a grade point for it.

Subsequently is anyone doing the Calvin Renaissance repeat essay? What are you focusing on, just his control over the state or are you examining the the conflicts with the Libertines et al?

ferdi

Chakar wrote: »

You're not allowed to include books in your bibliography that have not been referred to, in the footnotes.

I've always done this, never a problem and I dont see why there would be. It is totally legitimate to include any reading you did in the bibliography if the ideas held within contributed to the finished essay, even if you didnt quote it directly or footnote. If someone actually deducted marks for this you should have gone to town on them.

Tom65

ferdi wrote: »

I've always done this, never a problem and I dont see why there would be. It is totally legitimate to include any reading you did in the bibliography if the ideas held within contributed to the finished essay, even if you didnt quote it directly or footnote. If someone actually deducted marks for this you should have gone to town on them.

Yeah. I was told by a tutor that you could put books in a bibliography without having referenced them in the text. It would be ridiculous if you couldn't, there's been plenty of times I've spent a hour or so going through a book without being able to use anything from it in the essay. I'll still through it in the bibliography, because I've spent the time reading it.

spaceman1

So Brimmy, did they actually say you couldn't or are you assuming that is why you got marked down. I was told to include anything you've read in case you took someone's idea without realising it. What tutor did you have?

princess-sprkle

Tom65 wrote: »

Yeah. I was told by a tutor that you could put books in a bibliography without having referenced them in the text. It would be ridiculous if you couldn't, there's been plenty of times I've spent a hour or so going through a book without being able to use anything from it in the essay. I'll still through it in the bibliography, because I've spent the time reading it.

we were always told to include at least one direct reference to it or we couldn't use it and get marked down a point. It was always expected to do backround reading to get the jist of it. if your tutor doesn't mind, thats cool. not all of them do though.

Tom65

princess-sprkle wrote: »

we were always told to include at least one direct reference to it or we couldn't use it and get marked down a point. It was always expected to do backround reading to get the jist of it. if your tutor doesn't mind, thats cool. not all of them do though.

Yeah, maybe it varies from tutor to tutor. It was a tutor last year who told me that. So maybe I'm buggered for this year

Brimmy

spaceman1 wrote: »

So Brimmy, did they actually say you couldn't or are you assuming that is why you got marked down.

It was one of the tutors for the Revolution module in the first semester of first year. She reprimanded me saying I can't include anything I don't make reference too directly or indirectly in the essay, only anything that can be contributed to my actual theory could be included. Even though I had read the books and they were complete muck on the subject matter.

Although she was a bit of a joke of a tutor who never knew what she was talking about so who knows

spaceman1

You should probably get all your assignments rechecked, just in case the tutors are out to get you for some reason.

Pride Fighter

Hpoefully you will all be at the Irish history class this morning. I have a classics essay to hand in so I'll be there, in fact I am outside theatre L as we speak.

Dave!

Irish is finished, no? no?

Pride Fighter

:(:mad::o:p:):rolleyes:;):D:pac:

DaveMcG wrote: »

Irish is finished, no? no?

Ah well, I only came in to avoid superfines. That sucks, wasted good money on bus and luas fare to avoid punitive sanctions. Something sucks, oh yeah being in a lecture theatre on your own to a class that does not exist.:eek::cool:

Flume

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Hpoefully you will all be at the Irish history class this morning. I have a classics essay to hand in so I'll be there, in fact I am outside theatre L as we speak.

History is finished for the year!:p

Pride Fighter

Flume wrote: »

History is finished for the year!:p

Cest la vie :p:p:p:p:p:p

Dave!

muahaha Take advantage: do some study in the lecture hall!

ORRRRRRR, have a nap!

Pride Fighter

DaveMcG wrote: »

muahaha Take advantage: do some study in the lecture hall!

ORRRRRRR, have a nap!

I did an all nighter doing a classics essay so I am in fact delirious while typing this. The classics office does not open until 10 so I'll stay on boards for a while hand in the essay then go to bed.

Pride Fighter

Follow the youtube link in the first post, its funny http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055279323

simonrooneyzaga

what is the story with the 3rd reich in context? Where are the lecture notes? is he emailing them around? Possible essay topics?

Brimmy

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

what is the story with the 3rd reich in context? Where are the lecture notes? is he emailing them around? Possible essay topics?

There are none besides what you took down or what he handed out..

He gave out a list of possible essay topics a few weeks ago in one of the seminars, I don't have them handy but I'll pm you a copy when I can root them out probably in the next day or so.

Tom65

DaveMcG wrote: »

muahaha Take advantage: do some study in the lecture hall!

ORRRRRRR, have a nap!

There's a perfectly good library for napping in 30 seconds from Th. L. Great for some nice peace and quiet at 9am.

rubyroo

Brimmy, would you mind sending those essay topics to me too? Would be much appreciated...

I'm rightly fooked for History exams this semester, might as well not have been doing history at all for the amount of time I've put into it!:(

paranoid wreck

can I get them essay titles also please.

Is the layout for the 3rd reich test just answer 2 questions or what did he say?

The 2 hour test is worth 100% right?

simonrooneyzaga

Brimmy wrote: »

There are none besides what you took down or what he handed out..

He gave out a list of possible essay topics a few weeks ago in one of the seminars, I don't have them handy but I'll pm you a copy when I can root them out probably in the next day or so.

thanks a million brimmy!

Dave!

3rd Reich questions:

1) Why did the Nazis become the prime beneficiary of Weimar’s political and economic crisis
?
2) Who voted for Hitler and why?
3) How ‘socialist’ was National Socialism?
4) How much did ‘ordinary Germans’ know about the Holocaust?
5) Was the Holocaust the inevitable result of nazi ideology or a wartime
solution?
6) ‘A modern masterpiece’ or ‘fascist propaganda’? Discuss these conflicting
views of Leni Riefenstahl’s Triumph of the Will
7) Why did Nazi Germany lose the Second World War?


I'm gonna try and get a good answer ready for question (5), cos that seems (to me, an outsider!) to be a bit of a live topic in academic debate. Dr Gerwarth talked about it on the Late Late Show if I remember correctly

simonrooneyzaga

http://www.rte.ie/tv/latelate/20080307.html

(the very very bottom of the page)

Anybody who wants to suck up to the lecturer by replicating his views on the exam, work away here - this is the interview he did on the late late!

Dave, will those titles be inclusive of whats basically on the exam material wise? And is it the usual two questions/ two hours jazz?

Dave!

Dunno material-wise simon.... I presume that's just the structure of the paper and the form of the questions.

AFAIK it's 2 essays/2 hours, yeah.

Brimmy

Haha just came on to post these myself.

Simon - He said when he handed them out that there were no past papers but these 7 questions would give you a fair indicator of what kind of material to expect to come up on the exam itself if that's what you mean?

I'll probably go with questions 2, 5, 6, 7.

5 and 6 seem the nicest to allow leeway in your argument though.

simonrooneyzaga

Brimmy wrote: »

Haha just came on to post these myself.

Simon - He said when he handed them out that there were no past papers but these 7 questions would give you a fair indicator of what kind of material to expect to come up on the exam itself if that's what you mean?

I'll probably go with questions 2, 5, 6, 7.

5 and 6 seem the nicest to allow leeway in your argument though.

yeh thats what i meant! good to hear - feel a lot better about the whole thing now! Im off to transcribe his views on the Late Late!

Is this a new course or something? (Because of the lack of past papers)

randomchild

Might take a fetter on 2,6,7 with 1 maybe as a backup. Heh, I have a few female friends who will be delighted to hear about that Late Late interview. Apparently he is quite the dream boat...

simonrooneyzaga

he's a bit of a weed though in fairness - If you want the women to be swooning after you, quit the gym and hit the library - the brains what they're really after!

Brimmy

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

Is this a new course or something? (Because of the lack of past papers)

Yeah it's the first yeah of the course apparently, or so he said in a seminar at one stage.

I had to sit behind a group of igrls in the one seminar just talking about how hot he was, WHILE the seminar was going on.. it was annoying to say the least.

There's two German exams on as well for the time period, one on the 6th 6-8 and the other the 10th at 9-11. Ours is the 6th right?

Dave!

*swoon* @ Dr Gerwarth

If he had tits and........