3rd History (Formerly 2nd History...)

spaceman1

If you look on Blackboard it gives a past paper that is apparently closest to the exam.

The second part covers the Plantation in early Seventeenth Century Ireland, Poyning's law and its effect on parliament and government from 1613-41, formation and activities of the Confederation of Kilkenny and why it collapsed, the 1661-1666 Irish parliament and causes, events and impact of the Irish war 1689-1691.

Tom65

ianthefox wrote: »

So did anyone find anything usable online for the Land, Religion, Identity exam? Ah?

It's probably about time I decided what I'm doing. Definitely doing Surrender + Regrant which includes a bit of St. Leger and a bit of Sussex and Sidney. Hope he doesn't leave it off because it was an essay topic. Don't have a clue what to do for the second bit really. Maybe Poyning's Law era...hmm.

I'm hoping that he can't leave it off because it covers 3 out of 10 lectures we had, so it'll be there in some guise. If not, I'm ****ed.

I really hoping James I/Glorious Revolution/Williamite War comes up. The question that was on the Christmas exam would be perfect.

simonrooneyzaga

dont worry everyone, id say the exact same topics will come up from the past paper from last year.

Think about how many history modules we have had so far in ucd. Id say ive done 6 or 7 - can anybody actually remember being suprised in an exam?

I certainly cant - getting by on 2-3 topics (two of which were your essays) is religion in the history dept!

Brimmy

Can you repeat your essay material in the exam?

I wasn't at the tutorials so I'm not sure, I'm assuming not though right?

ianthefox

You can definitely use it. The question won't come exactly the same or anything so you'll just have to adapt it or whatever.

Tom65

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

dont worry everyone, id say the exact same topics will come up from the past paper from last year.

Think about how many history modules we have had so far in ucd. Id say ive done 6 or 7 - can anybody actually remember being suprised in an exam?

I certainly cant - getting by on 2-3 topics (two of which were your essays) is religion in the history dept!

I hope you're right. I know a couple of topics for each section, but I've realised that outside of those, I know very little. 3 hours before the exam is a bad time to realise that :eek:

ianthefox wrote: »

You can definitely use it. The question won't come exactly the same or anything so you'll just have to adapt it or whatever.

Yeah, that's what my tutor said.

Though I did the Ulster Plantation essay which was "assess the cause, implementation and consequences of the Ulster Plantation". I can't really imagine what else they could ask about seen as that covers all the basis. Unless there's a question about both the flight of the Earls and Plantation or something like that.

simonrooneyzaga

tough enough questions for leger and the plantation based one in the second section... eek.

delta_bravo

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

tough enough questions for leger and the plantation based one in the second section... eek.

I didnt like the phrasing of the exam especially the Leger question.

Tom65

delta_bravo wrote: »

I didnt like the phrasing of the exam especially the Leger question.

Really? I thought the Leger question was alright. Ivor McGrath's question were really tough. I did the Catholic Revolution question - there was a whole question on it even though that was a fairly small part of that particular lecture.

Pride Fighter

The exam was a load of w4nk, end of story.

paranoid wreck

was the catholic revolution one about james II?

i hope so because thats what i did and how catholics were during his reign.

if its not im totally ****ed!

Tom65

paranoid wreck wrote: »

was the catholic revolution one about james II?

i hope so because thats what i did and how catholics were during his reign.

if its not im totally ****ed!

Yeah, it was about his 'Catholicisation'. I waffled a fierce amount on that question.




About tomorrow's Italian history exam. I'm only covering two topics (origins of fascism and post war society/economic miracle). What are other people doing? I know he read out the topics in class, but I'd be worried about not having a back up topic.

Pride Fighter

Anybody got an exam at 9AM tomorrow? Oh and tomorow is fecking Saturday.

Lizziepoos

I actually managed to do all right in that land, religion, identity. can't believe it. chose my topics and studied them all, then spent the day listening people predicting that everything other than what i had studied would come up. when the supervisor handed me that exam, in my mind i was just thinking, "if i could right now, i would make love to the nine years war and the kilkenny confedorate." pretty sure that would quite a distracting sight in the examhall though. more or less distracting than the pigeon flying around i wonder?... yeah, Italian history tomorrow at 9am. that is not a good cramming time. doing futurists, facist culture and trying for some general back up knowledge on giolitti. thinking of throwing in the blanket tonight and getting up at 6. coffee coffee coffee.....

ps. apparently this afternoon was the largest single sitting of ucd students being examined at once... 3000 students. :eek:

Pride Fighter

Lizziepoos wrote: »

I actually managed to do all right in that land, religion, identity. can't believe it. chose my topics and studied them all, then spent the day listening people predicting that everything other than what i had studied would come up. when the supervisor handed me that exam, in my mind i was just thinking, "if i could right now, i would make love to the nine years war and the kilkenny confedorate." pretty sure that would quite a distracting sight in the examhall though. more or less distracting than the pigeon flying around i wonder?... yeah, Italian history tomorrow at 9am. that is not a good cramming time. doing futurists, facist culture and trying for some general back up knowledge on giolitti. thinking of throwing in the blanket tonight and getting up at 6. coffee coffee coffee.....

ps. apparently this afternoon was the largest single sitting of ucd students being examined at once... 3000 students. :eek:

If you were at the back of the hall you would have heard something more distracting than a pigeon. A car just outside one of the back exits continuously revved its engine for most of the exam. I was cosidering walking out just to kick the sh1t out of the driver moron guy.

Lizziepoos

Pride Fighter wrote: »

If you were at the back of the hall you would have heard something more distracting than a pigeon. A car just outside one of the back exits continuously revved its engine for most of the exam. I was cosidering walking out just to kick the sh1t out of the driver moron guy.

You poor thing! that kind of thing would have had me going fcking mad too. i had a great laugh in the middle of it when some girl came back from the toilets and realised she had no idea where she was meant to be sitting! she had to get a supervisor to find her seat which turned out to be two away from where their panicked whispered debate was taking place. i know it was mean but watching her having to mouth "i don't know where i am" to the super brought a rather evil grin to my face

simonrooneyzaga

Lizziepoos wrote: »

I actually managed to do all right in that land, religion, identity. can't believe it. chose my topics and studied them all, then spent the day listening people predicting that everything other than what i had studied would come up. when the supervisor handed me that exam, in my mind i was just thinking, "if i could right now, i would make love to the nine years war and the kilkenny confedorate." pretty sure that would quite a distracting sight in the examhall though. more or less distracting than the pigeon flying around i wonder?... yeah, Italian history tomorrow at 9am. that is not a good cramming time. doing futurists, facist culture and trying for some general back up knowledge on giolitti. thinking of throwing in the blanket tonight and getting up at 6. coffee coffee coffee.....

ps. apparently this afternoon was the largest single sitting of ucd students being examined at once... 3000 students. :eek:

God thats crazy - I had an exam clash so i was in quinn by myself :-( - one of the lecturers called into see me though! thought that was quite funny.

But 2 exams in 5 hours isn't...

Got a 6 euro voucher for the restaurant as compensation though!

Pride Fighter

1000th post.

randomchild

Thought it was alright, the wording on the second section was rough. The guy who danced up the aisle was hilarious though.

Brimmy

Pride Fighter wrote: »

If you were at the back of the hall you would have heard something more distracting than a pigeon. A car just outside one of the back exits continuously revved its engine for most of the exam. I was cosidering walking out just to kick the sh1t out of the driver moron guy.

I was at the back and didn't hear this but I was off by about 10 seats so yeah. Saw the bird as well and got distracted for the first ten minutes of the exam by it then managed to cram everything out.

Did the Leger/Sussex/Sidney question, glad I crammed Sussex and Sidney last night and this morning though so it was still fresh and I could actually balance the question.

Did the land question on the second part which was a complete farce of a question but oh well, half of the answer consisted of waffling and generilization but what can you do.

3rd Reich tomorrow, time to whip out the old secondary school book and Band of Brothers dvds..

simonrooneyzaga

Pride Fighter wrote: »

1000th post.

no better place to do it either!

simonrooneyzaga

Brimmy wrote: »

I was at the back and didn't hear this but I was off by about 10 seats so yeah. Saw the bird as well and got distracted for the first ten minutes of the exam by it then managed to cram everything out.

Did the Leger/Sussex/Sidney question, glad I crammed Sussex and Sidney last night and this morning though so it was still fresh and I could actually balance the question.

Did the land question on the second part which was a complete farce of a question but oh well, half of the answer consisted of waffling and generilization but what can you do.

3rd Reich tomorrow, time to whip out the old secondary school book and Band of Brothers dvds..

... and the bibles

Tom65

randomchild wrote: »

Thought it was alright, the wording on the second section was rough. The guy who danced up the aisle was hilarious though.

Yeah, that was bizarre! Everyone was looking around with a completely puzzled look. I think all invigilators should be made to dance. And give out the answers. To me.

Dave!

Brimmy wrote: »

3rd Reich tomorrow, time to whip out the old secondary school book and Band of Brothers dvds..

I hear ya Hoping I can get by on common sense for this one, cos I did f*ck all study lol. Got home at 6.30 (after being out since 7 :mad: ), ate dinner, went asleep for an hour, then went to my brother's to help him with manual crap. Now I'm home and gonna have a look at the website someone posted earlier Also have a book from the library that has a load of sample essays in it.... nice... Think I'll stay up til 2 or 3 studying/cramming. As long as I have enough energy to get through the exam that's fine, cos I'll be sleeping for the rest of the day

The Irish exam went okay for me today... I had studied pretty much nothing but S&R and the Plantations. When I first read the paper I was gutted cos didn't think either came up, but after reading it a few times I realised that both were there, but the questions are a bit more specific. I was able to waffle on anyways!

Should be enough to pass please fook...

edit:

That dancing invigilator was f*cking wierd...

simonrooneyzaga

god... the holocaust is depressing to study

Tom65

DaveMcG wrote: »

Think I'll stay up til 2 or 3 studying/cramming. As long as I have enough energy to get through the exam that's fine, cos I'll be sleeping for the rest of the day

I was thinking of doing that, but I know if I did I'd sleep in tomorrow, and wake up at around 2pm. And I'd like to think I'd do slightly better by going to the exam.

Brimmy

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

god... the holocaust is depressing to study

I haven't even started studying yet, and yes I am aware the exam is in less than 10 hours.

Oh **** the exam is in less than ten hours! :eek:

Dave!

Think I'll start studyin at 12... I'm watching A Bronx Tale now (Channel 6!)

Tom65 wrote: »

I was thinking of doing that, but I know if I did I'd sleep in tomorrow, and wake up at around 2pm. And I'd like to think I'd do slightly better by going to the exam.

I'll be setting 3 alarms, hopefully that's enough!!!

Tom65

DaveMcG wrote: »

Think I'll start studyin at 12... I'm watching A Bronx Tale now (Channel 6!)

I'm really glad I only found that out now, rather than when it started. I've at least wikipedied Italian history. And googled it too.

simonrooneyzaga

Brimmy wrote: »

I haven't even started studying yet, and yes I am aware the exam is in less than 10 hours.

Oh **** the exam is in less than ten hours! :eek:

****, i normally like to get 10 hours sleep under my belt!

studying, sleep, commuting, cramming in morning, breakfast - how am i meant to do all that in 10 hours!!!

Brimmy

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

****, i normally like to get 10 hours sleep under my belt!

studying, sleep, commuting, cramming in morning, breakfast - how am i meant to do all that in 10 hours!!!

I actually sleep for at least 14... I'm already in it for the long haul.

And for me commuting is an hour and a half power nap when my body shuts down to cramming overload!

Btw with the exam topics he handed out in the seminar will each topic come up, guaranteed. Because if it is triumph of the will (riefenstahl) is looking REALLY tempting.

simonrooneyzaga

Brimmy wrote: »

I actually sleep for at least 14... I'm already in it for the long haul.

And for me commuting is an hour and a half power nap when my body shuts down to cramming overload!

Btw with the exam topics he handed out in the seminar will each topic come up, guaranteed. Because if it is triumph of the will (riefenstahl) is looking REALLY tempting.

I wouldnt if your only covering two topics - the Weimar rubbish and the holocaust have a much wider scope.

can we get a mod to shut this thread down until tomorrow at 11 so we can get some work done!

simonrooneyzaga

it just dawned on me that after these exams, '2nd History' will be redundant! I feel we should carry it under the same name into next year as a symbolic measure of its achievments.

Brimmy

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

I wouldnt if your only covering two topics - the Weimar rubbish and the holocaust have a much wider scope.

Weimar bores me and both of them can be waffled through as is without any work now. I actually like the propaganda aspect. But I suppose play it safe

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

it just dawned on me that after these exams, '2nd History' will be redundant! I feel we should carry it under the same name into next year as a symbolic measure of its achievments.

Seeing as I created this thread I am in full support, however it'll just get the ACTUAL 2nd history students from next year screwing up our thread :mad:

Dave!

gawwwd, those feckin second years! :mad:

Anybody had a peek at the 3rd year modules? I'm curious bout what the choices are... good excuse for further procrastinating! I'll report back shortly

simonrooneyzaga

Brimmy wrote: »

Seeing as I created this thread I am in full support, however it'll just get the ACTUAL 2nd history students from next year screwing up our thread :mad:

can mods rename threads? That could be an option - We dont want youngins hijacking our thread next year and claiming all the credit!!!

Dave!!!! Its 4 past midnight, you should be studying! not researching what you'll be cramming for this time next year :D

Dave!

Core
HIS30010 20C War and Peace: International history, 1914-1991 1 5
HIS30330 Twentieth Century Ireland: North & South 2 5

Option
HIS30040 Scripts, Scribes and Scholars 1 5
HIS30050 The Discovery of the Individual: Biography and Autobiography in the Middle Ages 1 5
HIS30070 The French Revolution 1787-1799 1 5
HIS30170 Doing History 1 5
HIS30300 Sport and Modern Society Britain and Ireland, 1801-1939 1 5
HIS30320 Science Fiction & American History 1 5
HIS30350 Aspects of the History of Early Modern Europe 1 5
HIS30360 From Wentworth to Cromwell: Ireland and the Crisis of the Stuart Monarchy 1 5
HIS30380 Aspects of Modern Irish History 1 5
HIS30420 Migration & Globalism: The Case of the Irish 1 5
HIS30500 Society and Culture under the Tsars 1760-1917 1 5
HIS30030 The Crusades 2 5
HIS30190 Sexuality and Society in Early Medieval Ireland 2 5
HIS30200 Crime, Punishment and Violence 1500-1800 2 5
HIS30230 US Civil War 2 5
HIS30240 19th Century Paris: Politics and Culture 2 5
HIS30280 Religion and Society in Independent Ireland, 1922-68 2 5
HIS30390 US Foreign Relations: 1945 - present 2 5
HIS30400 Madness and Civilisation 2 5
HIS30410 Aspects of Irish Historiography 2 5
HIS30470 Apocalypse Then: The Disastrous Fourteenth Century 2 5
HIS30510 America in the Twenty-First Century: Politics and Popular Culture since the end of the Cold War 2 5


Huh, not many look too inviting really... just a handful

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

Dave!!!! Its 4 past midnight, you should be studying! not researching what you'll be cramming for this time next year :D

Shut up! I didn't ask to be born!!!

I'm also looking at tattoos cos I'm hoping to get inked this summer Oh lordy what am I doing in a university......!!!

randomchild

I'm starting to think I was over confident in studying two and a half questions for German history... Oh well, hopefully leaving cert history will come to the rescue in case of emergency.

Brimmy

Edward James offers a module next year that's called something along the lines of "Science Fiction in America".

Oh hell yes am I picking that.

And they can rename it, though with us posting here and the exam only hours away they're probably not going to have too at this rate..

simonrooneyzaga

DaveMcG wrote: »

Core
HIS30010 20C War and Peace: International history, 1914-1991 1 5
HIS30330 Twentieth Century Ireland: North & South 2 5

Option
HIS30040 Scripts, Scribes and Scholars 1 5
HIS30050 The Discovery of the Individual: Biography and Autobiography in the Middle Ages 1 5
HIS30070 The French Revolution 1787-1799 1 5
HIS30170 Doing History 1 5
HIS30300 Sport and Modern Society Britain and Ireland, 1801-1939 1 5
HIS30320 Science Fiction & American History 1 5
HIS30350 Aspects of the History of Early Modern Europe 1 5
HIS30360 From Wentworth to Cromwell: Ireland and the Crisis of the Stuart Monarchy 1 5
HIS30380 Aspects of Modern Irish History 1 5
HIS30420 Migration & Globalism: The Case of the Irish 1 5
HIS30500 Society and Culture under the Tsars 1760-1917 1 5
HIS30030 The Crusades 2 5
HIS30190 Sexuality and Society in Early Medieval Ireland 2 5
HIS30200 Crime, Punishment and Violence 1500-1800 2 5
HIS30230 US Civil War 2 5
HIS30240 19th Century Paris: Politics and Culture 2 5
HIS30280 Religion and Society in Independent Ireland, 1922-68 2 5
HIS30390 US Foreign Relations: 1945 - present 2 5
HIS30400 Madness and Civilisation 2 5
HIS30410 Aspects of Irish Historiography 2 5
HIS30470 Apocalypse Then: The Disastrous Fourteenth Century 2 5
HIS30510 America in the Twenty-First Century: Politics and Popular Culture since the end of the Cold War 2 5


Huh, not many look too inviting really... just a handful



Shut up! I didn't ask to be born!!!

I'm also looking at tattoos cos I'm hoping to get inked this summer Oh lordy what am I doing in a university......!!!

Get a massive '2nd History' tattoo from one side of your back to the other.

If its anything like this year you probably wont be able to do all those american modules unfortunately!

Didnt we do the foreign relations past '45 this year??

Dave!

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

Didnt we do the foreign relations past '45 this year??

I didn't! I think it was an option though yeah.

Just checked and David Doyle (2nd lecturer from US History) does the US Civil War module, so that's a no go!

simonrooneyzaga

DaveMcG wrote: »

I didn't! I think it was an option though yeah.

Just checked and David Doyle (2nd lecturer from US History) does the US Civil War module, so that's a no go!

i did it - the lecturer is a king . Bob brigham or something.. total lidgend

Brimmy

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

i did it - the lecturer is a king . Bob brigham or something.. total lidgend

Brigham was a hero. Hands down best lecturer I've had so far in any module and was just an amazingly savage guy.

Just a shame he was only here for a year

Dave!

Shame I didn't do the module Sounds like a top, top lecturer!

simonrooneyzaga

Brimmy wrote: »

Brigham was a hero. Hands down best lecturer I've had so far in any module and was just an amazingly savage guy.

Just a shame he was only here for a year

hes going?! ah testicles

simonrooneyzaga

bedtime i feel - good luck with the rest of the nights work gents! dont sleep it in!

Brimmy

simonrooneyzaga wrote: »

hes going?! ah testicles

Yeah he was only teaching two modules I think on the Marywhatsitscholarship, then again that class may have been his only one. Was over while he was writing a new book.

Guy is a hero though and recommended a book to me by his friend who was arrested and imprison for not going to Nam and the volunteered in a hospital there. Except its amazingly hard to get and had to order it from Amazon.ca to my aunt in Canada and I'm still waiting on her to send it on to me six months later :mad:

Raphael

<Mod Hat>

I'd be happy to rename the thread for ye lads, since you've put toegether a fantastic feeling of community in here.

Oh, and still want me to lock the thread till tomorrow morning? I warn you, I'll probably only be getting up around 12 myself =D
</Mod Hat>

Dave!

Ahh sure I'm heading to bed now anyways, surely the conversation will peter out shortly after I brings the fun.

I'd be in favour of the thread being closed after the exams and starting a new one for 3rd year, but whatever

G'luck tomorrow chaps!

princess-sprkle

Brimmy wrote: »

Brigham was a hero. Hands down best lecturer I've had so far in any module and was just an amazingly savage guy.

Just a shame he was only here for a year

i had him this semester for us foreign policy, best lecturer ever!

also i recommend doing sports history (Britain and Ireland), easiest module i've done in a long time, lecturer is deadly, plus two essays and no exam.