EL Big Six join forces

KdjaCL

Six of the eircom League of Ireland’s biggest clubs have convened in a bid to secure the future of the domestic league in the face of directionless planning by the Football Association of Ireland, according to a hard-hitting report on Wednesday morning.

The Irish Daily Star carries an exclusive report claiming that 2007 title favourites Drogheda United, as well as Dublin pair Bohemians and St Patrick’s Athletic and Cork City, Derry City and Galway United, have joined forces in a bid to improve the eircom League’s lot.

It is claimed that the clubs are unhappy with stringent new measures set to be imposed next season which will mean players’ wages cannot exceed 65 per cent of a club’s annual expenditure.

The feeling is that the wage cap will serve as a disincentive to potential investors, with the report claiming that St Patrick’s Athletic and Drogheda will be severely impacted by the new limitations.

In addition, the six clubs are calling for the implementation of a fully-professional Premier Division as opposed to the mix-and-match pro and semi-pro state of affairs which currently prevails, while another proposal could see the government lobbied to introduce tax breaks for investors in the domestic game.

A perceived lack of support for the eircom League within FAI circles, despite the merger between the organisations last year, is seen as a major obstacle to the development of the senior game in Ireland, with some officials privately angry that the Association ploughs much of its resources into the international team.

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Some good ideas but i think using the 65% wage cap isnt a great idea, the 6 clubs all have huge financial albeit unsustainable backing in the short term and need certain things to move forward into a fully pro league. All have plans to do so but the FAI are not helping them in anyway.

Drogs need planning permission, Cork need a new ground, Bohs need to stop suing Carroll , Derry have a council issue regards doggie racing. We ehh have the backing of Dublin city Council and millions of Kelleher so are the only ones who are not in need any outside help, a good team would be nice tho

Fairly obvious who the source/originator is, all he was short of saying was Delaney is a ****


/edit grab Linfield and Glens and form the super 8

kdjac

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Who is going to finance the other teams in the fully professional premier division? This island, in the current climate, cannot sustain that many fully professional teams. It's a simple fact.

Or will the 'Big Six(rofl)' be happy to play with themselves, seven or eight times a season?

Also, does it mean that if a team that is semi-pro is promoted that they will be denied a premier licence if they refuse to turn fully pro?

Tax Breaks for investors is long needed, and I'd agree with it.

But this is the major thing

A perceived lack of support for the eircom League within FAI circles, despite the merger between the organisations last year, is seen as a major obstacle to the development of the senior game in Ireland, with some officials privately angry that the Association ploughs much of its resources into the international team.

As long as the FAI Suits are content to have their days out and eight course meals at the expense of any interest in the national league, then we'll get nowhere.

As long as Johnny Irishman continues to fund the EPL and SPL we will get nowhere.

KdjaCL

DesF wrote:

Who is going to finance the other teams in the fully professional premier division? This island, in the current climate, cannot sustain that many fully professional teams. It's a simple fact.

Or will the 'Big Six(rofl)' be happy to play with themselves, seven or eight times a season?

Should a fully pro league not be the target tho? The 6 clubs have got the investment we bitched about a lack of. Should they not aim for good stadiums and other financially rewarding streams of income.

If not whats the point

kdjac

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KdjaCL wrote:

Should a fully pro league not be the target tho?

Of course it should, but to force clubs into a position where they are fully pro and struggling to meet payments is idiotic, and could see clubs in trouble (Shels, Rovers).

It's idiotic, in the short term.

KdjaCL wrote:

The 6 clubs have got the investment we bitched about a lack of.

Fair play to the six clubs, if in fact all six clubs HAVE secured the inverstment.

So far all we get is bluster from Bohs regarding when payment will be fortcoming on the Dalymount sale. AFAIK it depends on planning permission for the site, which has not been secured yet, and tbh I can see problems with that, not least with access roads to any new residential developments at the Dalymount site.

I keep hearing that Cork City have money, but they seem to be spending zero, and are in fact a selling club.

Galway United have only recently become a stable entity.

Drogheda seemingly have some money tree that allows them to have forty players on the books, while developing a new stadium.

Derry are getting handouts from two governments to build a pre-fab stadium.

In fact, the only club that has any solid base for this is Pats as far as I can see. And even that seems a bit dubious to me. At the end of the day, they have gotten into bed with a land developer, and they don't have a good history with LoI teams, I think you'll agree. but of course, the Pats situation is different.

KdjaCL wrote:

Should they not aim for good stadiums and other financially rewarding streams of income.

Yep, that's exactly what they should be aiming for.

But I'd suggest that the income streams are secured before anything else.


And by the way, nice sidestepping of the questions I asked in my post.

KdjaCL

Did you read the article in the Star



kdjac

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KdjaCL wrote:

Did you read the article in the Star

Er...no, I don't read tabloid newspapers.

Why, did you write the piece that answers my questions?

Come on KdjaC, whay won't you answer me?

What's wrong here?

Why should I have read the Star to have a discussion on Boards.ie?

KdjaCL

DesF wrote:

Er...no, I don't read tabloid newspapers.

Why, did you write the piece that answers my questions?

Come on KdjaC, whay won't you answer me?

What's wrong here?

Why should I have read the Star to have a discussion on Boards.ie?

The article is the point of the discussion so reading it helps garner an opinion of the debate, not reading it and pointing out flaws makes you look like an eejit


kdjac

gimmick

I thought the 65% cap was introduced already for the start of this season?

As mentioned a fully pro league is not going to happen in the short term for obvious reasons. A semi pro league can barely be sustained FFS.

There is money in CCFC at the moment. Its just not been thrown around willy nilly. Our new GM (read chairman) Aidan Tynan is a shrewd business man who does not waste money.

What is desperately needed is the clubs to actually have a backbone and stand up to the FAI. Just look at the outrageous situation with the Cup Final this year happening 3 weeks after the league season finishes. They may as well have it as a curtain raiser for next season altogether. Its not fair on the players or fans. Not to mention December is a poor time to have a game of football (though SPA Derry was a cracker last season). As long as the suits are allowed do what they want without reprisal, nada will ever change.

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KdjaCL wrote:

The article is the point of the discussion so reading it helps garner an opinion of the debate

OK I read it, it changes nothing, now will you answer my questions, or will I have to ask a fourth time after this?

KdjaCL wrote:

, not reading it and pointing out flaws makes you look like an eejit


kdjac

Well I read it, and tbh it's just a more long winded version of your OP, so there you are.

Will you answer my points now?

Or continue with your usual sidestepping?

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gimmick wrote:

There is money in CCFC at the moment. Its just not been thrown around willy nilly. Our new GM (read chairman) Aidan Tynan is a shrewd business man who does not waste money.

Well that's putting it mildly to say the least.

The only thing that has changed since the new owners came on board is that players have been let go.

It's either the best players in the eL don't want to move to Cork, or your new chairman is Silas Marner.

gimmick wrote:

What is desperately needed is the clubs to actually have a backbone and stand up to the FAI. Just look at the outrageous situation with the Cup Final this year happening 3 weeks after the league season finishes. They may as well have it as a curtain raiser for next season altogether. Its not fair on the players or fans. Not to mention December is a poor time to have a game of football (though SPA Derry was a cracker last season). As long as the suits are allowed do what they want without reprisal, nada will ever change.

100% Agree with this.

KdjaCL

DesF wrote:

OK I read it, it changes nothing, now will you answer my questions, or will I have to ask a fourth time after this?


Well I read it, and tbh it's just a more long winded version of your OP, so there you are.

Will you answer my points now?

Or continue with your usual sidestepping?

Which ones? the ones about paying for the other teams players?

Would paying them less not work ? it seems to work in other pro leagues good players get good money at bigger clubs.
Others get less at other clubs, its how pro football works afaik.



kdjac

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KdjaCL wrote:

Which ones? the ones about paying for the other teams players?

WTF?

Where did I say that?

My jaysis, you have some way of twisting words, or should that be making shít up?

KdjaCL wrote:

Would paying them less not work ? it seems to work in other pro leagues good players get good money at bigger clubs.

Yeah, paying less would work, and it does to an extent already work

It's called Semi-pro.
Here's my questions again.

You seem to have misread them.

Who is going to finance the other teams in the fully professional premier division? This island, in the current climate, cannot sustain that many fully professional teams.

Or will the 'Big Six(rofl)' be happy to play with themselves, seven or eight times a season?

Also, does it mean that if a team that is semi-pro is promoted that they will be denied a premier licence if they refuse to turn fully pro?

KdjaCL

The very 1st line in your 1st post on this thread, have you been drinking?


kdjac