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206th Merseyside Derby

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  • #152
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    evil_seed wrote: »
    on the subject of kuyts tackle, which was worse his or this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkR5BGXrA2Y

    Lol, twas like a long jump..


  • #153
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    evil_seed wrote: »
    on the subject of kuyts tackle, which was worse his or this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkR5BGXrA2Y

    God i love it, everyone will ignore this.

    What colour was the card that Jeff Winter had in his hand first? Yep, a red one. What card did Henry get? Yep, a yellow one. It happens in football all the time but of course, Gerrard is accused of turning the referee against Hibbert.

    There was no intent in Henry's tackle, same as there was none in Kuyts.


  • #154
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,426 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Melion wrote: »
    God i love it, everyone will ignore this.

    What colour was the card that Jeff Winter had in his hand first? Yep, a red one. What card did Henry get? Yep, a yellow one. It happens in football all the time but of course, Gerrard is accused of turning the referee against Hibbert.

    There was no intent in Henry's tackle, same as there was none in Kuyts.

    And what is the red card in? the book Winter writes notes in!

    Add the FACT the FA and refs stated they would be coming down hard THIS SEASON on players who left the ground to make a 'tackle' - they said they'd be dishing out red cards for it.


  • #155
    Nunu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Which was worse - Kuyts or this? Cristiano Ronaldo got a red card for this against Man City:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmTyPd5oqqg


    Everyone, bar us Utd fans, were in agreement it was a sending off. It's the same this time around - pretty much everybody, bar Liverpool fans, says its a sending off offence.
    In both cases no contact was made. Kuyts lunge was actually worse.

    Personally, I think both warranted a yellow card for dangerous play, but a player is leaving himself open to a red derpending what mood the refs in (Ronaldo unfortunately had Steve Bennett!) -obviously straight red if significant contact was made.


  • #156
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,426 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Nunu wrote: »
    Which was worse - Kuyts or this? Cristiano Ronaldo got a red card for this against Man City:

    Everyone, bar us Utd fans, were in agreement it was a sending off. It's the same this time around - pretty much everybody, bar Liverpool fans, says its a sending off offence.
    In both cases no contact was made. Kuyts lunge was actually worse.

    Personally, I think both warranted a yellow card for dangerous play, but a player is leaving himself open to a red derpending what mood the refs in (Ronaldo unfortunately had Steve Bennett!) -obviously straight red if significant contact was made.
    I agreed with the red card at the time; he didn't injure the player but it was a dangerous 'attempt' that has no place on a football field - and should be stamped out (arf) Red cards should be given to them, Ronaldo, Kuyt, Henry, anyone who does similar.


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  • #157
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Nunu wrote: »
    Which was worse - Kuyts or this? Cristiano Ronaldo got a red card for this against Man City:

    Everyone, bar us Utd fans, were in agreement it was a sending off. It's the same this time around - pretty much everybody, bar Liverpool fans, says its a sending off offence.
    In both cases no contact was made. Kuyts lunge was actually worse.

    Personally, I think both warranted a yellow card for dangerous play, but a player is leaving himself open to a red derpending what mood the refs in (Ronaldo unfortunately had Steve Bennett!) -obviously straight red if significant contact was made.

    While there are similarities, there are keys differences with the main being that Ronaldo was showing studs.


  • #158
    Nunu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    jesus_thats_gre wrote: »
    While there are similarities, there are keys differences with the main being that Ronaldo was showing studs.

    ...yeah, and that Kuyts was 2 footed.
    Do you actually believe that Ronaldos was a more dangerous tackle?


  • #159
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,082 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Nunu wrote: »
    ...yeah, and that Kuyts was 2 footed.
    Do you actually believe that Ronaldos was a more dangerous tackle?

    well a challenge with studs is always going to be worse then a challenge without. Its the studs that do the damage.

    Both were terrible challenges, but if contact was made on both, ronaldo's would have probably resulted in more serious injury.


  • #160
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    I remember that Ronaldo tackle. He was being a petulant child because he had got fouled about 30 seconds before that and didnt get a free kick. Thats probably why he got sent off.


  • #161
    Nunu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Melion wrote: »
    I remember that Ronaldo tackle. He was being a petulant child because he had got fouled about 30 seconds before that and didnt get a free kick. Thats probably why he got sent off.

    :rolleyes:

    Same could be said of Kuyt...he lost possession then immediately chased after the ball and recklessly lunged at Neville from about 7 feet away!

    @ Rebel: are you saying that Kuyt wasn't showing studs:confused: Both feet were showing studs about knee high on Neville! Ronaldos would have caused more serious injury if contact was made?! I think you need to look at Kuyts Cantona kung-fu style leap again:D


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  • #162
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Kuyt lost the ball and went to try and stop it being played forward
    Ronaldo was fouled, didnt get a free kick and went looking for the player who fouled him

    How are they the same?


  • #163
    Nunu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Stop would you. I get it... you don't like Ronaldo.

    I didn't say they were the same, I said Kuyts was worse.


  • #164
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Nunu wrote: »
    Stop would you. I get it... you don't like Ronaldo.

    I didn't say they were the same, I said Kuyts was worse.

    You are really coming across as a 12 year old child now. Would love to use something somewhat stonger but you know yourself...

    If you think Kuyt's studs were showing, it is blatantly obvious that you are extremely biased or haven't actually seen the tackle.


  • #165
    Melion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Well then you need to watch them again


  • #166
    Nunu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    http://light.vpod.tv/?s=0.0.335743

    It's from about 4 mins in. Pause it at 4:30 were Neville has jumped out of the way and tell me there is no studs showing.

    Melion, Ronaldo didn't go looking for the player who fouled him...unless Joey Barton is black and changed his name to Andrew Cole:D


  • #167
    Jazzy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    hang on...
    players dive? fouls dont get seen by the ref? ref's make dumb decisions? refs that go on holidays with the team during the summer favour said team in a local derby?

    im switching back to pro cycling, a clean sport if ever there was one


  • #168
    redzerdrog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    Nunu wrote: »
    http://light.vpod.tv/?s=0.0.335743

    It's from about 4 mins in. Pause it at 4:30 were Neville has jumped out of the way and tell me there is no studs showing.

    Melion, Ronaldo didn't go looking for the player who fouled him...unless Joey Barton is black and changed his name to Andrew Cole:D

    the only place his studs are showing is away he bends his legs in mid air and is trying to block the ball with the front of his legs


  • #169
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Nunu wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    Same could be said of Kuyt...he lost possession then immediately chased after the ball and recklessly lunged at Neville from about 7 feet away!

    @ Rebel: are you saying that Kuyt wasn't showing studs:confused: Both feet were showing studs about knee high on Neville! Ronaldos would have caused more serious injury if contact was made?! I think you need to look at Kuyts Cantona kung-fu style leap again:D

    WTF???Kuyts studs were pointting into the stand because his legs were curled. They were pointing away from Neville.


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