Irish Women; Gods Gift to the Earth

Phil01

Why is it "SOME" irish women think they are god's gift to the earth? I mean come on, Irish guys out there like me must also see how arrogant and selfish irish women are.
Now im not classing all irish women as arrogant and selfish because there are alot out there who are genuine lovely girls. But the majority seem to think they are above everyone, and im not just saying its the beautiful skinny girls that are arrogant, i've seen alot of overweight irish girls who think they are god's gift.
Foreign women seem to be completely different there seems to be more of them that are kind and sincere than are actually arrogant. They dont get as drunk and are not as slutty as the irish women. But thats not the point; the point is why are irish women so arrogant?? Why do they think they are above everyone?

Again i want to say that alot of irish women are nice and sincere, i'm just pointing the majority. Who shoot down ever guy that even looks at them.

Anyone got some insight into this?

EDIT: Edited to world "All" for "Some" as people just seemed to get so confused about it. I don't know why!!

Slow Motion

Get knocked back alot do we ?

LadyJ

OP, how do you mean? Give an example or something.

Dragan

Phil01 wrote: »

Again i want to say that alot of irish women are nice and sincere, i'm just pointing the majority. Who shoot down ever guy that even looks at them.

Maybe your

1) Ugly
2) Socially inept
3) Smell
4) Casually insulting without reaslising it

All these are possible viable options as to why you can't get an Irish lass to look at you.

To be honest these weekly "Irish chicks are crap because……." threads are starting to fray my patience. Or maybe, just maybe, as based of this thread, it's because Irish GUYS seem to believe that every chick they look at should be instantly interested in them?

Sure, that’s a gross generalisation but **** it, that seems to be the standard for these types of threads.

Maybe you have nothing to offer them?

Beruthiel

You must be very old to know every single irish woman, I don't recall meeting you....

LadyJ

I'm always polite to guys but ultimately I shoot them down because I'm unavailable. Also,
even when I am single, sometimes I'm not in the mood for getting chatted up so I won't throw myself into a coversation with anyone....Does that make me a b!tch?

bragan

Does anyone else out there think that all Irish guys are arrogant and full of themselves?

im not just saying its the beautiful skinny girls that are arrogant, i've seen alot of overweight irish girls who think they are god's gift.

So, i take it then that you think only skinny, beautiful girls are allowed to be arrogant??

Lol, Sorry I just couldn't help myself! Seriously though, alot of irish guys are very full of themselves, and automatically assume that they can feel you up, or that they have a right to talk to you and that you must be pleasant in return. If you went out and were constantly grabbed, malled, and generally harassed, you would get a bit stuck up too. Whenever i go out, lads are constantly grabbing my ass, and feeling me up. And I'm not even that good looking by most standards. I can't imagine what it must be like for the skinny, beautiful girls!

Funny though, I thought that most irish girls lack the self confidence of foreign girls.

Phil01

This is not me personally, i've been dating a portuguese girl for 6 months now, and she even makes the point. And i have to agree when i see some irish women. I'm not picking a fight with irish women here nor will i rant about who i think is better.
But i just have to say what i think is a major difference between other cultures. I think im a fairly attractive guy but im not just talking about myself either, i see loads of guys getting shot down by irish girls and i feel really bad for the lads because its a hard thing to go up to a girl and talk, but the irish girls are so rude.

Whenever i go out, lads are constantly grabbing my ass, and feeling me up.

I can't defend for lads that do this, this is totally wrong and i know lads that do that are just a***oles. But perhaps they do that becuse of the way you dress. I think guys will threat you with respect if u dress respectfully, and not like a s**t. But i dont know what you dress like so perhaps u do dress respectfully...

humanji

Beruthiel wrote: »

You must be very old to know every single irish woman, I don't recall meeting you....

Too caught up in yourself to notice him?

jester77

Maybe it's because Irish guys don't know how to approach a girl unless he is well tanked?? I don't particularly like drunken women slobbering a sentence out at me, not generalising of course

digitally-yours

Irish Women are OK.

Unless you are married to anyone of them or have kids and then you break up :eek:

*This opinion is highly biased for the reason that a friend of mine is suffering from one.He is paying a very high Price for this.

Vegeta

you probably have the look of a sex offender about ya

Phil01

Irish guys do have to be tanked because it makes the rejection easier, plus u need that dutch courage to approach a girl. I've no problem with girls rejecting a guy, but the irish girls got a way of making u feel like crap. They nearly rub it in your face.

LadyJ

When men talk to women in clubs etc. 99% of the time they're looking for the ride and most won't hang around if they find out they're not gonna get it so maybe we Irish women don't want to tease you. It's very straight forward with us.

connundrum

My Irish woman is God's gift.




/copies and pastes post into e-mail in hope of a hug when I get home

humanji

Actually, I have noticed that the stuck up guys and girls are always the ones who really shouldn't be stuck up. They're usually dog ugly and dressed like they're going to a vicars and tarts party (no, not dressed like vicars!), or for the guys, one of the mannequins from the Unique shop ads. But sadly, the good looking ones usually have more potent mace and it really stings, so I just can't win

Tha Gopher

Phil01 wrote: »

Foreign women seem to be completely different there seems to be more of them that are kind and sincere than are actually arrogant. They dont get as drunk and are not as slutty as the irish women.

Irish women are amongst the hardest to get into the sack in Europe. Way more reserved, in public at least, its why you very seldom even see an Irish girl in any type of porn/skin baring shoot in lads mags.

The fact foreign (Fench, German etc mainly ) women cant drink like ours is a downside imo, they are less of a laugh. And despite popular belief among Irish AH users who have either never travelled or never worked with foreign women, Irish women are, proportionally, slimmer, better dressed and better looking than a great deal of Western Europe.

humanji

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Irish women are amongst the hardest to get into the sack in Europe. Way more reserved, in public at least, its why you very seldom even see an Irish girl in any type of porn/skin baring shoot in lads mags.

The fact foreign (Fench, German etc mainly ) women cant drink like ours is a downside imo, they are less of a laugh. And despite popular belief among Irish AH users who have either never travelled or never worked with foreign women, Irish women are, proportionally, slimmer, better dressed and better looking than a great deal of Western Europe.

Not compared to any of them I've seen.

Beruthiel

humanji wrote: »

Too caught up in yourself to notice him?

How dare you speak to me in that fashion.
In fact, how dare you speak to me at all.

Phil01

Irish women are amongst the hardest to get into the sack in Europe.

I'm not talking about the easiest women to get into the sack. My major concern is how unpolite and uncaring irish women are towards guys who do approach them. Perhaps 60% of guys out there approach a women to get into the sack, but what about the other 40% of guys who are nice and really do want to get to know the girl or become friends. They just get shot down!!
Foreign girls wont shoot down a guy they will actually talk with you, of course they wont go any further if they dont like you, but they are much nicer about they whole "i'm sorry i dont want to date you" thing.

connundrum

connundrum wrote: »

My Irish woman is God's gift.




/copies and pastes post into e-mail in hope of a hug when I get home

Ya big crawler :D

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

maybe that's cos the foreign chicks know that if they didn't at least pretent like they cared about being polite, some jackass would jump online and start a thread about how foreign chicks think they're gods gift to Ireland.

Tha Gopher

40%??!!?

I can categorically state that it is a lie. Even if you care about her after getting to know her face it, you dont see a bird in a club and think "god Id love to buy her something nice/treat her right" do you?

Humanji- ive worked with enough to know (large multinational firm, its half west european because they require people who can speak the main European languages). Dont get me wrong, there are some absoloutely stunning Italians and Germans there, but there is a large proportion of Italian women with acne (something im not sure i ever seen on an irish girl older than maybe 16, even then its rare) and when it comes to Germans who are overweight, they arent a bit fat like a fat Irish woman. Theyre bulkier built than the tanks that rolled across Europe in the 40s and tbh when you see a new group of staff joining its depressing tbh.

Tight with the money and all......

Hrududu

You are going to have to give some more details. What sort of knock backs are these girls giving out? How are they rubbing it in people's faces?

Dun laoire

Jaysus i loves me a good Irish woman. Feckin fine yokes yiz are

Phil01

maybe that's cos the foreign chicks know that if they didn't at least pretent like they cared about being polite, some jackass would jump online and start a thread about how foreign chicks think they're gods gift to Ireland.

lol

look im just saying what i see, i do have a right to that.. dont i? If u don't like that then how about replying with some constructive criticism, rather calling a poster a jackass.

I can see why irish girls shoot down guys with ppl like u around.

You are going to have to give some more details. What sort of knock backs are these girls giving out? How are they rubbing it in people's faces?

sure, its like whenever a guy would approach a girl he would do his best to have a conversation but the girl is just sitting there humming, turning her head not interested, its the whole body language, she will totally ignore u even though u are sitting right next to you. Other things include just been out right rude with what they say.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

(something im not sure i ever seen on an irish girl older than maybe 16, even then its rare)

rofl, you serious?

I can see why irish girls shoot down guys with ppl like u around.

BURN!!

Tha Gopher

Mordeth wrote: »

rofl, you serious?



BURN!!

The odd spot, but certainly not like your average young lad.

Actually now that ive grown up less young lads seem to have it than in my day, was some magic cure invented overnight?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

they've all gone emo, so they don't mind wearing concealer

bragan

Phil01 wrote: »

But perhaps they do that becuse of the way you dress. I think guys will threat you with respect if u dress respectfully, and not like a s**t. But i dont know what you dress like so perhaps u do dress respectfully...

Lol, I'm not even sure how to respond to that!

Phil01 wrote: »

I think guys will threat you with respect if u dress respectfully

I think you are wrong! I do dress respectfully. I don't wear short skirts out, or little tops. I wear trousers or jeans. And with my tops, only my arms would be bare. No mid riff showing for me!! I'm not a slut, nor do I dress slutty.

Guys seem to think that if you are in a club or pub it's ok to feel girls up. It's not just me that this happens too. The majority of girls I know complain of the same thing. Now, I know there is girls out there that dress like sluts, and get treated as such. But there are also plenty out there that aren't, and they get treated like sluts anyway!!

I think this had lead to alot of girls been dismissive and off putting to lads. Personally, if a guy comes on to me, I'm polite and friendly. I'm also quick to point out that I'm not single, because I don't want to lead anyone on. After that, most of them just leave :rolleyes:

Zombrex

Phil01 wrote: »

I'm not talking about the easiest women to get into the sack. My major concern is how unpolite and uncaring irish women are towards guys who do approach them.

Well that is probably because they aren't looking to be picked up where as the guys are probably looking for a score or a shag.

Irish guys seem to assume that if a woman is out in a pub or a nightclub she is there to be chatted up, probably because guys who are chatting up women are there to chat up women, so they assume everyone else is on the same page.

Phil01 wrote: »

Perhaps 60% of guys out there approach a women to get into the sack, but what about the other 40% of guys who are nice and really do want to get to know the girl or become friends

They tend not to approach random strangers, since you can tell almost nothing about the person and you don't know them at all.

Phil01 wrote: »

They just get shot down!!

As opposed to what exactly?

If you were sitting on the bus and some person sat down beside you and started talking to you and wouldn't go away and wanted to be your friend, do you think you would go "Wow that is so great, a new friend", or would you go "Get the f**K away from me"

Now imagine the person was trying too hard, not particularly interesting or funny and slightly (or greatly) drunk.

Or think of it another way, since you mentioned the friends thing, what would you and your mates do if a guy game up to you and started randomly talking to you and wanted to be friends with you in a nightclub? Again would you go "Wow, a new friend"

bragan

Phil01 wrote: »

lol
sure, its like whenever a guy would approach a girl he would do his best to have a conversation but the girl is just sitting there humming, turning her head not interested, its the whole body language, she will totally ignore u even though u are sitting right next to you.

On that point, that is just plain rude. I would never do that, nor would any of my friends. There is all types of people though!

jester77

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Humanji- ive worked with enough to know (large multinational firm, its half west european because they require people who can speak the main European languages). Dont get me wrong, there are some absoloutely stunning Italians and Germans there, but there is a large proportion of Italian women with acne (something im not sure i ever seen on an irish girl older than maybe 16, even then its rare) and when it comes to Germans who are overweight, they arent a bit fat like a fat Irish woman. Theyre bulkier built than the tanks that rolled across Europe in the 40s and tbh when you see a new group of staff joining its depressing tbh.

Would be hard to see the acne through the layer of paint they put on their faces!

Phil01 wrote: »

sure, its like whenever a guy would approach a girl he would do his best to have a conversation but the girl is just sitting there humming, turning her head not interested, its the whole body language, she will totally ignore u even though u are sitting right next to you. Other things include just been out right rude with what they say.

It's all in the approach, I never came across this when I lived in Ireland!

SimpleSam06

Phil01 wrote: »

I can't defend for lads that do this, this is totally wrong and i know lads that do that are just a***oles. But perhaps they do that becuse of the way you dress. I think guys will threat you with respect if u dress respectfully, and not like a s**t. But i dont know what you dress like so perhaps u do dress respectfully...

Hahahah, what the unlubricated knobbly fuck are you talking about?? What's a "respectful dress", and do all girls not wearing it deserve a good groping or rapage?

What are you, a Muslim?

LadyJ

Phil01 wrote:

sure, its like whenever a guy would approach a girl he would do his best to have a conversation but the girl is just sitting there humming, turning her head not interested, its the whole body language, she will totally ignore u even though u are sitting right next to you. Other things include just been out right rude with what they say.

Well then take the hint...

Why should we have to say, "I'm sorry, I'm just not interested". If a guy acted like that with me I wouldn't hang around and I wouldn't need/like him to point out the obvious.

xzanti

Wicknight wrote: »

Well that is probably because they aren't looking to be picked up where as the guys are probably looking for a score or a shag.

Irish guys seem to assume that if a woman is out in a pub or a nightclub she is there to be chatted up, probably because guys who are chatting up women are there to chat up women, so they assume everyone else is on the same page.



They tend not to approach random strangers, since you can tell almost nothing about the person and you don't know them at all.


As opposed to what exactly?

If you were sitting on the bus and some person sat down beside you and started talking to you and wouldn't go away and wanted to be your friend, do you think you would go "Wow that is so great, a new friend", or would you go "Get the f**K away from me"

Now imagine the person was trying too hard, not particularly interesting or funny and slightly (or greatly) drunk.

Or think of it another way, since you mentioned the friends thing, what would you and your mates do if a guy game up to you and started randomly talking to you and wanted to be friends with you in a nightclub? Again would you go "Wow, a new friend"

Exactly how I would have put it..

Phil01

Wicknight wrote: »

If you were sitting on the bus and some person sat down beside you and started talking to you and wouldn't go away and wanted to be your friend, do you think you would go "Wow that is so great, a new friend", or would you go "Get the f**K away from me"

Ok i see your point here, but if that is the case the girl doesn't have to go to the guy and tell him to p**s off, which i have seen been done, part of it is to let the guy down gently. Like put him down with his confidence in tacked.
Because even when a guy puts on a brave face in front of his mates he still feels the rejection.

Why should we have to say, "I'm sorry, I'm just not interested". If a guy acted like that with me I wouldn't hang around and I wouldn't need/like him to point out the obvious.

Because thats more polite than be ignorant and saying nothing!! This is excatly my argument and annoyance.

What's a "respectful dress", and do all girls not wearing it deserve a good groping or rapage?

What are you, a Muslim?

No they dont have to look like muslims just not looking like out right sluts, because then they will be treated like that. All girls want is to be treated with respect, but if they dont dress like they respect themselves then they wont get respect.

rossie1977

from my experiences irish girls lack self-confidence and this includes the incredibly attractive girls too. I don't believe the majority of irish girls are arrogant but it is very very rare for an irish girl to approach a guy in a bar/club whereas the opposite is true with foreign girls.

LadyJ

OP, I don't think you realise what women have to deal with in clubs. I had a smelly old man start dancing with me last week. I danced away from him and then he came over and tried to offer me money to go home with him. And before anyone says it, I was dressed totally respectably.

We get a lot of **** when we go out so it can be a built in reflex to say "p!ss off!"

Hellm0

Wicknight wrote: »

Well that is probably because they aren't looking to be picked up where as the guys are probably looking for a score or a shag.

Irish guys seem to assume that if a woman is out in a pub or a nightclub she is there to be chatted up, probably because guys who are chatting up women are there to chat up women, so they assume everyone else is on the same page.



They tend not to approach random strangers, since you can tell almost nothing about the person and you don't know them at all.


As opposed to what exactly?

If you were sitting on the bus and some person sat down beside you and started talking to you and wouldn't go away and wanted to be your friend, do you think you would go "Wow that is so great, a new friend", or would you go "Get the f**K away from me"

Now imagine the person was trying too hard, not particularly interesting or funny and slightly (or greatly) drunk.

Or think of it another way, since you mentioned the friends thing, what would you and your mates do if a guy game up to you and started randomly talking to you and wanted to be friends with you in a nightclub? Again would you go "Wow, a new friend"

A guy coming up to chat up a group of guys is not really a good example. A girl approaching a group of lads with the intent of sleeping with one of them
will suceed 99% of the time(assuming she's not got a face like a burn victim or some other eh, "distasteful attribute", though even then some lads would be up for it).

I think the OP's point is that women in general can tend to plonk all lads in the same pot and assume we're all child molesters/rapists. Then again it's most likely just the way your going about it OP, just bare in mind that women get approached alot by young males and can develop something of an ego. Trick is not to set off any of the normal triggers which will lead to you getting blown out, leaning in, acting needy, profuse sweating/frothing at the mouth. Also pick your targets, if they look stuck up they probably are and their not worth the effort in the first place.

EDIT. Also, this "40%" is closer to about 1-2%. I can comfortably say that in a pub/club on a weekend any young man approaching the wimmin's is out to get laid, end of.

bragan

LadyJ wrote: »

OP, I don't think you realise what women have to deal with in clubs. I had a smelly old man start dancing with me last week. I danced away from him and then he came over and tried to offer me money to go home with him. And before anyone says it, I was dressed totally respectably.

We get a lot of **** when we go out so it can be a built in reflex to say "p!ss off!"

Thank you - exactly what I was trying to say!! Some guys don't/won't take the hint. P*ss off is the only thing that will work, and sometimes that won't even work.

Outer Bongolia

Who the hell is the OP? Bernard Manning?

I assume if you strike up conversations with females you don't know then you are looking to score. They aren't interested. How annoying it must be for a girl out with her friends to have men coming up to her, expecting a flirt and some conversation. They don't owe you a conversation. As for your remarks about dressing like a slut, I repeat are you Bernard Manning? Or maybe a son of his? Maybe you're just a Bernard Manning lookalike.

monkey tennis

Phil01 wrote: »

they are much nicer about they whole "i'm sorry i dont want to date you" thing.

So girls should go out of their way to save your ego, eh. Maybe you should learn to take it like a man instead?

Wicknight wrote: »

If you were sitting on the bus and some person sat down beside you and started talking to you and wouldn't go away and wanted to be your friend, do you think you would go "Wow that is so great, a new friend", or would you go "Get the f**K away from me"

Nice analogy, this is almost exactly what it's like for most women in a pub/club. Except it's worse, the random guy is usually sh1tfaced or coked up and blatantly just trying to find something to stick it in.

OP, go to a gay bar and then you'll see why so many women have the 'get him away quick' attitude. I'm not saying it excuses it, but it'll explain it.

Phil01

1-2% its not!! I know majority of guys out there are only after getting laid, but its not nice when this happens to the good guys! i'm not talking about myself here. I wonder why any guy would find a girl attractive who has a built in relfex to tell guys to p*ss off. I sure as hell wouldnt tell any girl to piss off. If seem' womens heads swell when they get chatted up, this doesnt give u the right to degrade a guy and tell him to p*ss off.

So girls should go out of their way to save your ego, eh. Maybe you should learn to take it like a man instead?

Yes, if a girl was interested in me and i didn't like her i wouldn't say sorry your too fat or something, i would say thanks but im not looking for a gf now. Is it that hard to let a guy down gently...

Zombrex

Phil01 wrote: »

Ok i see your point here, but if that is the case the girl doesn't have to go to the guy and tell him to p**s off, which i have seen been done, part of it is to let the guy down gently. Like put him down with his confidence in tacked.
Because even when a guy puts on a brave face in front of his mates he still feels the rejection.

Well that is more an issue the guys has with himself and his mates, not the girl. The girl has no obligation to be nice and friendly to the stranger who just came up and randomly started talking to her.

Its like beggars on the street. I long ago gave up being polite and saying "No, sorry" to every beggar who ask me for money. I just ignore them. I couldn't be arsed replying to everyone single one. If they can't handle that there is a simple solution - Don't approach random strangers for money. Now I've no problem if they do, but they can't expect me to respond.

Likewise if a guy approaches a random girl in a night club, without an form of invitation (a smile, locked eyes etc), don't be expecting much. The girl isn't there for that for the entertainment of the strangers around her. If the guy doesn't like that simple solution - Don't approach random strangers in bars.

Phil01 wrote: »

Because thats more polite than be ignorant and saying nothing!! This is excatly my argument and annoyance.

Again, is it polite to approach random strangers in bars and attempt to talk to them? A lot of people would say no. Its rude. They aren't here to talk to you, nor do they want to talk to you (obviously). So if you aren't being polite in the first place, why exactly is the person you are talking to supposed to be polite back to you?

Phil01 wrote: »

No they dont have to look like muslims just not looking like out right sluts, because then they will be treated like that. All girls want is to be treated with respect, but if they dont dress like they respect themselves then they wont get respect.

Does that apply to guys as well?

If a guy dresses himself up so he looks very attractive to the opposite sex and gets lots of sex because of that, is he not respecting himself ... I must remember that when I'm next picking out a shirt to wear ... :rolleyes:

Zombrex

Hellm0 wrote: »

A guy coming up to chat up a group of guys is not really a good example.

Why?

humbert

Last time I was wandering around Dublin blithely looking around at nothing in particular, I couldn't help noticing the amount of girls who would almost go out of their way to catch your eye just to give you a look like you'd been ogling them with your hand down your pants.

I think Irish women are notorious for that.

Another example is when you order something from a café/sandwich stand/spar and the girl behind the counter has an attitude like you're some lecherous bugger in a night club who's been hitting on her all night. Just give me the bloody coffee, I don't care if you smile but I can do without the attitude.

LadyJ

Phil01 wrote: »

I wonder why any guy would find a girl attractive who has a built in relfex to tell guys to p*ss off. I sure as hell wouldnt tell any girl to piss off. If seem' womens heads swell when they get chatted up, this doesnt give u the right to degrade a guy and tell him to p*ss off.

I sincerely hope this isn't in reference to me. Did you read my post?
Well that old man didn't give me a confidence boost I assure you.

I have had my shoulder licked as I walked through a pub, hands on my ass, DOWN MY TIGHTS, while in a queue, and then get abuse hurled at me for no reason when I go out sometimes because I'm dressed up. Guys saying things like "Oh you think you're God's gift" even when I'm just minding my own business.

Now you try getting treated like that and see how nice you are to the random stranger.

I'm not saying I'm rude to all men who chat me up but sometimes I have to be.

hopalong85

Wicknight wrote: »

Again, is it polite to approach random strangers in bars and attempt to talk to them? A lot of people would say no. Its rude. They aren't here to talk to you, nor do they want to talk to you (obviously). So if you aren't being polite in the first place, why exactly is the person you are talking to supposed to be polite back to you?



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You sound like a great laugh on a night out. Lol why bother going out at all if you don't want to talk to new people. Might aswell juststay in and be ignorant at home no? Alot cheaper that way.

Zombrex

LadyJ wrote: »

I sincerely hope this isn't in reference to me.

I'd go out with you ...

Phil01

LadyJ wrote: »

I'm not saying I'm rude to all men who chat me up but sometimes I have to be.

Ok, i dont know how that must like, but i do understand, but u must be able to tell the difference between a guy who is p*ss drunk and out for a shag and a guy who is sober and want's to talk with you.

At the end of the day most ppl go to pubs nightclubs to meet ppl, couples dont really tend to go to nightclubs as often as single ppl, well at least most couples i know. So i understand how hard it is for the women to deal with this. But again i've gone out in portugal to nightclubs and seen women be much nicer to the guys where they just let them down easy.

Its not hard to be nice, it takes as much effort as it does to tell a guy to p*ss off