5 Million Pixels ...muuHaHAha (evil laugh)

jimmychin

ok, i want a 5 megapixel camera phone and there seem to be a few entering the market now to compete with the N95.

i dont have a problem between SE or Nokia as i have had both in the past but i tend to think SE's have better camera technology (maybe i'm wrong?)

anyhoo, these are the (only?) options:

Nokia N95
SE K850i
Samsung G600
LG KU990

the only other real option i'd like is high speed internet access (maybe wifi?) should i be looking for HSDPA (or whatever its called) - whats the best technology for this?

i'm more concerned about shelling out a lot of money and then needing an upgrade in 12months. i want a future proof phone that will last me at least 2/3 years.

anybody got any opinions on these phones?

thanks in advance

AlmightyCushion

I think the k850 is meant to be a let down. It doesn't have wifi and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have hsdpa.

neilled

jimmychin wrote: »

ok, i want a 5 megapixel camera phone and there seem to be a few entering the market now to compete with the N95.

i dont have a problem between SE or Nokia as i have had both in the past but i tend to think SE's have better camera technology (maybe i'm wrong?)

anyhoo, these are the (only?) options:

Nokia N95
SE K850i
Samsung G600
LG KU990

the only other real option i'd like is high speed internet access (maybe wifi?) should i be looking for HSDPA (or whatever its called) - whats the best technology for this?

i'm more concerned about shelling out a lot of money and then needing an upgrade in 12months. i want a future proof phone that will last me at least 2/3 years.

anybody got any opinions on these phones?

thanks in advance

Basically depends what kind of phone your after. If your after a regular sized mobile phone that packs a good quality camera with a proper flash then go with the k850i.

The N95 is a smart phone with a touch screen with wifi and gps and the kitchen sink in there but as a consequence its quite bulky.

They're aimed at two different types of consumer, you just have to decide which your closest to!

billbond4

The K850i does have HSDPA, cant wait till it comes out on O2.
The new keypad on it looks class

slayerking

neilled wrote: »

.......
The N95 is a smart phone with a touch screen with wifi and gps and the kitchen sink in there but as a consequence its quite bulky. ......

Does the N95 have a touch screen?

delly

slayerking wrote: »

Does the N95 have a touch screen?

Nope

melekalikimaka

5 mp with a sensor that big will just reduce the image quality, and increase file sizes

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm

godskitchen

Cameras are not all about pixels, I have yet to see good quality photos from a camera phone.

Linoge

slayerking wrote: »

Does the N95 have a touch screen?

It is also no more bulky than a K850. Neilled, do you have either phone?!

billbond4

I thought the N95 is pretty bulky compared to the K850i

HiredGun

I have tested the K850i for a few days and I was disappointed with the camera. The quality was not what I had expected but I was told that the final production version will be better. I certainly think the N95 produces better photos. If you want to see a comparison between the K850i and the N95 have a look at this:

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-k850-cam-en.shtml

jimmychin

melekalikimaka wrote: »

5 mp with a sensor that big will just reduce the image quality, and increase file sizes

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm

nice. liked that article, made me think a bit more

interesting responses aswell...

i had a k750i (broken screen now) and i thought the images from that were fair enough (not great but i'm not a professional photographer or anything, i just like taking snaps all the time)

so i want to get rid of my old samsung 5MP digital camera so i can get the 'same' quality picture from my phone.

along the same lines i like the idea of carrying one device - phone, camera, video recorder, voice recorder, mp3 player, radio and internet (not too bothered about GPS... for now).

all the phones i mention do this but i think its the camera/video recorder that will be the deal breaker.

maybe i only need to look as far as the k800i for value!

Thirdfox

melekalikimaka wrote: »

5 mp with a sensor that big will just reduce the image quality, and increase file sizes

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mpmyth.htm

Quoting Ken? :eek:

But in this case he is right - quality of pixels rather than quantity! Most camera phones probably just need 3.2mp - give me better ISO/optical zoom over more pixels any day!

Random

billbond4 wrote: »

The K850i does have HSDPA, cant wait till it comes out on O2.
The new keypad on it looks class

It's a bitch to use - I really didn't like the feel of it at all when I got a chance to use it for 30 mins or so.

Thirdfox

jimmychin wrote: »

...
so i want to get rid of my old samsung 5MP digital camera so i can get the 'same' quality picture from my phone...

With respect you'll probably find that no camera phone can match your old samsung right now in terms of features and (perhaps) image quality (depending on how old your camera is).

You can get a great P&S camera for around E150 that will be better than any camera phone out there right now. See the Canon Powershot , Fuji 31fd or Panasonic Lumix range.

If you just want snaps though a camera phone will be fine (and more convenient).

It will be a long time before they are capable of anything like this though (6 megapixel image from dSLR):

xanthor

billbond4 wrote: »

The K850i does have HSDPA, cant wait till it comes out on O2.

Clutching at straws i know... but have O2 announced any timeframe?

ablelocks

xanthor wrote: »

Clutching at straws i know... but have O2 announced any timeframe?

I was told "maybe November, certainly by Christmas" in an O2 shop on saturday.

billbond4

Just got this email back from O2

Subject: RE: Sony ericsson K850i


Dear Liam,



Thank you for your recent e-mail.



Unfortunately, after extensive testing O2 have decided not to range this model. Apologies for any inconvenience caused.



We hope this is of assistance.



If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact us by mail or by calling the Speakeasy Helpline on 1747 from your O2 phone (0.14c per call) or 1850 60 1747 from a landline (please contact your service provider for call charges) or 1909 for billpay customers.



Kind Regards,
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O2 Customer Care

Mitch Connor

i wonder what the reason is for them not going with it is. Hopefully it is not because it is crap. I really want to get a new mobile this christmas, and this was the one that was ticking the most boxes (N95 just seems a bit too big)

I was hoping it would be in the shops sometime soon so I could get a feel for the phone and see if i liked the new keypad. Bugger.

Back to the drawing board now.

billbond4

Yeah its strange that they dropped it, it had been in test since July.
Must have been some incompatible with the O2 network or something.
Was looking forward to getting it on my upgrade, will have to see what other phones O2 will bring out for christmas.

ablelocks

new Samsung G800 : from the press release - due in Europe in November.

The Samsung G800 is the world’s first 5 megapixel camera phone with 3x optical zoom lens. The G800 looks like a streamlined digital camera on one side and a fashionable mobile phone on the other side. The Samsung G800 also offers face detection, Xenon flash and Wide Dynamic Range, and video editing functions allow users to cut, paste, and edit their own films.

Thirdfox

from http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/16758/samsung-g800-preview/ :

Samsung G800 handset preview - Mobile Photography
To bad I was not able the shoot some product shots of the camera due to the security label attached to the front side. Samsung G800 specifications learn us that the sensor offers 5 Megapixel resolution. Of course it is not only about the pixels, as we have seen for many years with the digital camera megapixel race. Internal processing software, image processor, pixel quality, sensitivity range and noise, effective flash range, stabilisation technology, etc. that will take the Samsung G800 right into the top of Mobile Photography or drop it like a stone when those features are not well enough developed. As soon as we receive a full production model of we publish a Samsung G800 review.

BostonB

I find the 2mp autofocus on the K750i?W810i decent in the right light. Certainly its better to have a photo than no photo when you need it. 2mp can print fine at 6"x4". Whats the point of comparing a DSLR with a camera phone? Thats just pointless. Compare it with a basic point & shoot ok, that has some relevence. For many the trade off of always having a camera to hand is better than lugging around another device.

You can use FlickR to explore photos based on a specific camera or camera phone. Some of the photos up there seem ok too me. Also from an artistic point of view you don't always want a perfect pin sharp photo.

http://www.flickr.com/cameras/sonyericsson/k750i/

aikon

Found out from O2 that they will have the K850i in November.

billbond4

Just got this back from O2
##########################
Dear Liam

Please note that we have identified a miscommunication in the previous reply that was sent to you


O2 are delighted to inform you that the Sony Ericsson K850i will be available to Postpaid Customers in November 2007. This particular Handset will be exclusive to O2 for 2007


Should you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact us


Kind Regards

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Team Leader - O2 Customer Care