Berite and the boys get pay rise!!

fatherdougalmag

In a week where you hear about a hospital without hot water and poor cap-in-hand Bertie getting a €30k+ (tax free I presume) pay rise it smacks of arrogance just like his [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Haughey]former employer[/url] who:

... spent large sums of these funds on Charvet shirts and expensive dinners in a top Dublin restaurant, while preaching belt-tightening and implementing budget cuts as a national policy

darkman2

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vote FF N01

FFS what is with you people. FF fleeced you after the last election and now their more popular then ever. Your more to be pittied then laughed at.

tallaght01

To play devil's advocate here. i think running the country is arguably worth almost 400k per annum.

US and UK presidents etc don't give themselves massive pay because they make enormous money when their terms are up.

And he did a good enough job to get re-elected, so some people must think he's doing a good job?

I don't live in Ireland anymore, so it's nothing to do with me. But 380k doesn't seem an outrageous wage to be responsible for the running of the country.

fatherdougalmag

I'm glad I'm getting shot of this country and moving to a country where you can get prosecuted for crushing beer cans with yer jugs

Terry

Only 105 posts?

Christ. Us mods get more than that and we do it free. Some of us were elected too.

TheMilkyPirate

Oprah winfrey earns 225million dollars a year for sitting on her arse and talking all day.

And yet there is people here complaining that the man who RUNS THEIR COUNTRY earns 310,000 euro a year..

So i'm assuming if all of you who are complaining were in the same position you would turn down a payrise ha! Please...

Ickle Magoo

Well, Bertie said we would all have to tighten our belts...if giving yourself a pat on the head & a 14% pay rise isn't tightening your belt, then I don't know what is. :rolleyes:

marcsignal

baraca wrote: »

Oprah winfrey earns 225million dollars a year for sitting on her arse and talking all day.

yeah , but she's better looking than bertie and thats only 156.42million euro

paconnors

What do you think will happen before the next election at the budget they will give the oap a rise in pension and the will win on the OAP vote.

Thats my 2 cents

TheMilkyPirate

marcsignal wrote: »

yeah , but she's better looking than bertie and thats only 156.42million euro

Suppose, So she only earns more than 156million a year more than bertie, And she isn't that great lookin'!

2Scoops

baraca wrote: »

Oprah winfrey earns 225million dollars a year for sitting on her arse and talking all day.

The difference is that Oprah is not being paid with taxpayers' money.

baraca wrote: »

And yet there is people here complaining that the man who RUNS THEIR COUNTRY earns 310,000 euro a year..

The fact that he's running it badly seems lost on you. Anyway, it doesn't appear to be a particularly difficult job since an illiterate college drop-out like Bertie can do it.

baraca wrote: »

So i'm assuming if all of you who are complaining were in the same position you would turn down a payrise ha! Please...

We are not in charge of giving ourselves payrises. He's not accepting it from someone, he's giving it to himself - big difference.

Bertie and all ministers are public servants and paying them this amount of money for a job that requires no apparent skill or ability other than popularity is ridiculous. Let's not forget that he's getting more than almost every other politician in the world - do you honestly think that 'leading' a country of just 4 or 5 million people justifies this amount?

Edit: Let's not forget that he's eyeing up a cushy number in Europe for his 'retirement', so it's not like he has to make his money now while he's in office. And don't forget the full government pension!

I'm very curious as to what he needs the extra cash for.

meglome

Myth wrote: »

I'm very curious as to what he needs the extra cash for.

Probably doing up his house :rolleyes:

Macha

Also, everyone whould write an email to their local TD.

Here is a list of contact numbers - search by name or constitunecy. (We're in 30th Dail..)

http://www.oireachtas.ie/members-hist/default.asp?housetype=0

Just listening to the radio to people having to wait 18 months for a driving test. Think how many extra testers you could get for €16million..

This government makes me sick.

emmagean

From Wikipedia.....

The Mugabe administration has been criticised around the world for corruption, suppression of political opposition, mishandling of land reform, economic mismanagement, and deteriorating human rights in Zimbabwe.

Some of that seem familiar?
Maybe I'm being way too harsh, but........

buckie

paconnors wrote: »

What do you think will happen before the next election at the budget they will give the oap a rise in pension and the will win on the OAP vote.

Thats my 2 cents

between oap and civil servants votes should see them right for next election.

im off now to start me own political party
cant beat them goin them

TheMilkyPirate

2Scoops wrote: »

The difference is that Oprah is not being paid with taxpayers' money.



The fact that he's running it badly seems lost on you. Anyway, it doesn't appear to be a particularly difficult job since an illiterate college drop-out like Bertie can do it.



We are not in charge of giving ourselves payrises. He's not accepting it from someone, he's giving it to himself - big difference.

Bertie and all ministers are public servants and paying them this amount of money for a job that requires no apparent skill or ability other than popularity is ridiculous. Let's not forget that he's getting more than almost every other politician in the world - do you honestly think that 'leading' a country of just 4 or 5 million people justifies this amount?

Edit: Let's not forget that he's eyeing up a cushy number in Europe for his 'retirement', so it's not like he has to make his money now while he's in office. And don't forget the full government pension!

Fair enough

JohnnyStones

Myth wrote: »

I'm very curious as to what he needs the extra cash for.

The price of prawn sandwiches have recently increased in Old Trafford:)

and by the looks of his gut, he eats plenty of them

Terry

Gurramok, please do not post any more unfounded allegations against anyone.

If you can provide proof that this person is guilty of these accusations, I will happily restore your post.

foggy_lad

poor bertie and the boys and girls in the dail need a rise and after all they are not getting much! poor berty is only getting 1.5times the average income as an increase ha well think its shameful that they have all accepted these increases including the greens!

Mr.Micro

foggy_lad wrote: »

poor bertie and the boys and girls in the dail need a rise and after all they are not getting much! poor berty is only getting 1.5times the average income as an increase ha well think its shameful that they have all accepted these increases including the greens!

Well they are not green anymore they are becoming a sort of murky colour as each day goes by .We the electorate are the ones who are green.

gurramok

This was in yesterdays Indo, interesting piece.:)
Link here: http://www.independent.ie/national-news/its-not-the-white-house-but-for-8364310000-itll-do-1206188.html

Indo wrote:

Mr Ahern said he didn't have a publicly-funded palace to live in -- apparently explaining why, at €310,000 a year, he should earn more President Sarkozy of France, British Premier Gordon Brown, and even President George Bush.

"I'm glad I don't own Chequers and I don't have No 10," Mr Ahern said, when asked why he should earn more than world leaders of more powerful nations. "I don't have the Elysee Palace -- if you want to build those in, then you know what the figures would be."

He went on: "I certainly don't want the White House. There is no comparison, and I think people know that."

Macha

gurramok wrote: »

This was in yesterdays Indo, interesting piece.:)
Link here: http://www.independent.ie/national-news/its-not-the-white-house-but-for-8364310000-itll-do-1206188.html

Ah Bertie, he really knows how to twist the truth.

There IS an official residence for An Taoiseach in Phoenix Park - he just chooses not to live there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoiseach's_residence

It's getting to the stage where I just don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth

2Scoops

Indo wrote: »

"I'm glad I don't own Chequers and I don't have No 10," Mr Ahern said, when asked why he should earn more than world leaders of more powerful nations...
He went on: "I certainly don't want the White House. There is no comparison, and I think people know that."

Perhaps he's referring to the fact that being Taoiseach is so much easier than running Britain or the US and he'd prefer not to have those difficult jobs?

Or maybe he just prefers not to live in rented accommodation when when he can simply buy it through a proxy.

Scruff

Hey! leave Bertie alone its not all about him. Himself and his 2nd in command also are looking out for the Old boys of the party while telling others they cant help them at all.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/gardas-pension-plea-was-rejected-1208335.html

FINANCE Minister Brian Cowen turned down a former garda's plea for backdated pension - at the very time he had approved just such a measure for former minister Michael Woods.
Mr Cowen told the garda a pension change "cannot be introduced on an individual basis".
The revelations come after the Irish Independent yesterday outlined how Mr Cowen inserted a special clause in a new bill so the former Education Minister could claw back unpaid pension payments.

Fook a pension scheme, i'm joining FF!!

gurramok

Talking about pensions..

Remember Ray Burke, the corrupt minister who was convicted and jailed?(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Burke)

He still gets something like €100k in pension a year just because he was a minister. The current govt haven't even bothered their arses to implement a law to disqualify those that are corrupt.

God, banana republic how are ya.

Funny Feeling

I have had enough, since Berite came to power every government department has squandered OUR money taxpayers money.

Does anyone remember Berite Bowl that cost us €100m.
The Luas that does not even connect and never will over spend of €471m.
The port tunnel over spend €150m.
De-centralisation that is not even going to happen €1bn.
Not to mention the e-voting machines €696,000 just to store per year.

What do we have to show for this waist ? Health care only for those who pay privately, Ridiculous house prices, Terrible transport system, lack of school places in general a poor quality of living for the working class people of the country.

Now to add insult to injury we now have been told to tighten our belts. This is not acceptable.

daniel3982

Grrrr Berite makes my blood boil!

Hitchhiker's Guide to...

Has anyone in the history of Ireland refused a pay rise?

I'm guessing, no.

Why should politicians and senior civil servants be any different?

Regards Bertie - it is worth remembering that maybe the reason he gets a bigger pay than the president of US, prime minister of France, UK, is because Ireland is a far better run country than any of those countries.

gurramok

Roundtower2 wrote: »

Has anyone in the history of Ireland refused a pay rise?

I'm guessing, no.

Yes, apparently in 1994 i believe. It was either defo postponed or cancelled back then.

Roundtower2 wrote: »

Why should politicians and senior civil servants be any different?

They're not, all horrendously overpaid in comaprison to any other country.

Roundtower2 wrote: »

Regards Bertie - it is worth remembering that maybe the reason he gets a bigger pay than the president of US, prime minister of France, UK, is because Ireland is a far better run country than any of those countries.

Have to be trolling here?

thebman

gurramok wrote: »

Yes, apparently in 1994 i believe. It was either defo postponed or cancelled back then.



They're not, all horrendously overpaid in comaprison to any other country.



Have to be trolling here?

Well if a moderator is trolling they should have their moderator status removed IMO.

Terry

Roundtower2 is not a moderator on AH and is subject to the same rules here as everyone else.

I did not see that as a troll post.

galwayrush

Roundtower2 wrote: »

Has anyone in the history of Ireland refused a pay rise?

I'm guessing, no.

Why should politicians and senior civil servants be any different?

Regards Bertie - it is worth remembering that maybe the reason he gets a bigger pay than the president of US, prime minister of France, UK, is because Ireland is a far better run country than any of those countries.

Good grief, read the news, this country has been terribly run the past 10 years, the boom was squandered, health service is in melt-down,so many schools are in a bad state, we are officially the most in-debt personally wise in the world.Bertie and is cronies live in their Ivory Towers and try and convince us that " we are the envy of the world"

Mr.Micro

Its the normal people of Ireland who run the country and keep us going in the right direction .Let Bertie and Co have the money as they take the credit for the boom but no blame for things that go wrong.Its the Irish people who should take credit for our success not the Dail set.Ignore them maybe they will go away .