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Christan morals in UCD

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  • #32
    Sinfonia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    TheThing! wrote: »
    I think people who do such things are deliberatetly antagonising religious people. All those who follow secular lives are evil and need to have a serious think about where their lives are headed

    OMGWTFROFLMFAO
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  • #33
    conor2007
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    sex drugs drink , are good

    god is good


    tis the truth


  • #34
    stereoroid
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    conor2007 wrote: »
    what is trolling?

    It's a fishing method, that involves dragging the net along the bottom of the sea, not caring what they catch. The analogy should be clear...

    The OP has said this is not a troll, and I accept that, but I have to say: do you think ideas such morals and ethics started with your particular version of religion? What did people do before that, eh? Let me quote you something written over 500 years Before Christ, thousands of miles away:
    To be able to practice five things everywhere under heaven constitutes perfect virtue: gravity, generosity of soul, sincerity, earnestness, and kindness.
    What you do not like when done to yourself, do not do to others.
    -- Confucius, Analects

    If by morals you mean a list of proscriptions, handed down from "on high", that I am supposed to follow without question, then.. I have no morals. What I have are ethics: the kind of agreed-upon rules you'd find in a professional society such as medicine, extended to society at large. Paying taxes and driving safely are not moral issues to me, and neither are such ideas as "be good to people", which predate all religions.


  • #35
    orestes
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    Just thought I'd throw this in here cos I think it should be pointed out.

    I didn't study in UCD or any of the big colleges, but I did recently complete a three year degree course. The course was in a specialist college that only caters for philosophy and theology, no other subjects are taught. I'm not gonna say which one I studied in case it looks like I'm trying to swing this in one way instead of just saying it as it is. The college is in fact based in a jesuit monestary (I'm not gonna name it, but it's very near UCD), the jesuits who live there even give lectures in both subjects.

    Anyway, this is exactly the kind of place where you would consider christian values and morality to be the norm, yes? Well, no, it wasn't. Drinking was a regular activity (binging two or three times a week), casual sex was by no means a rarity, and recreational drug use was pretty much common practice. And the theology students were at it all just as much as the philosophy students. Just thought it might be interesting in light if this thread


  • #36
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,334 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    TheThing! wrote: »
    All those who follow secular lives are evil and need to have a serious think about where their lives are headed

    Thank you for that. I post on a number of sites, some of which contain fairly fundamentalist christians, Mormons, etc., and not once has any of them ever described my atheist lifestyle as "evil" in all the years I've posted with them. A little less being judgemental of others and more acceptance of how the real world works might just about turn you into a well adjusted member of society, but I have my doubts.

    conor2007 wrote: »
    what is trolling ?

    From Boards wiki
    Troll

    Someone who posts obscene, abusive or controversial new topics or replies, specifically to get a response from other posters, usually negative. "Feeding" a troll basically means giving them what they want, negative or emotional responses.


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  • #37
    Paul Tergat
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    morals have no place in Uni!


  • #38
    remus808
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    TheThing! wrote: »
    In my experience it is more noticable in UCD or in TCD and other colleges than elsewhere in society

    This is because students represent the new generation, and also are the "intelligent" crop of society. I think you'll find young, smart people are those least likely to keep the faith..


  • #39
    Thomas_S_Hunterson
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    lol, funniest thread here in ages...now back to my life of sin


  • #40
    MuddyDog
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    crazy thread but anywho's as previously said this sorta thing is everywhere and is common nature in todays modern society! don't be so shocked!


  • #41
    MuddyDog
    Registered Users Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭MuddyDog


    p_larkin99 wrote: »
    morals have no place in Uni!

    lol


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  • #42
    TheThing!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭TheThing!


    MuddyDog wrote: »
    lol

    That type of humour is offensive to people who truely believe in God and religion.

    From reading the responses posted so far, I have another question:

    What is distasteful about living a Christian life while at college


  • #43
    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    you don't get to have any fun.
    --edit
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54303942&postcount=88

    maybe I was wrong, you seem to find a way to get your kicks


  • #44
    Red Alert
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    When you talk about christianity do you mean overt christianity (like praying, saying the angelus, going to mass) or do you mean everyday christianity (like looking after those less fortunate, using your gifts and talents to help others)?


  • #45
    TheThing!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭TheThing!


    Mordeth wrote: »
    you don't get to have any fun.

    Well what is fun. I think living a fulfilling life is better than having a brief fling with somebody, or going out and disgracing myself by drinking more than I can handle. Can you honestly say that you would gain no satisfaction out of knowing that you are living your life the way God intended?


  • #46
    TheThing!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭TheThing!


    Red Alert wrote: »
    When you talk about christianity do you mean overt christianity (like praying, saying the angelus, going to mass) or do you mean everyday christianity (like looking after those less fortunate, using your gifts and talents to help others)?

    I believe in either and both forms of Christianity. If somebody is able to give some time each day to God, then that is time well spent. Of course fatih in action is better than having a grand sounding moral code which you don't put into effect. My beliefs are not backward, I believe that faith and religion can have real, tangible benefits.


  • #47
    TheThing!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭TheThing!


    Mordeth wrote: »
    you don't get to have any fun.
    --edit
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54303942&postcount=88

    maybe I was wrong, you seem to find a way to get your kicks

    Give me a hell yeah! and an Oh yeah!

    Amen


  • #48
    Dave!
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    Why should I believe in the Christian god and live my life accordingly? Convince me, bearing in mind that the Bible is not a reliable historical document, and even if it were, there are other similar religious texts which warrant the same level of respect that the Bible does (*ahem*).


  • #49
    TheThing!
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    DaveMcG wrote: »
    Why should I believe in the Christian god and live my life accordingly? Convince me, bearing in mind that the Bible is not a reliable historical document, and even if it were, there are other similar religious texts which warrant the same level of respect that the Bible does (*ahem*).

    Because, whether you wish to accept it or not, the Bible is the word of God and in his omniscience he knows whats best for all of us. Religion and God enrich life more than any amount of sin and evil ever could, no matter how tempting it is made to look. If you follow the light of God, you will not be lost


  • #50
    pretty*monster
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    TheThing! wrote: »
    That type of humour is offensive to people who truely believe in God and religion.

    From reading the responses posted so far, I have another question:

    What is distasteful about living a Christian life while at college

    there's nothing terribly distasteful about living a Xian life but being preachy, smug and superior about it is rather offputting I must say.

    So is not being able to laugh at yourself.


  • #51
    TheThing!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭TheThing!


    pretty*monster wrote: »
    there's nothing terribly distasteful about living a Xian life but being preachy, smug and superior about it is rather offputting I must say.

    So is not being able to laugh at yourself.

    Can you change that Xian to Christian please, I find it offensive.

    I am able to laugh at myself, but not my religious beliefs, when it comes to that aspect of my life, I have no humour, only respect and firm belief


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  • #52
    bowsie casey
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    Mordeth wrote: »
    you don't get to have any fun.
    --edit
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54303942&postcount=88

    maybe I was wrong, you seem to find a way to get your kicks

    ROFL....hey Thingy! I thought cleanliness was next to godliness....how Xian is this behaviour ? I bet the athiests don't get up to that lark...


  • #53
    TheThing!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭TheThing!


    bowsie casey wrote: »
    ROFL....hey Thingy! I thought cleanliness was next to godliness....how Xian is this behaviour ? I bet the athiests don't get up to that lark...

    Do you not do that?


  • #54
    Paul Tergat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,770 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    TheThing! wrote: »
    That type of humour is offensive to people who truely believe in God and religion.

    consider it part of your X-IAN way of life to be able to tolerate that then

    i bet you're mad craic to go out with!


  • #55
    bowsie casey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 334 ✭✭bowsie casey


    TheThing! wrote: »
    Do you not do that?

    This guy must be trolling....


  • #56
    pretty*monster
    Registered Users Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭pretty*monster


    TheThing! wrote: »
    Can you change that Xian to Christian please, I find it offensive.

    I am able to laugh at myself, but not my religious beliefs, when it comes to that aspect of my life, I have no humour, only respect and firm belief

    No, I will not change it.
    Firstly because I'm too lazy to.
    Secondly because I do not believe that people have any right not to be offended.
    And thirdly because I am trying to educate you about the history of your religion: linky
    Honestly the chi-rho is one on the oldest xian symbols. What did you think the x stood for?


  • #57
    TheThing!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭TheThing!


    bowsie casey wrote: »
    This guy must be trolling....

    Please, I have already stated that I am not trolling. If a moderator reads this can you please tell people to stop accusing me of trolling. I am not trolling! This suggestion is quite annoying when I am trying to make a serious point


  • #58
    bowsie casey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 334 ✭✭bowsie casey


    How can you in all seriousness be asking me then if I don't piss in the sink and dump in the shower (as if it is a normal thing to do) which you apparently do...?

    Hardly the actions of somebody of high moral value I would think. Or do you disagree ?

    To me the sentiments of this thread and your toilet habits don't really hang together...hence the reason for the troll remark. If you say its wrong, I take it back.

    But how do you reconcile the two ?


  • #59
    TheThing!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭TheThing!


    pretty*monster wrote: »
    No, I will not change it.
    Firstly because I'm too lazy to.
    Secondly because I do not believe that people have any right not to be offended.
    And thirdly because I am trying to educate you about the history of your religion: linky
    Honestly the chi-rho is one on the oldest xian symbols. What did you think the x stood for?

    No, I understand that Xmas is not in itself an anti religious way of refering to that time of year, nor is Xian taking the Christ out of Christian when used in its purest sense. I do however have a problem with it when it is used by people who don't understand (which I now realise doesn't include you) in an attempt to annoy the religious, as it often is.


  • #60
    TheThing!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭TheThing!


    bowsie casey wrote: »
    How can you in all seriousness be asking me then if I don't piss in the sink and dump in the shower (as if it is a normal thing to do) which you apparently do...?

    Hardly the actions of somebody of high moral value I would think. Or do you disagree ?

    That was taken from a different thread and posted here in a failed attempt to put me off. It is a joke, and obviously so


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  • #61
    B0X
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭B0X


    This thread contains copious amounts of win.

    Seriously though, this is mad, i could argue UCD lacks Islamic/Jewish/Hindu etc values.


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