360 or ps3 for xmas pressie?

Ciaran500

projectmayhem wrote: »

viva pinata wasn't very good. the fact that despite having a TV series to promote it, it still sold about 12 copies worldwide.

Lots of sales = good game? Viva Pinata was fantastic and if you look around on forums I'm far from alone, it sold **** all cause it had zero marketing behind it and it was in the market at the same time as Gears.

projectmayhem wrote: »

is halo wars actually a big exclusive though? i love my halo, and halo wars seems like a good idea being executed by the wrong people. age of empires is too slow paced a game to be converted over to halo wars (which is essentially what is happening here)...

Seems to be plenty of people excited about it when it was announced. Way to early to discount it either way.

steviec wrote: »

Out of interest where did you read about APB?

All of the game's official material and website have removed references to the 360 btw, though I honestly don't know what the long term plans are.

Haven't been keeping up with it so just from memory.

mcgovern

projectmayhem wrote: »

not entirely sure where that last sentence is coming from but anyway, viva pinata wasn't very good. the fact that despite having a TV series to promote it, it still sold about 12 copies worldwide. my point though, wasn't necessarily that viva pinata was a collosal waste of my time (i could just do some real gardening and feel like a real man with a pink sweater) but rather that the 360 market is very well defined as being a market you buy the unreal engine for and try to copy gears of war, but in first-person mode.

I take it then that you've never played Viva Pinata since the game has very little gardening in it, and even most of that can be handed off to NPCs.

For such a bad game, it seems to have gotten good reviews and lots of awards:

wikipedia wrote:

Reception
Many gamers and gaming journalists proclaim that Viva Piñata is one of Rare's best outings yet, with IGN saying that it is the best Rare game since Microsoft acquired the company in 2002. In addition to IGN's positive 8.5 rating, it has received an 8.3 from GameSpot, a 9/10 from 1UP.com, and an 8.7 overall from Electronic Gaming Monthly. The game scores 84% on Metacritic based on 51 reviews, and an 85% on Game Rankings. In addition, GameSpot included it as one of their 10 nominees for their "2006 Game of the Year" award, although it later received only 3% of the total votes.

While published sales figures for the game appear relatively low and failed to gather as much momentum as Nintendo's Pokémon craze, Justin Cook(of Rare) insists that the game has sold "close to half a million".

Awards

Viva Piñata was nominated for 6 awards by the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences for its 10th annual awards covering 2006, the most nominations a Rare title has had since Goldeneye 007. Nominated categories included:

* Console Game of the Year
* Outstanding Innovation in Gaming
* Outstanding Achievement in Art Direction
* Outstanding Achievement in Character Performance - Female (won)
* Outstanding Achievement in Visual Engineering
* Family Game of the Year

The game was also nominated for "Best Original Game" in X-Play's "Best Video Games of 2006" awards. Other accolades include a "Parents' Choice Gold Award" from the Parents' Choice Foundation.

I'm sure I seen plenty of other awards also.

super_furry

mcgovern wrote: »

I have to agree with Ciaran500, I myself have about 50+hrs put into Viva Pinata, one of the most addictive games ever.
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Couldn't agree more. Viva Pinata is one of the most underated games of the current generation. What's not to like about forcing animals to inter-bred with their own children before murdering their unholy spawn to feast on the sweets inside?

copeyhagen

having read all the posts here and myself being in the market for either a 360 or ps3, I think I will probably go for the Ps3.

Something about it seems better!

and projektmayhem is a nerd!! howdy mate

sprinkles

Can I ask you why? I'm not being a fanboy or anything here just interested as to why people seem to be going for the PS3 more

Ciaran500

360 reliability problems? Recognisable games on the PS3? Its a Playstation.

Gonzo

having played both consoles alot Id say the 360 wins hands down. Much more games and some great games, over the past 3 months there has been so many high quality games coming out for the 360. Ive never had to buy any accessories for my 360 either as I dont need them.

I think the argument that 'the ps3 comes with a bluray player' is not really a good selling point, Ive seen the quality of bluray on my m8's ps3 and as good as it is, it doesnt warrant paying 45euro per movie in hmv on bluray when you can get the equivalent standard dvd versions for sometimes quarter the price or less. DVD has a very good image quality still and the difference in quality between the 2 systems isnt enough for me to warrant paying an extra 30 euro per movie just for a higher resolution picture. If hd-dvd and bluray movies become widespread and as cheap as dvd films only then will I take them seriously.

yawnstretch

Long time gamer, loved and had all sony's stuff: ps1, ps2, psp.
Didn't like the original xbox.

I'd recommend the 360.

it's just better.

conzy

As someone who doesnt intend buying a 360 or PS3 for a long time.. or ever....

I would go for the Xbox 360, it has a much better catalog of games and its cheaper..

yallingup

The man seems to have made up his mind ... but as someone who plays most new releases on both machines, the 360 nearly always has the edge IMHO.

From graphics to online play, the PS3 always seems to be playing catch-up. Of all recent releases, only R6 Vegas on PS3 impressed me as being better-looking than on 360. This may or may not always be the case, obviously.

But the PS3 catalogue is looking woefully thin over the next few months when you whittle it down to both exclusive and must-have. MGS4? Delayed. Ratchet and Clank? Underwhelming. Etc. Etc.

Hardware issues (Blu-ray, overheating, etc) are all secondary (ie, solvable or irrelevant) and you should make your judgment on the games alone.

steviec

yallingup wrote: »

But the PS3 catalogue is looking woefully thin over the next few months when you whittle it down to both exclusive and must-have. MGS4? Delayed. Ratchet and Clank? Underwhelming. Etc. Etc.

And the 360 is looking positively anorexic over the next few months if you whittle it down to both exclusive and must-have. There's Mass Effect and, um, that would be it.

Of course you're ignoring a bunch of other exclusives (Uncharted? Haze? Little Big Planet?), plus I don't know where you heard R&C was anything other than brilliant.

And fortunately for both consoles there's dozens of excellent multiplatform titles coming.

James Forde

three words and one number


Metal Gear Solid 4



thats made up my mind

tman

bryanjf wrote: »

three words and one number


Metal Gear Solid 4



thats made up my mind

One more word for you;
"DELAYED"

conzy

bryanjf wrote: »

three words and one number


Metal Gear Solid 4



thats made up my mind

Can you say Q2 2008....... Then Q4 2008.... Then Q2 2009 etc...

And by the time it is actually released it will look outdated or the PS3 will be dead and Sony will be bankrupt

P.s PC!

Ciaran500

Lol, just reading this comic this morning

conzy

hehe the tunnel reminds me of HL2 ep2

Gran Hermano

conzymaher wrote: »

hehe the tunnel reminds me of HL2 ep2

HL2 EP2, great game and I'm enjoying it immensely at the mo' on the 360.
Another reason to get the 360 as you'll be waiting a while to play it on
the PS3

Gran Hermano

Gran Hermano wrote: »

HL2 EP2, great game and I'm enjoying it immensely at the mo' on the 360.
Another reason to get the 360 as you'll be waiting a while to play it on
the PS3

It's only two weeks away. Not that long.

conzy

Deleted User wrote: »

It's only two weeks away. Not that long.

But it is after the 360 which seems to be a trend.... and with the games for windows initiative you will see a lot more great titles such as Bioshock making their way to the 360 and not the PS3

Ciaran500

Deleted User wrote: »

It's only two weeks away. Not that long.

Its TBA from everything I've heard.