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360 or ps3 for xmas pressie?
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The above shows that the versions on 360 generally have a higher review, and people tend to buy multi-platform games on the 360 rather than the PS3 (to a much greater extent than the fact that there are more 360s out there than PS3s). Could it be that people are choosing the 360 version because its better on that? :eek:
i've been doing the opposite. free online play! plus my 360 is in my bedroom, which is two floors above the router. if the ps3 offers free play and built-in wifi, why should i bother with the €70 (how has the price not dropped yet?) wireless adapter, which has about €15 worth of technology in it.The PS3 is more reliable, but Microsoft have extended the warrenty to 3 years for over heating issues and I play in a small room with a launch console and don't notice the noise of the 360 once I'm playing.
there are some caviats to that warranty extension afaik. the console has to have been bought within a certain date, as shown by the serial... i think.
also, i have a launch 360 (i've had 4, technically
) and while it doesn't annoy me, to not hear the machine would worry me. you may want to get those ears checked out 
do you not think its a bit odd that everyone who has both is recommending the 360 over the ps3 by an absolute mile? no?
we've had people who bought a ps3 say it was a waste of money after one day. which means they got none of the experience from the machine and probably only played 2 games (resistance and motorstorm, or whatever bundles are going..).
the ps3's network has far superior games to xbla (not that xbla has bad games). the games aren't side-dishes, but for me are cheap main courses. calling all cars, flow, warhawk (though you can now get a disc version with a headset), super stardust hd et al are stunning games... but importantly, cheap.
as for "actual" games, PS3 is in its first year. it came out in Europe this year, march. you can't seriously expect it to have the same catalogue as the 360, which has some seriously quality titles. gears of war, halo3, PGR3 (haven't played the new one yet) etc. with some good stuff coming soon (mass effect etc.). but the ps3 has some great titles out now too, and a lot of the 360's stuff is on PS3 anyway. but the future for ps3 looks brighter for me then 360. killzone2 looks amazing, as does MGS4 and GT5 (the demo confirms that gameplay shows forza and pgr up big time). if you have youngins around, the 360 has very little to offer, while ps3 has begun momentum on the "family" gaming stuff with eye of judgement and the playstation eye games on PSN. singstar is on its way, no doubt followed by buzz.
what i'm saying here is that yeah, 360 has better games right now, and is cheaper, but ps3 has yet to come into its own. for the price you get a lot of cool stuff that are optional extras on 360 (and when you bring your 360 upto the ps3's capabilities with wifi, high def movies etc., it costs MORE then the ps3).
360 is a honda, cheap, fun and everyone loves you for it. but it'll break down in a heap and demand attention all the time; whereas the ps3 is a jaguar, expensive, fun, reliable and full of cool stuff, but ultimately it does the same job as the honda.0 -
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So you are one of the people who need the wireless adapter. Not all do so why should all pay?projectmayhem wrote: »i've been doing the opposite. free online play! plus my 360 is in my bedroom, which is two floors above the router. if the ps3 offers free play and built-in wifi, why should i bother with the €70 (how has the price not dropped yet?) wireless adapter, which has about €15 worth of technology in it.
Problem should basically be sorted in the newer 65nm models though.projectmayhem wrote: »there are some caviats to that warranty extension afaik. the console has to have been bought within a certain date, as shown by the serial... i think.
I'm on my 5th, maybe its just my surround sound drowning it outprojectmayhem wrote: »also, i have a launch 360 (i've had 4, technically) and while it doesn't annoy me, to not hear the machine would worry me. you may want to get those ears checked out 
But Xbox Live is far superior for actually playing games.projectmayhem wrote: »we've had people who bought a ps3 say it was a waste of money after one day. which means they got none of the experience from the machine and probably only played 2 games (resistance and motorstorm, or whatever bundles are going..).
the ps3's network has far superior games to xbla (not that xbla has bad games). the games aren't side-dishes, but for me are cheap main courses. calling all cars, flow, warhawk (though you can now get a disc version with a headset), super stardust hd et al are stunning games... but importantly, cheap.
In less than 3 weeks it will be out a year in the US and what great games have they that Europe doesn't?projectmayhem wrote: »as for "actual" games, PS3 is in its first year. it came out in Europe this year, march. you can't seriously expect it to have the same catalogue as the 360, which has some seriously quality titles. gears of war, halo3, PGR3 (haven't played the new one yet) etc. with some good stuff coming soon (mass effect etc.). but the ps3 has some great titles out now too, and a lot of the 360's stuff is on PS3 anyway. but the future for ps3 looks brighter for me then 360. killzone2 looks amazing, as does MGS4 and GT5 (the demo confirms that gameplay shows forza and pgr up big time). if you have youngins around, the 360 has very little to offer, while ps3 has begun momentum on the "family" gaming stuff with eye of judgement and the playstation eye games on PSN. singstar is on its way, no doubt followed by buzz.
Xbox has Viva Pinata and Viva Pinata:Party Animals is out in a few weeks. Scene It is out soon which looks similar to Buzz in some ways. Kameo was a good game for kids (as well as adults). My little sister is my guinea pig for these and she loves them, almost as much as MySims on her DS
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Because mass producing them in every box adds all of about a fiver to the price, while charging €70 for the adaptor seperately is an absolute rip off, and a hidden cost that many people won't account for until it's too late and they've bought one. I'd imagine more than 50% of users would need a wireless adaptor, how many people run ethernet cable to their sitting room?So you are one of the people who need the wireless adapter. Not all do so why should all pay?Problem should basically be sorted in the newer 65nm models though.
Which is still hit or miss as to whether you get the right batch or not. Plus the gfx is the main culprit, and that hasn't been changed, so the jury is still out here.
I've noticed little difference. F1CE or FIFA or Motorstorm have been no more laggy or more difficult to get online than PGR or CoD on 360. Then I don't play FPS games religiously and I have no concern with being in a clan or whatever so maybe if I did I'd appreciate whatever the hell it is that the 360 friends list apparently does better. I do probably enjoy the PS3 online experience more because there's less adolescents screaming abuse though (since nobody has mics, which can be a bad thing of course if you're big on your team games).
But Xbox Live is far superior for actually playing games.In less than 3 weeks it will be out a year in the US and what great games have they that Europe doesn't?
Just Ratchet & Clank I think. The point is (I've made it over and over again) that the PS3 has a very good games catalogue. It's just that most of these games are multiplatform so people ignore them. But by the same token, all of the best 360 games in its first year were multiplatform titles (GRAW, CoD2, Oblivion), it just had the advantage of being the only next gen platform at the time. Comparing like for like, the PS3 catalogue is vastly stronger right now than the 360 catalogue after 1 year, and more importantly there are many major exclusive PS3 franchises on the way. There is very little (exclusive) left to come for the 360 - after Mass Effect Bioware are going multiplatform, Bizzare have gone multiplatform, Epic have gone multiplatform, Capcom are multiplatform.... Even Bungie have parted ways with MS so only time will tell how loyal they stay. On the other hand Team Ico, Polyphony, Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Studio Liverpool, Studio London and countless other Sony first party studios will only make Playstation games. MS don't have much in the way of quality first party studios of that calibre.Xbox has Viva Pinata and Viva Pinata:Party Animals is out in a few weeks. Scene It is out soon which looks similar to Buzz in some ways. Kameo was a good game for kids (as well as adults). My little sister is my guinea pig for these and she loves them, almost as much as MySims on her DS
Why buy a 360 for a Buzz rip off when you can just play Buzz? Buzz and Singstar are nicely established. Whether or not people will upgrade to a PS3 for the next in the franchise is another matter entirely though, I don't see much point in buying any next gen console for this kind of game, the PS2 still ticks all the boxes there.0 -
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So you are one of the people who need the wireless adapter. Not all do so why should all pay?
that's kind of a weak argument. you could say that about rumble, wirelessness etc. etc. they could remove so much stuff to keep costs way down (a-la wii, like taking out DVD playback). but even so, the peripheral "extras" on 360 are priced extortionately, which is where MS make money back.But Xbox Live is far superior for actually playing games.
for gameplay itself it's the same. the thing is that PSN doesn't have the same attractions (match making, achievements etc.), but that stuff will change over time.In less than 3 weeks it will be out a year in the US and what great games have they that Europe doesn't?
after the first year the only things 360 had that were system sellers were gears and oblivion, one of which is now on ps3 anyway, and both (come november) will be on pc.Xbox has Viva Pinata and Viva Pinata:Party Animals is out in a few weeks. Scene It is out soon which looks similar to Buzz in some ways. Kameo was a good game for kids (as well as adults). My little sister is my guinea pig for these and she loves them, almost as much as MySims on her DS
you can't compare viva pinata to the games i listed for ps3, or the sims. viva pinata was bought by your sister and 12 ex rare employees worldwide, despite having a tv show to back it. the 360's market is to "hardcore" shooter fans, for the most part.Halo Wars, Splinter Cell Conviction, Banjo-Kazooie 3, Alan Wake, Fable 2, Huxely, Left 4 Dead, Too Human, All Points Bulletin?
splinter cell and banjo kazooie you've got me on, but isn't alan wake out on PC too? halo wars looks a bit "meh" and l4d is a PC game for me! although fable2 will be the greatest creation ever, god will cry because of it (so we're told
)Bioware have said Microsoft will be "a long-term partner on Mass Effect." btw
yeah i'm going to call biowares bluff on that. it was true, and chances are mass effect will only be on 360/PC (maybe)... but sequels will probably find their way on every machine in the world, including DS. EA are now the owners of bioware, and microsoft (afaik) do not own the "mass effect" IP, unlike "halo".0 -
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This can be done to death.
Xbox360
Cheaper
More games
Great exclusives already available - more exclusives in the pipeline
Rumble feature
Tried and tested on-line (Xbox Live)
Comfortable controllers
PS3
Blueray included
More than 4 controllers can be synced
Some exclusives out already - more to follow
Tilt contoller
Free online
Both consoles have Fifa etc. Both have backwards compatibility issues.
Simple answer imo is the 360 is better now. The PS3 may be better in the future but lets wait and see before making that claim.
Oh and Transformers isn't available on Blueray 0 -
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