Champions League - Matchday 4

cson

The European Cup returns to our screens this evening. Big game for Pool, could be out of the competition if they fail to win tonight, and despite what Rafa might say, getting knocked out at this stage would be a big blow. Elsewhere Chelseas resurgence should continue and both Man Utd and Arsenal should cement qualification in 1st place. Its squeaky bum time for Celtic though.

Tuesday 6th November
Shalke v Chelsea 19:45 Chelsea
FC Porto v Marseille 19:45 Porto
Olympiiakos v Real Madrid 19:45 Real
Celtic v Benfica 19:45 Draw
Shakhtar Donetsk v Milan 19:45 Milan
Lazio v Werder Bremen 19:45 Lazio
Valencia v Rosenborg 19:45 Valencia
Liverpool v Besiktas 19:45 Liverpool

Wednesday 7th November
Lyon v VfB Stuttgart 19:45 Lyon
Barcelona v Rangers 19:45 Barca
Manchester United v Dynamo Kiev 19:45 Man Utd
Sporting v Roma 19:45 Roma
Internazionale v CSKA Moscow 19:45 Inter
Fenerbahce v PSV Eindhoven 19:45 Fener
Slavia Prague v Arsenal 19:45 Arsenal
Steaua Bucharest v Sevilla 19:45 Postponed

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cson wrote: »

Big game for Pool, could be out of the competition if they fail to win tonight, and despite what Rafa might say, getting knocked out at this stage would be a big blow.

Watch the Liverpool fans rolling out the "We're concentrating on the league" pishpash if they do get knocked out. It will be squirm inducing. Believe me.

Tuesday 6th November
Shalke v Chelsea 19:45 Draw
FC Porto v Marseille 19:45 Marseille
Olympiiakos v Real Madrid 19:45 Real
Celtic v Benfica 19:45 Benfica
Shakhtar Donetsk v Milan 19:45 Shakhtar
Lazio v Werder Bremen 19:45 Bremen
Valencia v Rosenborg 19:45 Valencia
Liverpool v Besiktas 19:45 Draw

Wednesday 7th November
Lyon v VfB Stuttgart 19:45 Stuttgart
Barcelona v Rangers 19:45 Draw
Manchester United v Dynamo Kiev 19:45 Draw
Sporting v Roma 19:45 Roma
Internazionale v CSKA Moscow 19:45 Inter
Fenerbahce v PSV Eindhoven 19:45 Fener
Slavia Prague v Arsenal 19:45 Draw
Steaua Bucharest v Sevilla 19:45 Postponed - why?

mike65

We're concentrating on the league! There, saved you a wait.

Mike.

cson

DesF wrote: »

Watch the Liverpool fans rolling out the "We're concentrating on the league" pishpash if they do get knocked out. It will be squirm inducing. Believe me.

Something similar happened before if my memory serves me right... All things said though, they need to get the finger out in the league or they could find themselves somewhat adrift, although losing Torres, Alonso and Agger would hurt any team.

As far as I know the Steau - Seville game is called off.

Mad Dog

Tuesday 6th November
Shalke v Chelsea 19:45 Chelsea
FC Porto v Marseille 19:45 Porto
Olympiiakos v Real Madrid 19:45 Real
Celtic v Benfica 19:45 Celtic
Shakhtar Donetsk v Milan 19:45 Milan
Lazio v Werder Bremen 19:45 Lazio
Valencia v Rosenborg 19:45 Valencia
Liverpool v Besiktas 19:45 Liverpool

Wednesday 7th November
Lyon v VfB Stuttgart 19:45 Lyon
Barcelona v Rangers 19:45 Barca
Manchester United v Dynamo Kiev 19:45 Man Ure
Sporting v Roma 19:45 Roma
Internazionale v CSKA Moscow 19:45 Inter
Fenerbahce v PSV Eindhoven 19:45 Fenerbahce
Slavia Prague v Arsenal 19:45 Arsenal
Steaua Bucharest v Sevilla 19:45 Postponed

DSB

Tuesday 6th November
Shalke v Chelsea 19:45 Draw
FC Porto v Marseille 19:45 Porto
Olympiiakos v Real Madrid 19:45 Real
Celtic v Benfica 19:45 Draw
Shakhtar Donetsk v Milan 19:45 Milan
Lazio v Werder Bremen 19:45 Lazio
Valencia v Rosenborg 19:45 Valencia
Liverpool v Besiktas 19:45 Liverpool

Wednesday 7th November
Lyon v VfB Stuttgart 19:45 Draw
Barcelona v Rangers 19:45 Barca
Manchester United v Dynamo Kiev 19:45 Man Utd
Sporting v Roma 19:45 Draw
Internazionale v CSKA Moscow 19:45 Inter
Fenerbahce v PSV Eindhoven 19:45 Draw
Slavia Prague v Arsenal 19:45 Arsenal
Steaua Bucharest v Sevilla 19:45 Postponed

Necronomicon

cson wrote: »

As far as I know the Steau - Seville game is called off.

Why? I can't find anything online.

bohsman

Milan Chelsea and Madrid look 3 great bets all around even money.

PHB

I don't think Milan is that good a bet ot be honest, they've been off kilter lately.

Besiktas at 11/1? Worth a punt?

Nunu

bohsman wrote: »

Milan Chelsea and Madrid look 3 great bets all around even money.

The odds aren't appealing enough to back Milan away to Shaktar - they absolutely destroyed Celtic in their first home game...best footabll I've seen in the competition this year.

I'm going for Valencia / Celtic / Liverpool treble.....but I sort of hope Liverpool let me down:D

Nunu

Wenger leaves Toure / Fabregas / Rosicky / Hleb at home.
Get your money on Slavia Prague...I got 11/2

ROCKMAN

Tuesday 6th November
Shalke v Chelsea 19:45 Chelsea
FC Porto v Marseille 19:45 Porto
Olympiiakos v Real Madrid 19:45 Real
Celtic v Benfica 19:45 Celtic
Shakhtar Donetsk v Milan 19:45 Milan
Lazio v Werder Bremen 19:45 Draw
Valencia v Rosenborg 19:45 Valencia
Liverpool v Besiktas 19:45 Liverpool

Wednesday 7th November
Lyon v VfB Stuttgart 19:45 Lyon
Barcelona v Rangers 19:45 Barca
Manchester United v Dynamo Kiev 19:45 Man Utd
Sporting v Roma 19:45 Draw
Internazionale v CSKA Moscow 19:45 Inter
Fenerbahce v PSV Eindhoven 19:45 Fener
Slavia Prague v Arsenal 19:45 Arsenal
Steaua Bucharest v Sevilla 19:45 Postponed

Mr Alan

PHB wrote: »

Besiktas at 11/1? Worth a punt?

No :mad:

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Tuesday 6th November
Shalke v Chelsea 19:45 Chelsea
FC Porto v Marseille 19:45 Draw
Olympiiakos v Real Madrid 19:45 Real
Celtic v Benfica 19:45 Draw
Shakhtar Donetsk v Milan 19:45 Milan
Lazio v Werder Bremen 19:45 Lazio
Valencia v Rosenborg 19:45 Valencia
Liverpool v Besiktas 19:45 Liverpool

Wednesday 7th November
Lyon v VfB Stuttgart 19:45 Draw
Barcelona v Rangers 19:45 Barca (hammering)
Manchester United v Dynamo Kiev 19:45 Mancs
Sporting v Roma 19:45 Roma
Internazionale v CSKA Moscow 19:45 Inter
Fenerbahce v PSV Eindhoven 19:45 Fener
Slavia Prague v Arsenal 19:45 Arsenal
Steaua Bucharest v Sevilla 19:45 Postponed

LostinBlanch

Touchy there Alan. :eek:

11/1 looks like good odds to me.

I'll be watching this game with interest, just hope it's a better spectacle than the Blackburn game.

PauloMN

Tuesday 6th November
Shalke v Chelsea 19:45 Chelsea
FC Porto v Marseille 19:45 Porto
Olympiiakos v Real Madrid 19:45 Draw
Celtic v Benfica 19:45 Celtic
Shakhtar Donetsk v Milan 19:45 Draw
Lazio v Werder Bremen 19:45 Lazio
Valencia v Rosenborg 19:45 Valencia
Liverpool v Besiktas 19:45 Liverpool

Wednesday 7th November
Lyon v VfB Stuttgart 19:45 Lyon
Barcelona v Rangers 19:45 Barca
Manchester United v Dynamo Kiev 19:45 Utd
Sporting v Roma 19:45 Sporting
Internazionale v CSKA Moscow 19:45 Inter
Fenerbahce v PSV Eindhoven 19:45 Fenerbahce
Slavia Prague v Arsenal 19:45 Arsenal
Steaua Bucharest v Sevilla 19:45 Postponed

DerKaiser

Here's my predictions for what it's worth

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Tuesday 6th November
Shalke v Chelsea 19:45 Chelsea
FC Porto v Marseille 19:45 Marseille
Olympiiakos v Real Madrid 19:45 Real
Celtic v Benfica 19:45 Benfica
Shakhtar Donetsk v Milan 19:45 Milan
Lazio v Werder Bremen 19:45 Lazio
Valencia v Rosenborg 19:45 Valencia
Liverpool v Besiktas 19:45 Besiktas

Wednesday 7th November
Lyon v VfB Stuttgart 19:45 Lyon
Barcelona v Rangers 19:45 Barca
Manchester United v Dynamo Kiev 19:45 Mancs
Sporting v Roma 19:45 Roma
Internazionale v CSKA Moscow 19:45 Inter
Fenerbahce v PSV Eindhoven 19:45 PSV
Slavia Prague v Arsenal 19:45 Arsenal
Steaua Bucharest v Sevilla 19:45 Postponed

Liverpool to go out tonight,

Mr Alan

LostinBlanch wrote: »

Touchy there Alan. :eek:

ah i was only having a laugh

wonder wat odds you'd get on Liverpool doing a CL & PL double?

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Mr Alan wrote: »

ah i was only having a laugh

wonder wat odds you'd get on Liverpool doing a CL & PL double?

I'll give you 1000/1

Mr Alan

i dont want your money betty.... you'd be forced to sell your computer and then you'd no longer to be able to entertain me with you hardline EL views

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Tell you what Al.

Take the bet, but bet 2c with me.

That means a score to you if they do it.

BUT, you have to send me the 2c as soon as Liverpool can no longer achieve the CL/PL Double.

PHB

I like it Arsenal losing isn't a bad bet with those people left at home, good spot.

Mr Alan

DesF wrote: »

Tell you what Al.

Take the bet, but bet 2c with me.

That means a score to you if they do it.

BUT, you have to send me the 2c as soon as Liverpool can no longer achieve the CL/PL Double.

Deal.

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Mr Alan wrote: »

Deal.

http://www.gwipl.org/images/handshake.jpg



This will be the second time I won money on this forum.

The last time I won a score, but I think taking your 2c will be sweeter.

Mr Alan

wat did ya win for before? who were ya betting with?

cson

PHB wrote: »

I like it Arsenal losing isn't a bad bet with those people left at home, good spot.

Our kids will be well able for it. Slavia are nowhere near as good as the Newky team they beat earlier in the CC.

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Mr Alan wrote: »

wat did ya win for before? who were ya betting with?

I won't name names, but I won a score off someone when Ireland were playing away to Slovakia and the Czechs, I said Ireland wouldn't get more than two points I'm such a traitor.

KdjaCL

Shaktar on tv with pool on interweb, hopefully goal flash will work tonight.


kdjac

PHB

Am I right in saying that,
If Porto beat Marseille, and then both Porto and Marseille beat Besiktas that Liverpool can't qualify.

PHB

Schalke are so injury hit that they can only name 5 subs. That's nuts!

homerjay2005

liverpool v besiktas looks a good game so far, 3 half chances in it already.

emc2

yea the pool match is good so far....I am watch that and have http://www.activescores.com/ open.

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Crouchinho!!

PHB

lol, that Crouch goal was hilarious. what sort of tackle is that from the defensive midfielder.

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PHB wrote: »

lol, that Crouch goal was hilarious. what sort of tackle is that from the defensive midfielder.

It was an assist

Voronin did some good work.

Crouch's determination after the save was decent though.

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Off the line by Besiktas!

Guy:Incognito

Great through ball by the defender.




OOO, Riise has a great header cleared off the line as I type.

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Do you want a text message, or will I leave it?

KdjaCL

Milan gonna get a red card soon.

Some nasty tackles, shaktar are bleedin awful at the back but going forward they are aweeome.

I think Shaktar Donestk translates into newcastle in english


kdjac

PHB

That's Crouch with confidence. Who takes that shot on

Guy:Incognito

DesF wrote: »

Do you want a text message, or will I leave it?

Better off waiting till it's 1-2.:)


Movement isnt great from the players when someone has the ball, no one is moving off markers and looking for the ball. Options are very limited for the player with the ball.

emc2

porto 1-0 up

PHB

So am I right in saying that if Porto win, then if Porto and Marseille beat Besiktas then Liverpool can't quality?

Liverpool funny defending again, this time not involving Hyypia.

Liverpool are gona win here, no doubt about that anymore.

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That Benayoun goal has been coming.

He's been playing well tonight.

Guy:Incognito

2-0 Benayoun.

Great quick thinking and throw from Riise, how many yards did he steal on that though?:) I thought he was going to keep running and taking a corner.:D

machiavellianme

Arent Marseille only on 7? So if they lose, they'll still be on 7 and assuming they beat Besiktas, they'll be on 10. Liverpool need to win all 3 to make 10. Liverpool can still go through on goal difference if Porto win tonight and both beat Besiktas, although it'll be very difficult. Well thats my understanding of it. Maybe I'm wrong?

DSB

PHB wrote: »

So am I right in saying that if Porto win, then if Porto and Marseille beat Besiktas then Liverpool can't quality?

Liverpool funny defending again, this time not involving Hyypia.

Liverpool are gona win here, no doubt about that anymore.

No that would be wrong. If Liverpool beat Porto by a decent amount they can qualify.

emc2

rosenborg 1-0 up away from home

emc2

celtic 1-0 up McGeady on the stroke of half time

homerjay2005

chelsea v shalke 0-0 at HT, alot of chances, more so to the shalke

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emc2 wrote: »

celtic 1-0 up McGeady on the stroke of half time

Jaysis.

Kulgan

PHB wrote: »

So am I right in saying that if Porto win, then if Porto and Marseille beat Besiktas then Liverpool can't quality?

Liverpool funny defending again, this time not involving Hyypia.

Liverpool are gona win here, no doubt about that anymore.

No in this scenario Liverpool would have to beat Porto and then they would have to go to Marseille and win by two goals to be 100% sure of qualifying. Or 2-1 3-2 etc would see them go through on away goals.

If they won 1-0 it would come down to overall group goal difference .

My own optimistic prediction was for Liverpool to win their last three matches and Marseille to only pick up one point in their last three, that being Besiktas away.

As i type this Marseille have equalised