Ireland Squad vs Wales

Bounty Hunter

Republic of Ireland squad for Euro 2008 qualifying group D match against Wales in Cardiff on Saturday, 17 November:

Given (Newcastle), J Murphy (Scunthorpe), C Doyle (Birmingham); Finnan (Liverpool), Kelly (Birmingham), Dunne (Man City), McShane (Sunderland), A O'Brien (Bolton), J O'Brien (Bolton), O'Shea (Man Utd); McGeady (Celtic), Carsley (Everton), Douglas (Leeds), S Reid (Blackburn), A Reid (Charlton), Miller (Sunderland), Hunt (Reading), Kilbane (Wigan); Keane (Tottenham), D Murphy (Sunderland), Stokes (Sunderland), K Doyle (Reading).
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good to see S Reid back. Stokes & Andy O'Brien recalled while J. Murphy from Scunthorpe gets called up as backup. Important game if we want to finish 3rd .

discuss

eirebhoy

Goalkeepers
Shay Given - Newcastle United
Joe Murphy - Scunthorpe United
Colin Doyle - Birmingham City

Defenders
Steve Finnan - Liverpool
Stephen Kelly - Birmingham City
Richard Dunne - Manchester City
Paul McShane - Sunderland
Andy O’Brien - Bolton Wanderers
Joey O’Brien - Bolton Wanderers
John O’Shea - Manchester United

Midfielders
Aiden McGeady - Glasgow Celtic
Lee Carsley - Everton
Jonathon Douglas - Leeds United
Steven Reid - Blackburn Rovers
Andy Reid - Charlton Athletic
Liam Miller - Sunderland
Stephen Hunt - Reading
Kevin Kilbane - Wigan Athletic

Strikers
Robbie Keane - Tottenham Hotspur
Daryl Murphy - Sunderland
Anthony Stokes - Sunderland
Kevin Doyle - Reading

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In:
Joe Murphy
Andy O’Brien
Steven Reid
Anthony Stokes

Out:
Nick Colgan
Alan O'Brien
Darren Potter
Stephen Elliott
Andy Keogh
Shane Long (suspended)
Stephen Carr (retired)

Dave!

And the manager is........??? lol

Nalz

Steven Reid - good to see him back!

Mr Alan

i hate stephen ireland, i really do

Xavi6

Can't argue with the out list (well obviously Long will be back in). Still no place for Weso, though I don't hold out much hope.

Sizzler

Wheres John Joe O'Toole

Xavi6

Thread merge anyone?

prendy

i think its a strong squad which is annoying coz it might as well be a freindly!
if ireland was anyway mentally stable he'd be the first name on the team by now!

eirebhoy

Well Givens has certainly put his row with Stokes behind him. He must have been impressed with him for the U21s a couple of weeks ago. I thought he looked good against England.

Nunu

eirebhoy wrote: »

Goalkeepers
Shay Given - Newcastle United
Joe Murphy - Scunthorpe United
Colin Doyle - Birmingham City

Defenders
Steve Finnan - Liverpool
Stephen Kelly - Birmingham City
Richard Dunne - Manchester City
Paul McShane - Sunderland
Andy O’Brien - Bolton Wanderers
Joey O’Brien - Bolton Wanderers
John O’Shea - Manchester United

Midfielders
Aiden McGeady - Glasgow Celtic
Lee Carsley - Everton
Jonathon Douglas - Leeds United
Steven Reid - Blackburn Rovers
Andy Reid - Charlton Athletic
Liam Miller - Sunderland
Stephen Hunt - Reading
Kevin Kilbane - Wigan Athletic

Strikers
Robbie Keane - Tottenham Hotspur
Daryl Murphy - Sunderland
Anthony Stokes - Sunderland
Kevin Doyle - Reading

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In:
Joe Murphy
Andy O’Brien
Steven Reid
Anthony Stokes

Out:
Nick Colgan
Alan O'Brien
Darren Potter
Stephen Elliott
Andy Keogh
Shane Long (suspended)
Stephen Carr (retired)

About ****ing time!
I've nothing against the lad but he has no place in a full Irish squad at the moment and his inclusion by Staunton (and Devlin:rolleyes:) stunk to be honest.

Interesting that Givens included Stokes at the expense of others. Stokes has messed hiom around in the past.

Bounty Hunter

Xavi6 wrote: »

Thread merge anyone?

should do, didnt notice the other thread when i posted this, if it existed yet.

Bounty Hunter

bellamy is out for the game

emc2

Any one else think that Don Givens shouldn't be let near the full senior squad and that we'd be better off letting one of the FAI tea ladies look after the team for this match?

_blank_

No Weso is an absolute thundering disgrace when dross like Douglas is in the squad.

smackbunnybaby

even when staunton was experimenting with young players Glenn Whelan was never called into the full squad

BaZmO*

DesF wrote: »

No Weso is an absolute thundering disgrace when dross like Douglas is in the squad.

And considering that the match means absolutely nothing too.

Eirebhoy should you not have (again) after Stephen Carr?

Seaneh

No whelan? what does the lad have to do to get a chance?

GuanYin

Merged

Mr Alan wrote: »

i hate stephen ireland, i really do

What the hell has that got to do with anything on this thread?

Mr Alan

The fact that he should be in the squad also?

~Rebel~

The question is, did Givens contact him about it?

homerjay2005

DesF wrote: »

No Weso is an absolute thundering disgrace when dross like Douglas is in the squad.

when i saw the squad, i just knew this post would be here! totally agree desmond, cant believe that douglas is near an irish squad. btw, how is weso playing lately? as good as last season?

GuanYin

There are better Irish players in the lower leagues than Douglas.

Still, I think we can put 11 players out that should compete with most teams.

MrJoeSoap

psi wrote: »

There are better Irish players in the lower leagues than Douglas.

Still, I think we can put 11 players out that should compete with most teams.

Does the Eircom League count as a lower league as well?

I think there must be some sort of a typo in the first two posts, Wes Hoolahan isn't there.

GuanYin

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Does the Eircom League count as a lower league as well?

I guess it must

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psi wrote: »

I guess it must

TROLL!

Post reported

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homerjay2005 wrote: »

btw, how is weso playing lately? as good as last season?

Better.

Pigman II

Glad Andy O'Brien is back. Hope he starts instead of that waste of space McShane.

Sizzler

Seaneh wrote: »

No whelan? what does the lad have to do to get a chance?

Again where is John Joe O'Toole, disgrace he hasnt been picked! Do we boardsies have to do all the scouting for the FAI

EDIT: He's in the under 21 squad.

An Citeog

Pigman II wrote: »

Glad Andy O'Brien is back. Hope he starts instead of that waste of space McShane.

Yeah, because Andy O'Brien can defend! McShane is already a far better player than O'Brien ever was and himself and Dunne are the best we have.

Pigman II

An Citeog wrote: »

Yeah, because Andy O'Brien can defend! McShane is already a far better player than O'Brien ever was and himself and Dunne are the best we have.

McShane is the ginger Phil Babb. I saw him against Cyprus and he was flip-flopping around the place like John Kerry at a policy debate.

O'Brien and Dunne at the back were about the only thing Kerr got right during his time as manager and the sooner they're working together the sooner we can draw a line on the defence and start concentrating on roping in some decent midfielders to replace the dead wood we currently posess.

eirebhoy

Pigman II wrote: »

McShane is the ginger Phil Babb.

Phil Babb always needed an organiser beside him. McShane can play beside the brain dead John O'Shea. McShane is an excellent reader of the game. All you need to do is look at his games against Koller and Berbatov just to see that. He's definitely prone to a roasting from a nippy Bellamy/Miller/McDonald type player (sorry, thinking Celtic atm) but he'll get better with experience. Bellamy embarrassed Vidic and Cannavaro has struggles against direct players too but you certainly can't question their reading of the game.

Dunne and McShane is simply miles better than Dunne and O'Brien. Dunne still isn't the greatest organiser in the world. O'Brien needs an organiser beside him. Look at how O'Brien did beside O'Shea vs Holland. McShane doesn't necessarily need an organiser and himself and Dunne compliment each other very well.

Dunne at 21 would have been a bombscare beside John O'Shea too.

btw - O'Brien and Cunningham was Kerrs central defensive pair. Cunningham would get the best out of anyone and it was an excellent partnership.

ctrl-alt-delete

Can't see why Steven Reid was included, he is only back after a year out injured and has played an hour for Blackburn Reserves,

I don't think Mr. Hughes will be too happy considering he ruled out rushing Reid back to replace the injured Savage and possibly injured Mokoena.

As others have said i can't see why Douglas is included ahead of others.

Xavi6

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

Can't see why Steven Reid was included, he is only back after a year out injured and has played an hour for Blackburn Reserves,

I don't think Mr. Hughes will be too happy considering he ruled out rushing Reid back to replace the injured Savage and possibly injured Mokoena.

As others have said i can't see why Douglas is included ahead of others.

Of course Steven Reid should be included. On his day he's the best midfielder we have. The game is meaningless really so it's no harm to reintroduce a guy back into the set up after so long away. Sure they mightn't even play him if he's not fully right. We're gonna need him for the next campaign so get him involved now.

loyatemu

so Carr has retired again? Did he actually play for us between his first retirement and this latest one?

kraggy

Why is Alan Lee not in the squad?

8 goals this season. Scored again at the weekend.

Most importantly, he's a regular scorer. Not sporadic.

ctrl-alt-delete

Xavi6 wrote: »

The game is meaningless really so it's no harm to reintroduce a guy back into the set up after so long away. Sure they mightn't even play him if he's not fully right.

He Isn't fully right, that's the whole point. And the injury he has just recovered from was picked up in training - he'd have a rating of 20 in injury proneness in Football Manager.

The fact that the game is meaningless is my whole point on why he shouldn't be there.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him pick up a slight knock for blackburn and have to pull out. It's not like if he doesn't turn up now the next manager will overlook him.

shane86

~Rebel~ wrote: »

The question is, did Givens contact him about it?

He didnt say explicitly, but he essentially indicated the situation was that Ireland knew there was a game coming up, he didnt make himself available and Givens wasnt going to go chasing him.

Nunu

Givens was at the City v Sunderland game. Obviously there was no inclination on Stephen Irelands part to have a chat with him.
I think Givens has handled this well. The onus is on Ireland to declare himself available again and he would have known Don was at the game but chose not to seek him out.

Nalz

loyatemu wrote: »

so Carr has retired again? Did he actually play for us between his first retirement and this latest one?

well he did against Holland anyway cas he got the height of abuse in Lansdowne road by a few sketches. Think he played in Germany and in Cyprus too

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Trilla wrote: »

well he did against Holland anyway cas he got the height of abuse in Lansdowne road by a few sketches. Think he played in Germany and in Cyprus too

TF are sketches?

emc2

Mark Hughes has said that there's not a chance Stephen Reid will be released to play for Ireland.

Nunu

Seems Keogh wasn't dropped.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/wolverhampton_wanderers/7083232.stm

Wolves striker Andy Keogh is to have minor surgery on his groin during the upcoming international break.
Keogh has been omitted for the Republic of Ireland squad for the forthcoming game against Wales and will use the time off to have the operation.

He told the club's website: "I think the gaffer had a word with the Irish people to let them know I wouldn't be available for selection.

"I should be out in a day so I don't envisage missing Wolves matches."

The_B_Man

ya sure Hughes isnt releasin S.Reid because hes Welsh?

BaZmO*

Wolves striker Andy Keogh is to have minor surgery on his groin during the upcoming international break.
Keogh has been omitted for the Republic of Ireland squad for the forthcoming game against Wales and will use the time off to have the operation.

He told the club's website: "I think the gaffer had a word with the Irish people to let them know I wouldn't be available for selection.

"I should be out in a day so I don't envisage missing Wolves matches."

I thought he got the boot?

eirebhoy

Who, Mick?

BaZmO*

There's only one Gaffer!!!

Pigman II

Thank god for birth control.

ctrl-alt-delete

emc2 wrote: »

Mark Hughes has said that there's not a chance Stephen Reid will be released to play for Ireland.

As much as i expected, and rightly so.

Bounty Hunter

Bale is now out of the Welsh squad as well as Bellamy and Koumas is a doubt afer missing Wigans last game.

should be a fairley weak welsh side

Xavi6

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Bale is now out of the Welsh squad as well as Bellamy and Koumas is a doubt afer missing Wigans last game.

should be a fairley weak welsh side

Bit like ours so