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Delaying paying VRT until new year
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How's the view from up there?
No, they can't. They'd have to get a warrant to seize anything which sits on private property.
yes they can. they can go onto your property and seize your car. if you dont believe me check it out yourself. i know...
will someone please inform this person......:D0 -
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nogoodnamesleft wrote: »Im am going to pay the tax but im going to make it easier on my posket as possible. For those of ye cribbin about not paying VRT etc..etc.
when i buy my cars i have to pay VRT so why shouldnt everyone else. the law is for everyone not just a select few..
the discussion here as posted by the op is to seek advice on reducing the amount due to the revenue of VRT ..
I ASK NOW THAT THE MODS CLOSE THIS THREAD.:eek:0 -
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I know somebody who had their UK import seized and impounded by Customs. He was stopped at a checkpoint one day by them and told to pay the VRT and have the car on Irish plates within 5 working days. He put it on the long finger and low and behold he was sitting down watching tv one afternoon and heard lots of noise outside his door. He went outside to investigate and found his car being put on a transporter. Customs officers were there in their clearly market uniforms along with 2 Gardai. He was told where he could get the car back and how much it would cost. He ended up paying VRT, a fine or penalty and an impound fee.
Customs do have more power than the Gardai and can seize the car on private property if they see fit. the Gardai are there as witnesses in making sure they are acting within their powers and the law in the event of a dispute.
exactly.. i hear that they read boards.ie posts too
i have noticed an increase in the number of cars driving round on uk plates here..
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exactly.. i hear that they read boards.ie posts too
i have noticed an increase in the number of cars driving round on uk plates here..:p
That's not to say though they are all avoiding VRT. Some could simply be tourists visiting the country or working here on short term contracts, which is not unheard of.0 -
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let me be more specific, have noticed older cars, here for ages and ages on uk plates, with expired uk tax discs in windows.
I've noticed countless cars here on Irish plates, with expired tx/NCT/insurance dics in windows.
It's not just Irish who drive untaxed/uninsured y'know, a lot more Brits do (population/number of cars on UK roads in that situation vs total population/number of cars in IE) and some of those do take ferries as well from time to time.
Moral of the story - look thy neighbour's eye and all thatambro25 : No, they can't. They'd have to get a warrant to seize anything which sits on private property.
esel : Re seizing car from private property: Think you're wrong there!
ambro25 :Think you want to substantiate somewhat there!
No mate, as you made the claim, I'd say it is you who has to substantiate somewhat.
Nope, what car made the (very generalistic) claim, I substantiated that they'd have to get a warrant to seize anything on private property.
You then asserted that "I was wrong" (no more), then so did what car (again, no more) - I'll accept your refutal of my substantiations if you can substantiate yours, but so far, all both of you have just done is claim that "I'm wrong". Way I see it, ball's in your camp, Champ
The situation pointed out by bazz26 is different, in that proof was adduced by law enforcement that the car had to be VRT'd (under applicable law). In that case, it's not allegations anymore and there is a due cause of action by Customs. That is vastly different from asserting "they can take your care on your drive!" into the wind. And I'll refer you to my earlier post re. non-residents and cars not used on public roads.
Now, since there's already been countless threads on the subject in here, I'll not bother with this one anymore, but I felt compelled to correct some of the usual broad-brush statements trotted out by the habitual brigade, so on that particular point, apologies to the OP for the OT stuff.0 -
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MercMad wrote:Interesting point above, I haven't given it much though, why IS there a 6 month rule anyway ?
Precisely because (misquoting you) "others should be allowed that time and residents NOT"
More seriously, I suppose it's a workaround for validating "their" argument that it is a registration tax and not an import tax 0 -
I know somebody who had their UK import seized and impounded by Customs. He was stopped at a checkpoint one day by them and told to pay the VRT and have the car on Irish plates within 5 working days. He put it on the long finger and low and behold he was sitting down watching tv one afternoon and heard lots of noise outside his door. He went outside to investigate and found his car being put on a transporter. Customs officers were there in their clearly market uniforms along with 2 Gardai. He was told where he could get the car back and how much it would cost. He ended up paying VRT, a fine or penalty and an impound fee.
Customs do have more power than the Gardai and can seize the car on private property if they see fit. the Gardai are there as witnesses in making sure they are acting within their powers and the law in the event of a dispute.No mate, as you made the claim, I'd say it is you who has to substantiate somewhat.
Nope, what car made the (very generalistic) claim, I substantiated that they'd have to get a warrant to seize anything on private property.
You then asserted that "I was wrong" (no more), then so did what car (again, no more) - I'll accept your refutal of my substantiations if you can substantiate yours, but so far, all both of you have just done is claim that "I'm wrong". Way I see it, ball's in your camp, Champ
The situation pointed out by bazz26 is different, in that proof was adduced by law enforcement that the car had to be VRT'd (under applicable law). In that case, it's not allegations anymore and there is a due cause of action by Customs. That is vastly different from asserting "they can take your care on your drive!" into the wind. And I'll refer you to my earlier post re. non-residents and cars not used on public roads.
Your Alice-in-Wonderland Humpty Dumpty logic is revealing: "When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less." Your say your claim is a substantiation, whereas my counter-claim is just a claim? Nice one. bazz26 explained the reason for the Garda presence at the seizure of the car. No warrant was needed. I know this, but I'm not going to bother proving it to you, as you 'know' different. I accept ned78's point in this regard, however, this does not validate your claim. Not going to bother replying on this matter, so don't bother embarrassing yourself more. Do some research, and prove yourself wrong.Not your ornery onager
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What's the matter with you, can't sleep?
I don't appreciate your tone - we're having a discussion, so what's eating you?
You really should calm down.bazz26 explained the reason for the Garda presence at the seizure of the car. No warrant was needed. I know this, but I'm not going to bother proving it to you, as you 'know' different.
So, so long as Gards are present at the scene, Customs/Guards can just seize anything they want anywhere?
Presumably (by extension), that means Garda don't need warrants either, when they're out to seize anything themselves?
Or is my 'Alice-in-Wonderland Humpty Dumpty' logic failing me again?
(I hope you're not thinking of Section 7 of the Customs Act, by any chance) 0 -
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