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  • 10-11-2007 9:15pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭


    okay in this modern day and age it seems to me that there are not many legendary bands in the makin so i thought i would leave it to the people to say who they think will go down as the great bands of the 00s?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,177 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Imo The Darkness, The Mars Volta, Charlotte Hatherley and Dragonforce. For me they are great artists, shame The Darkness split but they're reforming as another band following Justins departure so that might be another band to add to the list. I wouldn't go so far as to call any of them legendary yet, but I really enjoy their work for this decade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    wit the exception of dragonforce who are class i would disagree but this more bout bands that will be known as epic like GnR Led Zepplin Metallica Hendrix and even the Chilli s who u could say are still round but will be known for there emergence in the 90s


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,581 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    for some reason i dislike the term "the noughties", just doesn't have the same ring as the seventie's/eightie's or nintie's


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,177 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Cremo wrote: »
    for some reason i dislike the term "the noughties", just doesn't have the same ring as the seventie's/eightie's or nintie's

    yeah, I agree, should be called the naughts, noughties just sounds like some lame channel 4/bbc/celeb pundit coinage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,135 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    There truly aren't many legendary bands in the making. There's a fair amount of shite coming out of the British music scene at the moment. I mean the Libertines are considered legendary by some deranged people. Actually nearly all bands that have come out of England in the past 7 years, who's name starts with the, are total shite, yet nme will try and convince everybody these bands are all genius.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    Well, Radiohead obviously. Probably Muse also, but to a much lesser extent. The Mars Volta probably aren't big enough to be remembered by many, though they've also made some good music in this decade(if a bit over pretentious at times).

    The Arctic Monkeys, the Libertines etc. will all be remembered too and will be legendary in the minds of many, though personally I disagree.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Muse
    The Strokes
    The Libertines


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    The Beatles


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    I'm going to go with the strokes, and the klaxons. Love them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 117 ✭✭MonsieurD


    I think if there were "GREAT" bands in the 2000's then we wouldn't be finding it so difficult to agree. Don't get me wrong there are "great" bands today (e.g Radiohead) but not in the league of the 60's , 70's. I think they were times when music was really seen to make a difference to society. That's not the case anymore. Pity! Also, the 2000's has seen people become convinced that the way into the music industry is thru' the boy/girl bands and the X-Factor w**kers. These manufactured twats have hijacked the airwaves for years.

    As each decade passes, the number of "GREAT" bands emerging is growing less (I think).


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,581 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    MonsieurD wrote: »
    As each decade passes, the number of "GREAT" bands emerging is growing less (I think).
    never a falser statement in my books.

    if you just listen to the radio/tv then you're going to get the majority crap that's pushed out there.

    80's and 90's had great music in tv and radio and in the charts but that has diminished.

    you have to look harder and further for true greatness.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Sigur Rós will be remembered. They're the sort of band who is popular but not mega mega mega huge in their day but will have a knock on effect in years to come.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,867 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Technically Muse are a 90s band having released Showbiz in 99 but they'd be the standout one.

    Arctic Monkeys and The Killers will definitely be remembered. Bands such as Biffy Clyro should be remembered but probably won't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Timans


    The Strokes? Great? Paaaah.

    Arctic Monkeys are a good band and are probably one of the better bands out know.

    I think people miss the point of these sort of discussions and just talk about bands they LIKE as opposed to bands they feel will have legendary status in the future. Yes, I like the Arctic Monkeys a lot, but I can't see them having the knock effect as bands such as Zeppelin, The Who, Nirvana (whether you like them or not).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Timans wrote: »
    The Strokes? Great? Paaaah.

    Arctic Monkeys are a good band and are probably one of the better bands out know.

    I think people miss the point of these sort of discussions and just talk about bands they LIKE as opposed to bands they feel will have legendary status in the future. Yes, I like the Arctic Monkeys a lot, but I can't see them having the knock effect as bands such as Zeppelin, The Who, Nirvana (whether you like them or not).

    The Strokes changed music when they released their debut album IMO. They brought back great rock music, they woke up the New York scene again. I dont think The Libertines would be around if not for them, if the Libs werent around it would have a huge knock on effect on the number of good bands around today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭Dr Lektroluv


    I'd say

    Muse
    Eminem
    Outkast
    Daft Punk
    The Strokes
    Kings of Leon

    The reason I'd put Eminem, Outkast & Daft Punk in there is this wasn't a very rock-dominated decade like the 60s, 70s and 80s and will probably (and unfortunately) be remembered more for hip-hop. For example - whether you like Eminem or not, his popularity over the past 7-8 years is unquestionable and there's no doubt he will be remembered when people think of this decade.

    People saying "Mars Volta, Biffy Clyro" etc are confusing artists that they like with artists that will be actually remembered and listened to in 40 years. I mean I don't even know a single song from either of those 2 mentioned, would people have been able to say the same in the 60's about the beatles, or the who?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭JC 2K3


    Melion wrote: »
    The Strokes changed music when they released their debut album IMO. They brought back great rock music, they woke up the New York scene again.
    lol. How is bringing something back changing music?

    Considering New York produced bands as innovative as The Velvet Underground and was the home of movements as "out there" as No Wave, if a band as bland as The Strokes are to be accredited with being at the forefront of the New York music scene these days, it can hardly be said that they "woke up the New York scene" but rather that they inspired musical regression.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭The Scientician


    It's too early to say but I reckon an act like LCD Soundsystem might be remembered as a legendary band of the '00s. Maybe even one of the big hip-hop producers as well, Timbaland, Neptunes et al. Their sound is all over this decade.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,581 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Biffy Clyro should be remembered but probably won't.

    biffy will be remembered, but for the wrong reasons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭DadaKopf


    First of all: who knows?

    Second of all: who cares?

    Whoever is remembed, it won't be down to how popular, amazing, groundbreaking or revolutionary they were.

    Whoever is remembered will be down to what bands music journalists decide to champion. They're the ones who form people's opinions; IMHO (with some exceptions), the best are often the ones who are remembered by the few who form their own opinions.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Cremo wrote: »
    for some reason i dislike the term "the noughties", just doesn't have the same ring as the seventie's/eightie's or nintie's

    Agreed. We should call now the ja-danketies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    JC 2K3 wrote: »
    lol. How is bringing something back changing music?

    Considering New York produced bands as innovative as The Velvet Underground and was the home of movements as "out there" as No Wave, if a band as bland as The Strokes are to be accredited with being at the forefront of the New York music scene these days, it can hardly be said that they "woke up the New York scene" but rather that they inspired musical regression.

    QFT!

    The Strokes are a tribute band to an aesthetic (vintage clothing, poppy post-punk music, a typically rock and roll swagger) but are in no way a breath of fresh air or a kick up the arse to music. The New York scene is alive and well but sounds nothing like The Strokes.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    John wrote: »
    QFT!

    The Strokes are a tribute band to an aesthetic (vintage clothing, poppy post-punk music, a typically rock and roll swagger) but are in no way a breath of fresh air or a kick up the arse to music. The New York scene is alive and well but sounds nothing like The Strokes.

    Ya, um what john said. I was going to post more but i think you've covered it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,177 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    I'd say

    Muse
    Eminem
    Outkast
    Daft Punk
    The Strokes
    Kings of Leon

    The reason I'd put Eminem, Outkast & Daft Punk in there is this wasn't a very rock-dominated decade like the 60s, 70s and 80s and will probably (and unfortunately) be remembered more for hip-hop. For example - whether you like Eminem or not, his popularity over the past 7-8 years is unquestionable and there's no doubt he will be remembered when people think of this decade.

    People saying "Mars Volta, Biffy Clyro" etc are confusing artists that they like with artists that will be actually remembered and listened to in 40 years. I mean I don't even know a single song from either of those 2 mentioned, would people have been able to say the same in the 60's about the beatles, or the who?

    Nick Drake didn't have mainstream success in in the late 60s/early 70s but now he's got a sizeable fan base. Thats around 40 years on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,177 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    just to add, this decade has been very poor for music/films/culture in general imo. The 90s for me, were much better with artists like Radiohead, NIN, Nirvana, Pulp, Portishead, MC Hammer etc, films like Pulp Fiction, 12 Monkeys, Desperado and Scream and tv shows like The Simpsons (when they were good and got started) The X Files, and Bottom. Overall I just liked the 90s more. This decade has just been an imitation of the 80s and while the 80s at least had its own identity and some great films, this decade has no identity of its own beyond being an 80s rehash. Music has become more about image and haircuts rather than about the music, its become very conservative in that sense. I think that there will be a backlash to whats around now, probably around 2009/10 and I look forward to it. Roll on the 90s appreciation decade!


  • Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭Full.Duck


    Not too many great bands of the the 00's, but just listen to marx volta, one of the greatest bands of all time, imo. But dont think they will be remembered, to much commercial music around, plus peoples music tastes range very differently from years ago when all that was really around was rock. There are many great bands, just not going to be stadium fillers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,906 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    The Strokes
    The Libertines
    The White Stripes


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,906 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    just to add, this decade has been very poor for music/films/culture in general imo. The 90s for me, were much better with artists like Radiohead, NIN, Nirvana, Pulp, Portishead, MC Hammer etc, films like Pulp Fiction, 12 Monkeys, Desperado and Scream and tv shows like The Simpsons (when they were good and got started) The X Files, and Bottom. Overall I just liked the 90s more. This decade has just been an imitation of the 80s and while the 80s at least had its own identity and some great films, this decade has no identity of its own beyond being an 80s rehash. Music has become more about image and haircuts rather than about the music, its become very conservative in that sense. I think that there will be a backlash to whats around now, probably around 2009/10 and I look forward to it. Roll on the 90s appreciation decade!

    Bottom? I very much hope that's not what the 90's are remembered for.
    This decade has Curb Your Enthusiasm, Arrested Development, and the greatest TV show ever made in The Office.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭grumpytrousers


    I'd think that there's very little chance of the present decade producing a raft of artists/bands that will be described as 'decade defining' in the sense that, say, the Beatles, The Stones, Bowie, Queen, Blondie, The Clash, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Oasis etc

    That list there isn't a list of 'personal favourites' but they ARE the kind of acts that in 30 years time, you could be shown a picture of them and go 'oh aye, that's so-and-so'.

    It's due to the changing nature of media that this is the case; I've not a doubt in the world that a lot of the bands mentioned heretofore are a sod of a lot more inventive than any of the 'legends' i've described, but they've not had the cultural impact, and frankly won't. By Cultural Impact I mean, the front of Time Magazine, the complete ubiquity associated with most of them, y'know.

    the 'market' (a word which i try and use in as uncommercial a sense as i can) is at a stage where it's so fragmented that we won't see, in the conventional sense, the production of legends in the same way...but maybe that's a good thing; if nothing else, it'll mean a f*cks sight less mega-reunion tours troubling the residents of the environs of Croke Park in 30 years time....:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    just to add, this decade has been very poor for music/films/culture in general imo. The 90s for me, were much better with artists like Radiohead, NIN, Nirvana, Pulp, Portishead, MC Hammer etc, films like Pulp Fiction, 12 Monkeys, Desperado and Scream and tv shows like The Simpsons (when they were good and got started) The X Files, and Bottom. Overall I just liked the 90s more. This decade has just been an imitation of the 80s and while the 80s at least had its own identity and some great films, this decade has no identity of its own beyond being an 80s rehash. Music has become more about image and haircuts rather than about the music, its become very conservative in that sense. I think that there will be a backlash to whats around now, probably around 2009/10 and I look forward to it. Roll on the 90s appreciation decade!

    Bollocks!

    As far as film goes, the 00's have been fantastic. Memento, Spirited Away, The Prestige, Batman Begins, Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind, Pan's Labyrinth, Downfall, Oldboy, V For Vendetta, Mulholland Drive, Hot Fuzz, Shaun Of The Dead, Casino Royale, Children Of Men, and so many more it minds the boggle!

    I'm not going to say it's been better or worse than any other decade, but on the whole, good film makers have never stopped making good films.

    And it's likewise with music. I never pine for "The good old days" because there is rarely a shortage of great music being made, it just goes under the radar. I think that people who often complain about there being a lack of good music these days are just too lazy to look around and listen to new things, they want something to just land in their laps.


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