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Schols Schols Schols, information and venting thread.
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So in reality, I think the only difference is there's a higher likelihood of a greater variance in the marks obtained in different exams by science/maths subject scholars.
Also, while there's a high potential for trolling material in this, I think it's possible that the numbers getting schols in any particular course can be at least partially affected by the type of people who go into that course. For example, the reason a high amount of med students get schols every year, or the reason why a Maths/TP student generally is the Toronto Scholar, isn't down to it being any easier to get high marks in these subjects than any other subject.
Well in terms of highest marks attainable it has to be a very partial influence: Maths/TP attracts people who are very good at Maths/TP, yes, but surely most courses attract people who are as good at that course as the best people in Maths/TP are at Maths/TP? And thus in principle able to get equally high percentages. But this doesn't happen in Schols, at least in the last 10+ years. The criteria for gold medals suggests an "exceptional" score in sciencey subjects is higher than in artsy subjects, which I'd interpret as (further) evidence of a cultural bias in marking schemes. Taking it as evidence that people doing science subjects are more exceptional is silly (although personally gratifying for me
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Equally though I'm not sure it makes sense to say it's "easier" to get Schols in science subjects. This comparison only works if you blankly compare numerical marks in arts exams to numerical marks in science exams, and the real question is whether this is at all valid. (And it seems not to be.) If the mark given out was just "First" this issue probably wouldn't arise (although you could argue against this by comparing what proportion of particular classes get firsts, I don't have any data/anecdotal evidence here...)
Man I spend too much time thinking about exams I'm not even doing.0 -
It's not the same with law. I got 72 in one of my papers so they can't be marked out of 70.almostnever wrote: »It's the same with law, not that any of my friends/family believe that. :P Best of luck if you do go for them again next year, and to anyone else who does. Takes some real guts and stamina and, of course, brains. You're legends.
I'm considering giving it a go myself but I don't really know if I'd be cut out for it. I suppose the general advice is to give it a lash and see what happens?0 -
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Pharmanimal wrote: »Because ya can't bate wolfing down an auld slice of cake with another one rising in the oven
Nah, just focus on first year exams. Doing Schols in first year would be more stress than it's worth0 -
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The first thing I got from this sentence was "pregnant women enjoy cake".Pharmanimal wrote: »Because ya can't bate wolfing down an auld slice of cake with another one rising in the oven0 -
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Can you definitely sit schol in any year or does it depend on the department? Because I've just been told that I can't sit it in 3rd year.
The only thing it says on the College calendar entry is that "no students may compete for a scholarship until after their names have been entered on
the College books as Junior Freshmen, i.e. they cannot compete as rising Junior Freshmen".
That's from here. If that's the only thing they specify, then it seems that any student should be allowed to sit schols. There were definitely third years from Maths/TP this year and I don't see why the regulations would be different for another course (except maybe medicine, which is always special!). Out of curiosity, who told you that you couldn't? Exams office should be able to confirm it either way. 0 -
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There were definitely third years from Maths/TP this year and I don't see why the regulations would be different for another course (except maybe medicine, which is always special!). Out of curiosity, who told you that you couldn't? Exams office should be able to confirm it either way.
No, a lot of JS Meds sat and got Schol this year (But I'm not doing Med). My course tutor said I can't take schol in 3rd year but there was a lot of shifty eye movement going on and I assume he was not completely forthcoming with the truth there.
Thanks Andrew for the link. No, its only SF that took it this year in my course but there is many who take it in 3rd year on other courses. :cool: Is there any way of finding out from previous years?0 -
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Ah! Appears I am too slow, I just PM'd Larianne the same link.. In case people didn't want their results spread over the internet! Although, they kinda already are, etc. :pac:
They're anonymised sure, it's grand.No, a lot of JS Meds sat and got Schol this year (But I'm not doing Med). My course tutor said I can't take schol in 3rd year but there was a lot of shifty eye movement going on and I assume he was not completely forthcoming with the truth there.
Thanks Andrew for the link. No, its only SF that took it this year in my course but there is many who take it in 3rd year on other courses. :cool: Is there any way of finding out from previous years?
It'll tell you there for all courses. In BESS for example I know 3 people in JS sat it, and one guy (not me
) got it. A guy who's on erasmus as it happens! did em while he was back for the christmas break. 0
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