DBoys M4A1 BI-3681 (metal) discussion

kinkstr

Is the mag in secure?
What happens when you pull the trigger ie can you hear the motor.

liamo333

Keep winding it until it starts to click and then try.

What make model is it?

tonyj_mc

how are loading the mags?

petergriffin20

Yep motor works and mag is secure (I think) even fired a few rounds a few secs ago but became glogged right away. Do I have to wind the mag alot or just until the BB's reach the top?. Also the battery has not been charged yet...quote from the manual"Discharge the battery completly before charging it for the first time" the battery feels like it has alot of power still in it, so Im not sure if thats the issue.

liamo333

Charge the battery fully and wind the mags until you hear it clicking.

petergriffin20

Its the BI-3681 FULL METAL

Fallschirmjager

peter,

if the battery is very low it wont fire properly....whne you charge it fully, have your glasses on!!!


also keep winding the mag, you will hear a different sound when its ready...

is the charger one that came with the gun?
what type of battery is it nicd or li-ion or ni-mh (it will say it on the side of the battery)? if its nicd you have to discharge but dont go bananas trying to discharge it, you will be buying another anyways, you just have not realised that yet!!! LOL
if it li-ion or ni-mh you can just charge away...



note to self>>reason 256 of why i hate hicaps...winding BS...

liamo333

Fallschirmjager wrote:

note to self>>reason 256 of why i hate hicaps...winding BS...

BUY MID-CAPS!!!!!!!

tonyj_mc

liamo333 wrote:

BUY MID-CAPS!!!!!!!

Hell yeah

o1s1n

petergriffin20 wrote:

Yep motor works and mag is secure (I think) even fired a few rounds a few secs ago but became glogged right away. Do I have to wind the mag alot or just until the BB's reach the top?. Also the battery has not been charged yet...quote from the manual"Discharge the battery completly before charging it for the first time" the battery feels like it has alot of power still in it, so Im not sure if thats the issue.

So it was firing but then stopped and hasnt fired since? Maybe there's a bb jammed in the barrel. Constantly firing it if there is will break your gun.

Did you check with a cleaning rod?

petergriffin20

I bought this off RSOV the battery is completly blank no writing just black all over but I will charge it anyway. So with the mid cap mags you dont have to wind them? Also could some1 pont me in the right direction for the mid cap mag and a new battery. Cheers

Fallschirmjager

o1s1n wrote:

So it was firing but then stopped and hasnt fired since? Maybe there's a bb jammed in the barrel. Constantly firing it if there is will break your gun.

Did you check with a cleaning rod?

good point o1s1n, some of the chinese one have a lot of oil and gunk in the barrell..i think ambro said the same...

petergriffin20

Yes there was a BB jammed but I got it out but it still glogs straight away once you fire again. I think its because I kept winding the mag for like a MINUTE.

liamo333

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intellect-MINI-8-4V-1400mAh-NiMH-Airsoft-Battery-IT-05_W0QQitemZ270143664469QQihZ017QQcategoryZ71081QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MAG-M-Series-Mid-Cap-100rds-Airsoft-Magazine-BOX-of-8_W0QQitemZ270142972666QQihZ017QQcategoryZ64635QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

o1s1n

petergriffin20 wrote:

Yes there was a BB jammed but I got it out but it still glogs straight away once you fire again. I think its because I kept winding the mag for like a MINUTE.

Winding the mag for a minute isn't going to do anything but cause the mag to overwind.

If there was a jammed bb in the barrel and it happened again once you got it out, there may be some imperfection in the barrel which is causing jams. Even as Fallschirmjager said, gunk. Give it a good clean.

petergriffin20

Will try that buddy. Cheers for all the help guys dont know what I would of done without ye. Thanks for the links Liamo.

Fallschirmjager

okay we now hit reason 257 of why hi-caps are ****e....


peter you need to watch yourself doing this and maybe do it in a bag unless you like crunching bb's into your floor...

ALSO WATCH YOUR FACE AND EYES HERE BEFORE YOU START

at the top of the mag near where you can see then is a small plastic clip..it will move away from the bb..its small..

if you use your fingernail, push it back...and you will be sprayed with bb's...DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT LOOK AT WHEN DOING THIS,they come out fast!!!!

wear your glasses for safety...hence why put it in a bag...(note to self :reason 258)

that will empty the bb from the wound part of your magazine...now begin again...pour them in, and wind until it clicks a different sound...

i would bet the battery is nicd.

at a later stage you might want to look at getting a better charger...one that can discharge your battery also and preferably go for the lithium or nimh ones but thats not a necessity...just get the same voltage,size and shape as the one you have. the web is awash with them. the charger and batt you have will work fine in the short term...

also clean your barrell and if you have some silicone oil use it on the cloth. get a small peice of cloth, at the top of the barrel cleaner is a small eyelet. wrap the cloth around that..you only need a few inches long..dont jam a big wad in there..it should be a nice fit, tight but not something you have to force in. twist it into the barrel slowly..do that a few times...i am betting a pile of crap will come out. a lot of the makers oil them up for travel and storage...you need to clean that out.

also if you are using the bbs that came with the aeg...check them..if you see atiny line on them like a weld line...throw the little bastards out..they will always jam up your aeg..

oh and only silicone oil..DONT USE anything else..

petergriffin20

Ok cleaned the barrel and no joy still firing 1 round then nothing but its not getting clogged anymore its just no firing them out or when it does not very far. The battery probably too low going to charge it.

liamo333

Does it make a whining noise and then stop?

o1s1n

Fallschirmjager wrote:

okay we now hit reason 257 of why hi-caps are ****e....

High caps from a good manufacturer are fine. I've never had any problem with mine.
A general rule seems to be that if you buy a clone and want to use high caps, buy some decent ones. They're not exactly expensive and should make its performance better.

CrazyRabbit

Make sure you turn OFF the hopup before cleaning the barrel. The hopup can be damaged if you don't.

petergriffin20

how do I turn it off?

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Easiest thing is to turn it down as far as possible basically.

petergriffin20

Cheers I hope the thing works 2moro 12 hours is a long time. How long do you normally get out of it.

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You talking about the battery is it? that should be fine for quite a few thousand shots.

petergriffin20

Will this do for a charger for the battery I ordered (from liamo's link). http://cgi.ebay.com/TLP-EXPRO-II-Fuzzy-Logic-Computer-NiCD-NiMH-Bat-CHARGER_W0QQitemZ270142501279QQihZ017QQcategoryZ34063QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

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Im sure it would but its pretty costly for a charger in my opinion, This one here http://cgi.ebay.com/SUPER-NiCd-RC-Airsoft-Battery-Fast-Charger-4-8-9-6V-CH1_W0QQitemZ270143350867QQihZ017QQcategoryZ34063QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem will be more then adequete and would leave ya with more moneys to spend on ammo/mags goggles etc

petergriffin20

Cheers for that mate saved me alot. All ordered now the mid caps the battery and the charger. Thanks for all your help guys I wont post anymore in this topic. Cheers

gandalf

Ordered the first one on this link myself. Does the job nicely.

http://www.airsoftscotland.com/acatalog/Battery_Chargers.html

ciarancummins

Hi,

I bought a Dboys M4 BI3881 a couple of weeks ago, and silicone spray was essential for getting it working smoothly. Spray some silicone into the fully loaded magazine, after cleaning the barrel with silicone spray also. Now semi and full auto work like a charm. yet to use it in "anger" but plan to soon.

Ciaran

petergriffin20

Cheers for that. I think there is a mis-feed issue with mag also I noticed there was a screw loose on the mag this morning so I think its faulty. The battery is fully charged and Im still having the same problem. I let of about 6 shots on semi after a good wind of the mag worked for the 6 shots, then nothing its doesnt clog just doesnt fire anything. Then on fully auto 1 or 2 shots then it clogs or 4 or 5 BB's just roll out of the barrel. So think its the mag not the gun.

ciarancummins

I thought so too, but the silicone spray sorted out my 3 mags.

Fallschirmjager

petergriffin20 wrote:

Cheers for that. I think there is a mis-feed issue with mag also I noticed there was a screw loose on the mag this morning so I think its faulty. The battery is fully charged and Im still having the same problem. I let of about 6 shots on semi after a good wind of the mag worked for the 6 shots, then nothing its doesnt clog just doesnt fire anything. Then on fully auto 1 or 2 shots then it clogs or 4 or 5 BB's just roll out of the barrel. So think its the mag not the gun.

well as o1s1n says...the mags on the chinese ones seem to be poor quality...best get yourselF a real one..at least it isnt the aeg...

petergriffin20

Well I ordered the 1's that liamo showed me, there not wind up either THANK GOD. I will give the silicone spray a go. Do you think I will be able to get it in homebase?

Fallschirmjager

petergriffin20 wrote:

Well I ordered the 1's that liamo showed me, there not wind up either THANK GOD. I will give the silicone spray a go. Do you think I will be able to get it in homebase?

i think b&q stock it, u might want to ring homebase..try get it in the spray can if you can.

petergriffin20

Dont know of any B&Q in limerick. Will try homebase anyway. Just to clear this up WD-40 isnt silicone spray right?

Shiva

God no....dont use WD-40 .... it'll destroy any rubber components.

It should be clearly marked as silicone oil spray.

petergriffin20

Cheers.

kdouglas

this is the stuff your looking for:



made by the same company as wd40, but not the same stuff

petergriffin20

Once again cheers. Is it lint free cloth that is used to clean the barrel?

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J-cloths seem to work fine but im sure their is something much better. I often find when looking through my newly squeeky-cleaned barrel that i can spot a tiny fibre or 2 taht just wong go away without being replaced by another one of its kind :rolleyes:

kdouglas

yup...

once the cloth doesnt come apart easily in the barrel basically your alright..

i've actually used cut-up kleenex to clean the barrel on several occasions and it does the job for me

o1s1n

kdouglas wrote:

this is the stuff your looking for:



made by the same company as wd40, but not the same stuff

I think it's about time you got that image printed on a tshirt

kdouglas

lol, indeed

Tada:

liamo333

kdouglas wrote:

lol, indeed

Tada:

LOL couldnt stop laughing!

M8 get yourself a speed loader on ehobby. The 200rd kingarms one is good.

CrazyRabbit

hehe..nice one kdouglas. You should sell them!

You can also pickup the silicone oil at Halfords stores. Other bicycle stores should stock it as well.

ambro25

My... my review... :eek: what have you all done?! WHAT HAVE YOU ALL DONE?!? NOOOOOOO...

kinkstr

ambro25 wrote:

My... my review... :eek: what have you all done?! WHAT HAVE YOU ALL DONE?!? NOOOOOOO...

Well atleast we all know what a can of silicone oil looks like. 8:)

Have you had a chance to take a pic of your m4 with the scope attached?
Im picking mine up from the post office in the morning and im pretty sire ill be ordering a scope within minutes of getting home.

ambro25

Nope, wife went away on hols with the camera before I had a chance, so it'll be early August (or last week-end in July at HRTA if you want a neb ). Not bohering with mobile phone cam, res is too low to do it justice.

It looks way cooler than with the carry handle, suffice to say - but as I found out last Saturday at HRTA, it ain't very practical when you get 'physical' (managed to lose a lens cover retaining pin during the first round in the morning - luckily enough, I realised nearly straight away and found the lens cover itself. Now to find a retaining pin... ). To make matters worse, I realised yesterday that I forgot to switch the bastid off - of course the CR's ran out since :mad: meh!

If you look at my photo (:D) in the rogues' gallery thread, it looks just like the one in the pic', minus the foregrip.

kinkstr

Im planning on going to hrta but i doubt it will be by then but thanks anyway. ill most probably order one tomorrow anyway.