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rally ireland preview & shakedown

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    LOL...RTE lose coverage almost immediately as it begins.....:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 999 ✭✭✭cregser


    Makes you proud to be Irish. Just think, milllions and millions of motorsport fans are watching this "coverage" throughout the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    zuutroy wrote: »
    LOL...RTE lose coverage almost immediately as it begins.....:(

    yup. They've made a complete balls of it.

    And all they can manage is a green screen and unfortunate continuity announcer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭cuppa


    yup,,tis fooked,and i dont like the split screen thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 999 ✭✭✭cregser


    By the looks of it they had to reboot some computer.

    It took a while to get my head around the course. The least they could have done was show a map.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭aidan_dunne


    Jaysus, can RTE ever manage to do anything without screwing it up somehow! F**king idiots! :mad:

    I just hope the people who may have been watching it live in other countries or on the WRC.com live feed weren't effected by that technical glitch. It really wouldn't have said much about us if they had been, would it? From what I could see, though, it looked to me like it was an ISC/North One produced feed which was then being taken by RTE and transmitted by satellite for broadcast across RTE Two. So, to me anyway, it looked like it was a problem with RTE's satellite link and not the main feed, which means it may indeed have just been RTE viewers in this country who were affected and viewers elsewhere would have been okay. I hope so, anyway.

    Fair play to Kris Meeke, he did a hell of a job posting that time. I was really hoping it was going to stick and he'd finish up tonight top of the timesheets. Still though, if you're going to get beaten by anyone, best to be beaten by the two best drivers in the world, eh? ;):D

    Oh, by the way, just wondering if anyone else picked up on the mistake Peter Collins and John Kenny made when they mentioned how, with Austin, Gareth and Aaron McHale all competing this weekend, it was the first time three members of one family had ever competed in a world championship rally together. I caught it straight away, just wondering if anyone else did.* ;)





    *
    Jimmy, Colin and Alistair McRae competed together on the RAC / Rally GB on at least one occasion that I can recall. In fact, I'm sure they've competed on it a few times together


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭nanook


    have to agree with you all, our first chance to shine with many 1st's for the WRC and they bugger the whole thing

    1st time the rally takes place in 2 different countries, not a political statement before we get the ireland is 32 and all that

    1st time 3 members of one family competing

    1st time the opening ceramony was crap.....(why could they have not lost coverage then, that would have been a great time to reset the camera's)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Thanks everyone for making me feel not so bad about missing it.

    Let's hope UTVs offering at 23:35 is OK.

    - BlackBox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭fabsoul


    Jaysus, can RTE ever manage to do anything without screwing it up somehow! F**king idiots! :mad:

    I just hope the people who may have been watching it live in other countries or on the WRC.com live feed weren't effected by that technical glitch. It really wouldn't have said much about us if they had been, would it? From what I could see, though, it looked to me like it was an ISC/North One produced feed which was then being taken by RTE and transmitted by satellite for broadcast across RTE Two. So, to me anyway, it looked like it was a problem with RTE's satellite link and not the main feed, which means it may indeed have just been RTE viewers in this country who were affected and viewers elsewhere would have been okay. I hope so, anyway.

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    Eurosport viewers were affected as well.

    here a good live results site.
    http://www.worldrallynews.com/~bfg/WRC_2007_R15/raceclas.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭aidan_dunne


    blackbox wrote: »
    Let's hope UTVs offering at 23:35 is OK.

    What offering would that be? UTV aren't showing any coverage of tonight's stage, as far as I know. According to the TV listings, all they're showing at 23:35 is a repeat of last weeks 'RPM' which was just a preview kind of thing focusing on Kris Meeke and the other young local drivers.

    Nightly highlights on Eurosport from tomorrow night, though, as usual which will probably have a quick recap of tonight's stage as well.
    fabsoul wrote:
    Eurosport viewers were affected as well.

    Funny you should mention that. This week's 'Motorsport News' said that they were also going to be showing tonight's super special stage live between 7 and 8 on British Eurosport but there was no sign of it. All we got was some kind of strongman competition. Was it on the international Eurosport feed instead then? If so, and if that's the one that was also affected by the technical gremlins, then it obviously wasn't just RTE but the whole thing instead was affected. And, if it was the case that it was ISC/North One providing the pictures instead of RTE, then I suppose RTE can be forgiven then as it wouldn't have been their fault, they were just taking the same world feed pictures everybody else was as well.

    Just out of curiousity, does anybody know how much of a hand RTE actually do have in this weekend's coverage? Are they responsible for producing any of the pictures at all or supplying any technical assistance (satellite links, OB units, helicams, etc.) or is it all being done by ISC/North One themselves and RTE are then just simply taking the pictures being supplied to them by ISC and re-broadcasting them across the RTE network? :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Funny you should mention that. This week's 'Motorsport News' said that they were also going to be showing tonight's super special stage live between 7 and 8 on British Eurosport but there was no sign of it. All we got was some kind of strongman competition. Was it on the international Eurosport feed instead then?

    It was shown live on Eurosport 2. They even left their coverage while the feed was down to show the sports news for a few minutes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    Is there any TV station showing the rally live??

    RTE coverage is pretty lame, too much waffle not enough action.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭aidan_dunne


    philstar wrote:
    Is there any TV station showing the rally live??

    RTE coverage is pretty lame, too much waffle not enough action.

    No TV station would ever be able to cover an entire rally live, the logistics involved in doing something like that would be ridiculous. The most you'll ever get when it comes to live coverage of a rally is a single stage shown live, and usually they'll be pretty short stages too. Hence why the Stormont Super Special was shown live, as is the final, Mullaghmore stage on Sunday because they're both so short it makes them relatively easy to show them live.

    The closest thing you'll get to "live" coverage of the whole rally is the daily highlights shows on RTE and Eurosport. The Eurosport one is the better of the two, being the official ISC/North One produced show which has all of the action and none of the waffle! :D

    I agree, the RTE coverage has been pretty lame alright with, as you say, too much waffle and not enough action. Tonight's hour long highlights show was dreadful, in my opinion. They showed a repeat of the morning action shown in the afternoon (2.30) show, had a bit of waffle and an ad break, then showed the action from the afternoon and that was pretty much all the important stuff shown within half an hour. They then had almost another half an hour to fill with more waffle, a few interviews that really didn't add all that much to the coverage, repeated talking points and anything else they could think of to fill the remaining 30 minutes. The last half hour was really dragged out, they could have easily shown all the important stuff that we wanted to see in 30 minutes, an hour long show was definitely too long. Or, if they're going to insist on an hour long nightly highlights show, at least spread the action out more evenly, don't cram it all in in the first 30 minutes and then leave Michael Lyster having to try and pad out the remaining 30! The only real thing it had going for it was the couple of extra camera angles they had of Gronholm's crash and John Kenny's funny interview with Andrew Nesbitt! :D

    It's definitely not a patch on the old, nightly 'Top Gear Rally Reports' that the BBC used to show back in the days of the RAC Rally, that's for sure! ;):D

    And, is it just me, or has Billy Colman turned into a right old grumpy bollocks in his old age? :D Has anyone else noticed it? He never stops complaining about the costs involved these days and how young drivers can't get into rallying now because it's so expensive and also complaining about the regulations, the lack of recce time, how there's too much technology on the cars, etc., etc. He does have a point, I'll admit, but he keeps going on and on and on about it. Billy, as much as we all respect you and everything, Jaysus, lad, will you give it a rest! :D We get the point! We know it's not the same as it was back in your day, we know it's too expensive, we know how much technology is under the bodies of the cars these days but that's progress for you, both the good and bad points, and we just have to accept it and get on with it. No need to keep banging on about it!

    Also, with the greatest respect to Shaun Gallagher, he's no Tony Mason or Plum Tyndall, is he? :D Stick to the day job, Shaun, you're much better driving a rally car than talking about them! ;):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭nanook


    [QUOTE=aidan_dunne;54443953
    And, is it just me, or has Billy Colman turned into a right old grumpy bollocks in his old age? :D Has anyone else noticed it? He never stops complaining about the costs involved these days and how young drivers can't get into rallying now because it's so expensive and also complaining about the regulations, the lack of recce time, how there's too much technology on the cars, etc., etc. He does have a point, I'll admit, but he keeps going on and on and on about it. Billy, as much as we all respect you and everything, Jaysus, lad, will you give it a rest! :D We get the point! We know it's not the same as it was back in your day, we know it's too expensive, we know how much technology is under the bodies of the cars these days but that's progress for you, both the good and bad points, and we just have to accept it and get on with it. No need to keep banging on about it!

    Also, with the greatest respect to Shaun Gallagher, he's no Tony Mason or Plum Tyndall, is he? :D Stick to the day job, Shaun, you're much better driving a rally car than talking about them! ;):D[/QUOTE]


    Have to agree with billy coleman, it will be interesting to see if he is on the show today and will he be more up beat.

    In relation to Shaun, granted he is not a presenter but give him a chance, he relaxed compared to thursday show, he is a driver and a worker, not a professional presenter, think he is getting better.

    Michael Lestor, now in fairness he is at it a long time and is still crap, old school shirt and tie, SHIRT AND TIE, for gods sake, take the stuffiness out of the anchor (i am debating if there should be a W there or not) and relax. Its motor sport, not the budget.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    nanook wrote: »

    Michael Lestor, now in fairness he is at it a long time and is still crap, old school shirt and tie, SHIRT AND TIE, for gods sake, take the stuffiness out of the anchor (i am debating if there should be a W there or not) and relax. Its motor sport, not the budget.

    Yes Michael Lestor looks like a geography teacher.

    I mean who's doing the production on this.....the christain brothers??

    its like listening to a bunch of ol'lads down the country in some bungalow waffling about cars:rolleyes:
    and boring the arse off ya in the process

    RTE...sex it up!! for fu&k sake!!:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭aidan_dunne


    philstar wrote: »
    RTE...sex it up!! for fu&k sake!!:mad:

    If they had gotten Brid Deery on board as part of the presenting or interview team, they certainly would have achieved that! ;):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Unbelievable.

    RTE had a one-hour program on Saturday evening covering the rally, and it must have contained about 7 minutes of rally footage. What do they be thinking?

    ...and no coverage on Sunday night when we got home. (don't receive Eurosport - was it any good?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    I agree RTE's coverage was pathetic. The 1-hour programme on Saturday night was 80% waffle. Eurosport managed to show 3 times as much actual rally footage in their half-hour show and included great alternate camera angles.

    Then on Sunday, RTE had a whole hour from the completely uneventful Mullaghmore stage (albeit very picturesque) with not so much as a mention of Sunday morning's stages! Luckily for us all, they did get lots of great footage of the drum performers... :rolleyes:

    Eurosport managed lots of action from Sunday morning and in general their coverage over the weekend gave a good illustration of how treacherous the Irish stages really were (as opposed to RTE merely talking about it...). Shame that Eurosport's scheduled programme times are merely an irritating distraction from the reality though.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭BFassassin


    I watched the mullaghmore stage when I got home from it last night. It was quite dissapointing coverage, especially the interviews with the drivers. Who in RTE thought it would be a good idea to watch some muppet prance around a stage banging a drum so loudly no one could hear anything? It was terrible on RTE's part and unfortunately its what we have come to expect from them.


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