Bones and Neutering

Killme00

Whats the right age to give a dog a bone? I have a 4 and half month old beagle and ive given her some bacon ribs recently and she loves them. The only problem i can see is that she eats the bones too, she chews them to pulp and eats them. I boil the bone first too.

Also what is the right age to get a pup neutered. The vet said about six months and im wondering is this because you need to wait for the dog to come into heat first before neutering.

peasant

bacon ribs

:eek::eek:

Do NOT feed pork to your dog. In no shape or form, bones, raw, cooked, grilled, boiled ...doesn't matter ....DON'T !

Pork can carry the Aujetzky-Virus. This virus is lethal for dogs and can't be treated. For humans on the other hand it poses no danger whatsoever, so pork isn't checked for it.

If feeding bones (beef !), give them raw. Cooking only makes them hard and splinter.

Don't feed too much bone as it can lead to rather painful constipation in your dog.

Also don't give bones to pups while they still have their first (milk) teeth.
Those teeth are very soft and can be bend out of shape, affecting the growth of the second set

Killme00

peasant wrote: »

:eek::eek:

Do NOT feed pork to your dog. In no shape or form, bones, raw, cooked, grilled, boiled ...doesn't matter ....DON'T !

Pork can carry the Aujetzky-Virus. This virus is lethal for dogs and can't be treated. For humans on the other hand it poses no danger whatsoever, so pork isn't checked for it.

If feeding bones (beef !), give them raw. Cooking only makes them hard and splinter.

Don't feed too much bone as it can lead to rather painful constipation in your dog.

Also don't give bones to pups while they still have their first (milk) teeth.
Those teeth are very soft and can be bend out of shape, affecting the growth of the second set

Sheet, i should have aksed first. Feel like such a tool..thanks peasant

Toulouse

Peasant is right about too much bone constipating your dog. My girl loves them but I have to keep a close eye on her as she goes throught them like butter.

As for the neutering, most dogs are done at 6 months which is generally before the first heat cycle. Waiting for a dog to come into heat before neutering is not necessary.

Killme00

Hmm i wrote something yesterday about being a responsible dog owner and then i go and do this. Ive just read a little about Aujetzky-Virus or PseudoRabie and i am sure my pup will be fine. Ill take her to the vet on the weekend for a check just in case and wont be feeding her pork ever again. Im sure ive seen videos on youtune of dogs eating huge pork bellies and the like and am wondering how many others out there werent aware of this like me!!

Anyway thanks Peasant and Toulouse for your responses.

Tom

peasant

Killme00 wrote: »

Hmm i wrote something yesterday about being a responsible dog owner and then i go and do this. Ive just read a little about Aujetzky-Virus or PseudoRabie and i am sure my pup will be fine. Ill take her to the vet on the weekend for a check just in case and wont be feeding her pork ever again. Im sure ive seen videos on youtune of dogs eating huge pork bellies and the like and am wondering how many others out there werent aware of this like me!!

Anyway thanks Peasant and Toulouse for your responses.

Tom

Don't go and kill yourself over it

The risk is small, very small.

But it's lethal when it happens and easily avoidable

Toulouse

Oh she's sooooooooooo cute and very lucky to have an owner who has her best interests at heart.

I could just run away with her!

Killme00

peasant wrote: »

Don't go and kill yourself over it

LOL

peasant wrote: »

The risk is small, very small.But it's lethal when it happens and easily avoidable

Because its so avoidable it would sting so much more.

lightening

Killme00 wrote: »

Hmm i wrote something yesterday about being a responsible dog owner and then i go and do this.

Easy tiger! At least you asked, I did the exact same, only found out recently about the pork thing, couldn't believe it.

It costs a butcher 50 euro to get rid of a wheelie bin of by products. My local butcher is only to delighted to give me marrow bones. I pour boiling water over them before giving them to the dogs. Great when you have visitors that don't really like dogs, they stay out the back for hours without a sound.

That beagle is really really nice looking.

Killme00

lightening wrote: »

Easy tiger! At least you asked, I did the exact same, only found out recently about the pork thing, couldn't believe it.

It costs a butcher 50 euro to get rid of a wheelie bin of by products. My local butcher is only to delighted to give me marrow bones. I pour boiling water over them before giving them to the dogs. Great when you have visitors that don't really like dogs, they stay out the back for hours without a sound.

That beagle is really really nice looking.

Thanks lightening, i think ill lay off giving her bones for a few months though, might be best for her young teeth.

fits

Crikey I never knew that about pork either!

What about pigs ears then?

lightening

Killme00 wrote: »

might be best for her young teeth.

Yeah, my dogs are older. You could get her a kong toy if she is destructive, they have hollowed out bits that you can fill with meat or peanut butter.

http://www.doggiesolutions.co.uk/x281.html

Lots of pet shops stock them.

Killme00

lightening wrote: »

Yeah, my dogs are older. You could get her a kong toy if she is destructive, they have hollowed out bits that you can fill with meat or peanut butter.

http://www.doggiesolutions.co.uk/x281.html

Lots of pet shops stock them.

Oh she has a kong, except she is too smart for it. When i put some food in it and pack it with peanut butter, she just picks it up by the rope and smashes it off the ground from side to side until the food pops out, i kid you not. Im gonna try one of those food balls this week.

peasant

fits wrote: »

Crikey I never knew that about pork either!

What about pigs ears then?

Pigs ears are mostly grizzle, which apparently doesn't get affected by the virus so much. Plus they're heat treated and dowsed in preservatives which apparently should kill any traces of virus.


On the other hand ....:D

The get stored and transported in a very unhygenic manner and are usually riddled with funghi and mildew and all sorts of other nasties.

Ok as a "treat" every now and then ...not a staple food.

fits

peasant wrote: »

Pigs ears are mostly grizzle, which apparently doesn't get affected by the virus so much. Plus they're heat treated and dowsed in preservatives which apparently should kill any traces of virus.


On the other hand ....:D

The get stored and transported in a very unhygenic manner and are usually riddled with funghi and mildew and all sorts of other nasties.

Ok as a "treat" every now and then ...not a staple food.

Well mine get them as an occasional treat... but what would you recommend as the odd chewy treat?

I hate all those processed chews, and any time I ask for a bone from the butcher, he gives me a huge thing. Marrowbones?

lightening

fits wrote: »

and any time I ask for a bone from the butcher, he gives me a huge thing. Marrowbones?

He probably gives you the knee or the "knuckle" bone. Buy a hacksaw and saw the big ball or socket off, you are then left with a bone with marrow exposed each end.

fits

yes thats what I got.

peasant

fits wrote: »

Well mine get them as an occasional treat... but what would you recommend as the odd chewy treat?

carrots

We do give bones occasionally ...but the dogs make a big mess with them, smell of bone for days and bury some of it to drag up a stinking mess weeks later only to get diarrhea from eating that then.

Carrots are much cleaner

Killme00

Do they like carrots? Ive used grapes, she seems to love them but again only as a treat once in a while.

fits

peasant wrote: »

carrots

We do give bones occasionally ...but the dogs make a big mess with them, smell of bone for days and bury some of it to drag up a stinking mess weeks later only to get diarrhea from eating that then.

Carrots are much cleaner

yes meaty bones + carpet = smelly mess

I do give them the odd vegetable/apple core etc. Bob is very partial to outer skin of cauliflower.

I'll probably still give them the odd pigs ear though. I also get Burns treats which they love (and they have like 5 ingredients)

peasant

Killme00 wrote: »

Do they like carrots? Ive used grapes, she seems to love them but again only as a treat once in a while.

Beeeep !

Your second mistake today

Grapes and in particular raisins are also not good for dogs and should be avoided.


To save you from further embarrasment, here's a few more foods to avoid:

onions
garlic
chocolate
spicy food
raw potatos
green tomatos

fits

Raw potatoes!

Its a wonder my dogs are still alive

(they kind of chew 'em rather than eat 'em though)

Killme00

peasant wrote: »

Beeeep !

Your second mistake today

Grapes and in particular raisins are also not good for dogs and should be avoided.


To save you from further embarrasment, here's a few more foods to avoid:

onions
garlic
chocolate
spicy food
raw potatos
green tomatos

LOL Ok chocolate onions garlic i get, but tomotoes i dont understand..why? Im also talking about 1 or 2 grapes not a boat load.

Ruby Soho

With regard to the neutering query, it is a common misconception that bitches need to have a season before they are neutered, its not true. Neutering before the first oestrus cycle virtually eliminates the risk of the dog developing malignant mammary tumours later on in life. The risk with neutering before the first season is 0.5%, after just one cycle its 8%, a huge jump, which increases with every cycle for about 3 years. Besides, dogs can still become pregnant during the first heat, its not worth the risk! Trust me, its much less hassle if its done at 6 months!

Bernard Hopkins

what should you do if your dog has eaten a chicken bone ?