Its not the size of the boat but the motion of the ocean

In light of the beer belly thread and Since there have been many discussion of wimmins on the BGRH form I think us girls should have a discussion about this
Here's are some popular myths but does it matter to you ?

P.s: the link to this info cold not be posted as it invaribly had pictures of the nsfw variety


Penis size myths and facts
Myth 1
"My penis is smaller than average."
Most men think they are smaller than average. They get this view from looking down on their flaccid penis in locker rooms, or from watching porn films where well endowed studs thrust away endlessly on the moaning female "stars" until they explode in a volcanic crescendo.

The truth is that if you look down at your genitals from the top in a locker room, or anywhere else for that matter, you are going to get a shortened view of your penis: to appreciate its true size, you need to see it sideways on in a mirror. It then suddenly looks longer! And if you watch porn films, you're not seeing average sized men - you're seeing a small number of men who have penises so large that they are in demand to appear in porn films. And, by the way, the reason they go on for so long during sex is that they are totally detached from their feelings, not seeing the women as people, but as sex objects, and they are also cut off from the process of arousal and excitement that makes sex so enjoyable for most of us. It may come as a surprise that a man can have a rock hard penis and not be aroused - but that's one of the mysteries of male sexuality.

Myth 2
"Women like a man with a big penis."
No, they don't. A few women may like being stretched to the limit, or poked in the cervix during sex, but most do not care about the size of their man's penis. The problem here is the male thinking that "bigger equals better." This logic is based on the way men get sexual pleasure: the more friction, the better the sex. Therefore, a man may think that an above-average penis is going to give a woman more sensation. It seems like a logical connection. But women are not looking for physical sensation like this during sex. They are looking for emotional connection, a feeling of being loved, a sense of being special and cherished, and closeness and intimacy with their partner.

And what's the proof of this? Look on the women's "community" message boards on the internet and in general you won't find size discussed as an issue. It's the men's advice boards and websites that focus on penis measurement and comparison! Try it yourself if you want, by searching for "what women think about the penis" in Google or Yahoo. What you'll get is a plethora of get-bigger-quick sites telling you that size really, really does matter, and a few sensible websites aimed at men telling you that your penis is good for everything no matter how big or small it may be. But you won't find female oriented websites discussing the issue very much. What does that tell you? That it's just not an issue in women's consciousness, perhaps?

Myth 3
"Where women and penises are concerned, bigger is better for sex."
Actually, it isn't. If anything, women prefer a thick penis to a long one. This research was done at an American college by asking fifty sexually active women what they preferred: and they said they preferred thickness to length. But although the results were statistically significant, they were not hugely so. It isn't a matter of great importance to women. Original reference here.

Julia Bourland is a sex columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle and author of The Go-Girl Guide: Surviving Your 20s With Savvy, Soul, and Style. Here's what she says in her advice for women:

"In candid discussions with girlfriends, we've come to the unanimous conclusion that length is a far less critical component to the size factor than width. In fact, an extra long penis is even questionably desirable since it's apt to penetrate too deeply and pain the delicate cervix. An extra short penis on the other hand is still able to reach one's vital spot (the G-spot is just an inch or so back along the front wall of the vagina.) So if you're the type to enjoy G-spot pleasure - and not all women are - then a short penis will do no wrong. Unless it's short and thin. Then it may not have enough girth to trigger your arousal.

"If you are not satisfied by your partner's size, you will want to get creative about your sex positions. A short, thin penis may feel more substantial while engaging in variations of doggy style, which allows for deeper penetration. Using different positions and alternating with a vibrator now and then may increase the pleasure for both of you since many men find that the most satisfying sex is that which arouses their partner. Two other aspects of good sex that men can control matter as well - friction and awareness. For many women the key erogenous zone, the clitoris, is rarely dependent on the penis for orgasmic release. If your mate has the right rhythm, a marathon level of endurance and a keen awareness of all of your erogenous zones, the pleasure will come - regardless of length or width."

Myth 4
"My penis says it all about my masculinity - the bigger it is, the more manly I am"
In all the years I've worked with men, I have never seen any evidence that masculinity is connected to genital size. I know that a sense of self-esteem might come through being able to walk around the locker room or the changing room with an enormous dick swinging in front of you - but that doesn't mean you're more of a man. It's a social construct that penis size equals masculinity. The truth is this: the length and width of your penis has no relationship whatsoever to those masculine values worth cultivating - the ones that make you a real man: the ability to father a child, either biologically or socially, the strength of character to be a model citizen or a good leader, the personal depth to be a creative force both personally and in the community, and a powerful and emotionally aware male in your relationships, the dedication to be a mentor to adolescent boys, and the determination to think with power and clarity and get what you want out of life. If you had to choose between a big dick and those values, what would you choose? And, out of interest, which do you think would be more likely to attract women?

Myth 5
"The bigger my penis, the better the sex."
Not at all. For one thing, some women have smaller vaginas than others, especially Asian women, and for another the intensity of your orgasm is related to how aroused you are, not your physical size. And you don't last for longer during sex if you're on the large size. Men who experience premature ejaculation come in all shapes and sizes. I know this because I have spent a long time counseling men with PE. The cure for premature ejaculation is greater self-confidence, a better relationship with your spouse or partner, eliminating fear and guilt from sexual relationships, and open and honest communication. It doesn't lie in the size of your manhood, or falling for the line peddled by the "get-bigger-quick" sites about how you'll be able to make love all night when you're two inches longer. By the way, if you want to know how to deal with premature ejaculation, go here.

Myth 6
"I can't satisfy a woman unless I have a big dick."
No woman would ever agree with that. Only a minority of women orgasm through vaginal intercourse - and if they do, it's because the penis is stimulating their G spot. (A penis in the vagina doesn't stimulate the clitoris.) And guess where the G spot is found? About two inches inside the vagina on the upper wall. Now, is your penis two inches long? Yes? It is? Oh, good! So, if you want to, you can give a woman a vaginal orgasm. Most couples never realize this, because they don't know how vaginal orgasms are produced. You can read about it here, or if you don't want to bother, you and she can be quite satisfied with clitoral orgasms: these come from stimulating her clitoris with your tongue, your fingers, a vibrator, or the tip of your penis, rubbing outside her vagina on her vulva and clitoris. Here is an email on an internet discussion board from a woman:

"My husband has an erect penis about 5 inches and it's not thick. But I can assure you, he can absolutely drive me crazy with it - and for hours! I guess desire and technique are more necessary and appreciated for a small man? As you know, the clitoral area, the labia minora, and the vulva are delectably excitable. So, the smaller organ may be better able to stimulate that area. He teases me there with just the tip of his penis. WOW! Talk about multiple orgasms! So, if you're a man who doesn't have the largest of penises, please don't feel too bad about it - you can still do it for a woman!"

Slow Motion

Myth 7, Most men are concerned about the size of their penis !

No they aren't, while it may be entertaining for men to make comments about the size of theirs and lack of size of others while having a couple of pints and some banter in the pub, we all know the truth and nothing is meant by it other than having a laugh. The size of it when flaccid is irrelevant because when exited they are all pretty much the same and as long as our partners are happy we don't really care what others think or say !




Well as far as this man and his mates are concerned !

randylonghorn

Aye ... it may be an issue for 15-17 year olds, but after that most of us grow up and cop on ... though that doesn't stop us taking the pish out of ourselves (or others!) ...

*cough* Boards nick *cough*


Actually, speaking of nicks, Slow Motion ... given the title of the thread!

Slow Motion

randylonghorn wrote: »

Aye ... it may be an issue for 15-17 year olds, but after that most of us grow up and cop on ... though that doesn't stop us taking the pish out of ourselves (or others!) ...

*cough* Boards nick *cough*


Actually, speaking of nicks, Slow Motion ... given the title of the thread!

I've had no complaints

Sabre0001

Its not the size of the boat but the motion of the ocean
but it will take a long time to get to America in a rowboat...

fits

Slow Motion wrote: »

Myth 7, Most men are concerned about the size of their penis !

No they aren't,![/SIZE]

So why do I get all these emails in my spam filter every day with titles such as 'new bigger dick will turn you into multiorgasmic man'? Surely they're not sending them out for fun? :eek:

Maybe *you* are not concerned about it, but a lot of men seem to be... or seem to think that women care about size, which they dont for the most part.

Slow Motion

fits wrote: »

So why do I get all these emails in my spam filter every day with titles such as 'new bigger dick will turn you into multiorgasmic man'? Surely they're not sending them out for fun? :eek:

Maybe *you* are not concerned about it, but a lot of men seem to be... or seem to think that women care about size, which they dont for the most part.

Basic maths, it costs about 50 quid to send out a million of those things, all you need are two or three idiots to send you money and you are in profit !

Stargal

coolsmileygirl wrote: »

Myth No. 2:
"Women like a man with a big penis."
No, they don't... women are not looking for physical sensation like this during sex. They are looking for emotional connection, a feeling of being loved, a sense of being special and cherished, and closeness and intimacy with their partner....blah blah blah...

Oh puh-lease, that has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Of course size matters and no amount of male-ego-stroking or amateur-pop-psychology can change that. This kind of idiotic nonsense reduces female sexuality to being solely about intimacy and emotion to the complete neglect of the physical side of things -which is bollocks, frankly. Show me the woman who looks admiringly at a rock hard 4-inch cock and I'll show you someone who doesn't have a fúcking clue of how good sex can be and needs a good, proper ride.

watna

Tee hee... ride! Is there a better Irish slang word, I don't think so!

I think it matters to a certain extent. No woman wants someone tiny but you have to know what to do with it as well, and what to do in general!

Maple

Stargal wrote: »

Oh puh-lease, that has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Of course size matters and no amount of male-ego-stroking or amateur-pop-psychology can change that. This kind of idiotic nonsense reduces female sexuality to being solely about intimacy and emotion to the complete neglect of the physical side of things -which is bollocks, frankly. Show me the woman who looks admiringly at a rock hard 4-inch cock and I'll show you someone who doesn't have a fúcking clue of how good sex can be and needs a good, proper ride.

LOL. I'm with Stargal on this. Size does matter. Nothing worse than a pencil penis. But having said that there is no good in having a 12inch monster if all you do is bang away at her with it, you need a bit of finesse about you.

Catari Jaguar

It's all about girth....

challengemaster

randylonghorn wrote: »

Aye ... it may be an issue for 15-17 year olds, but after that most of us grow up and cop on ... though that doesn't stop us taking the pish out of ourselves (or others!) ...

*cough* Boards nick *cough*

Generalising bastid, aren't ya?

You left out the word 'some' - just fyi (shorthorn)

randylonghorn

challengemaster wrote: »

Generalising bastid, aren't ya?

You left out the word 'some' - just fyi (shorthorn)

LOL ... ok, Rickmeister, I'll actually accept the "infraction" for that one, I was generalising, in fairness. But I think you'll agree that it is more likely to be an issue of major concern to guys in their teenage years, especially if they happen to be late bloomers ... fair enough?

Stargal wrote: »

Oh puh-lease, that has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Of course size matters and no amount of male-ego-stroking or amateur-pop-psychology can change that. This kind of idiotic nonsense reduces female sexuality to being solely about intimacy and emotion to the complete neglect of the physical side of things -which is bollocks, frankly. Show me the woman who looks admiringly at a rock hard 4-inch cock and I'll show you someone who doesn't have a fúcking clue of how good sex can be and needs a good, proper ride.

I would agree to an extent ... and the bit I've bolded I would agree with wholeheartedly, tbh. The best sex results from a combination of the emotional and the physical ... for both genders. That said (and again, I'm taking an extreme example to make the point), which would you prefer ... a guy with an 9 incher (and proportionate as to girth) who thinks he is the universe's gift to women, and it's WHAM, BANG, THANK YOU MA'AM ... or a guy with an average endowment who actually knows what he's doing, and takes the time to make sure you're not just along for the ride (pun intended) ?

maple wrote: »

But having said that there is no good in having a 12inch monster if all you do is bang away at her with it, you need a bit of finesse about you.

Aye ... kinda what I was trying to say ...

challengemaster

randylonghorn wrote: »

LOL ... ok, Rickmeister, I'll actually accept the "infraction" for that one, I was generalising, in fairness. But I think you'll agree that it is more likely to be an issue of major concern to guys in their teenage years, especially if they happen to be late bloomers ... fair enough?

If you're trying to imply that somehow you're talking about me, you do realise you'll get a right slap next time I see you!

But yeah, it can happen. that said, I'd assume the same sort of shít goes on with wimmins and their boobs?

randylonghorn

challengemaster wrote: »

If you're trying to imply that somehow you're talking about me, you do realise you'll get a right slap next time I see you!

LOL ... actually I wasn't, you paranoid git! ... especially as for some reason I thought this thread was in a different forum, so was answering perhaps slightly more seriously than is my wont!

challengemaster wrote: »

But yeah, it can happen. that said, I'd assume the same sort of shít goes on with wimmins and their boobs?

Probably ... I'd say almost definitely, but as I'm judging only by hearsay, I will leave the residents give you a more informed answer.

JC 2K3

fits wrote: »

So why do I get all these emails in my spam filter every day with titles such as 'new bigger dick will turn you into multiorgasmic man'? Surely they're not sending them out for fun? :eek:

Maybe *you* are not concerned about it, but a lot of men seem to be... or seem to think that women care about size, which they dont for the most part.

It's not wise to make assumptions based on spam. Given how easy it is to send out emails, if they can get one in a million curious (idiotic) guys to click on the link to their site, then their spam campaign has been successful. And sending them out very often can make some men believe that they some how need a bigger penis, much in the same way that aggressive advertising has caused many women to believe that they need to wear makeup every day to look attractive.

A lot of men are concerned about penis size? Pfft... more like a negligible amount, most of whom probably actually have a legitimate reason for concern.

pretty-in-pink

Not to small, not too big. When guys lie about their size, they invaribly use the same size. All of them. Women talk, so we know you're lying

fits

JC 2K3 wrote: »

It's not wise to make assumptions based on spam. Given how easy it is to send out emails, if they can get one in a million curious (idiotic) guys to click on the link to their site, then their spam campaign has been successful. And sending them out very often can make some men believe that they some how need a bigger penis, much in the same way that aggressive advertising has caused many women to believe that they need to wear makeup every day to look attractive.

A lot of men are concerned about penis size? Pfft... more like a negligible amount, most of whom probably actually have a legitimate reason for concern.

The assumption wasnt based just on spam of course... Are you mad? But the point I was trying to make is that there is obviously enough people out there to create a market for size enhancing..... same as there is for diet pills, and viagra.
I was reading an article at the weekend, and I cant remember where it was for the life of me, but it described how the men belonging to some ancient South American civilisation used to wear ridiculously large penis cover thingys (I cant remember their proper name either)... Its no new thing that penis size is connected with masculinity in a lot of people's minds.

I agree with Stargal to some extent as well... female sexuality certainly isnt just about feelings and emotions and all that.

Jesus Wept

I'll give any of you fine women 15"

If you are willing to take it in installments

doonothing

The-Rigger wrote: »

I'll give any of you fine women 15"

If you are willing to take it in installments

heh

Slow Motion

Stargal wrote: »

Oh puh-lease, that has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Of course size matters and no amount of male-ego-stroking or amateur-pop-psychology can change that. This kind of idiotic nonsense reduces female sexuality to being solely about intimacy and emotion to the complete neglect of the physical side of things -which is bollocks, frankly. Show me the woman who looks admiringly at a rock hard 4-inch cock and I'll show you someone who doesn't have a fúcking clue of how good sex can be and needs a good, proper ride.

:rolleyes:Show me someone that shallow and I'll show you someone...well shallow who will end up marrying her dildo !

*Page*

Size was never a concern as long as they could use it.
My man makes me happy. thats all thats needed.

nomorebadtown

do women ever worry about having big vaginas?

if a guy worrys thats his lad is to small to pleasure his woman...

does a girl worry that her snatch is too loose to pleasure her man...?

i'm not just talking about women who have just had kids but in general...i doubt it. why?

because society does not put emphasis on a woman needing a tight vagina in order to be good in bed...

where as there is expectation on men that they need to be hung in order to be a sexual tyrannosaurus...?

is either true? probably not..

is this the price men pay for being seen by society as the more sex driven gender? probably

this is an unfortunate social norm that does noone any good. i have an average sized penis (according to the stats i find on google). I have had one complaint in my sexual past that my penis was too small. the comments never arose again after we acually got down to it.

i think it would be foolish for us to think that a larger penis is not more appealing to most of us asthetically - they look better and when used correctly probably feel better too but as has been said time and again if the the know-how is lacking, its generally just gonna be a crap shag anyway.

the focus on penis size as being "big cock = good...anything that is not big cock = bad" to me is a sign that the person does not even know the meaning of good sex, the penis should only be the tip of the iceberg (careful now) as there are so many other wonderful things we can do to eachother.

people have preferences. thats allowed. and i would imagine most women would prefer more than less and most men would prefer something tight and frictionful but in this crazy mixed up world of ours there is so little time so lets just relax, and enjoy what we got:)

nomorebadtown

nomorebadtown wrote: »

do women ever worry about having big vaginas?

if a guy worrys thats his lad is to small to pleasure his woman...

does a girl worry that her snatch is too loose to pleasure her man...?

Yes , Look up kegel exercises on google

Its something a woman can can do before or after childbirth or at any stage of her life to ensure she is kept "tight" I'm 22 and I've heard of them and practised them a good while also as it increases orgasm
Its not just a male thing probably just more commented on when a woman is speaking about how sex is with a man abd since women talk more news travels faster:D

nomorebadtown wrote: »

i'm not just talking about women who have just had kids but in general...i doubt it. why?

because society does not put emphasis on a woman needing a tight vagina in order to be good in bed...

where as there is expectation on men that they need to be hung in order to be a sexual tyrannosaurus...?

is either true? probably not..

is this the price men pay for being seen by society as the more sex driven gender? probably

this is an unfortunate social norm that does noone any good. i have an average sized penis (according to the stats i find on google). I have had one complaint in my sexual past that my penis was too small. the comments never arose again after we acually got down to it.

BaZmO*

nomorebadtown wrote: »

do women ever worry about having big vaginas?

if a guy worrys thats his lad is to small to pleasure his woman...

does a girl worry that her snatch is too loose to pleasure her man...?

i'm not just talking about women who have just had kids but in general...i doubt it. why?

because society does not put emphasis on a woman needing a tight vagina in order to be good in bed...

But I'm sure plenty of them worry about the size of their baps.

Anti

To a certain degree i would imagine size matters, say 5" or smaller. That must be nightmare for a woman. Unless its at thick as a can of coke. Then again there is a porn star shane diesel, the dude is hung like a donkey, and look like one to boot. I dont understand how these women enjoy something that size, must be acting.

Lola123

Stargal wrote: »

Oh puh-lease, that has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Of course size matters and no amount of male-ego-stroking or amateur-pop-psychology can change that. This kind of idiotic nonsense reduces female sexuality to being solely about intimacy and emotion to the complete neglect of the physical side of things -which is bollocks, frankly. Show me the woman who looks admiringly at a rock hard 4-inch cock and I'll show you someone who doesn't have a fúcking clue of how good sex can be and needs a good, proper ride.

You speak the truth stargal!

Terry

My cock is huge and I'm great in bed.
PM me.

Tree

Terry wrote: »

My cock is huge and I'm great in bed.
PM me.

should great a great deal for the cock, poultry sells pretty well near xmas. i'm also great in bed, could sleep all day for ya

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

mine is tiny, and I'm also pretty bad in bed.

dont bother pm'ing me.

DublinWriter

Stargal wrote: »

Show me the woman who looks admiringly at a rock hard 4-inch cock and I'll show you someone who doesn't have a fúcking clue of how good sex can be and needs a good, proper ride.

...possibly sideways.

In all seriousness, size does count, only in the context of us guys being 'normal'. What's normal? Google it!

But I will relay one story an ex told me about an ex of hers. He books a romantic weekend away somewhere, they hadn't slept together beforehand.

The go back to the hotel room, he's on the bed as she comes out of the shower.

He's had a few too many and says to her "I've got something to show you", she goes "Oh really, what's that?" and he proceeds to whip back the sheets revealing himself naked and in a state of high arousal.

At this point in the story I asked her what the problem was. She said he was small.

"Oh", I say, getting a little bit self conscious by now, "how small exactly?"

Then she proceeded to hold out her girly-pinky finger "just a little smaller than that".

"What, erect?" I say.

She nods.

Apparently her ex never showered with other guys in a school/sport shower before and he was of the opinion that his two-inch appendage (when fully erect) was normal male-issue.

Myself, I couldn't laugh at this, as much as you're possibly laughing now. What horror the future held for that guy I could only begin to imagine.

Thankfully, 80% of us are normally endowed and know that it's not the size of the wand, it's the magic that it weaves.