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Serious Noise Problems with Affordable House

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    #32
    BostonB
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    Nice people do not start drilling and banging at 8pm when theres a baby next door. They are just being selfish.

    http://www.environ.ie/en/Environment/NoisePollution/


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    #33
    jdivision
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    Sounds like they're doing it after work. I'm not sure if you can do anything because they don't seem to have needed planning - planning usually stipulate 8am-7pm as only hours where noise can be made and they have to start a bit later at weekends.


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    #34
    sham69
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    Cheers all for the replies.
    Its just annoying that they don't do the heavy drilling during the day.
    It seems that its mates that are doing a favour by doing it after work and so we have to suffer. They havent even moved in yet and they are not around when the work is being done so its not them that have the headaches from the noise, it sounds like they are going to come through the wall.
    I hate arguing and know its tough for them as I think the house was in worse shape than they knew when they bought it, I just think it is a little bit selfish not to at least knock in and tell us that the noise would be bad. a bit of common courtesy between neighbours. If this is what they are like now I fear the worst for the future. I suppose bottom line is I am really annoyed at the fact that they know we have a new baby but still couldnt bother to knock in and tell us.
    Thanks all for listening, needed to get it off my chest as my missus is giving me grief for causing the hassle (she's in work today and I am on babysitting duties.).
    Hopefully they will only be another weeks or so.
    Thanks Again.


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    #35
    BostonB
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    At the very least could they not do it at the weekend and warn you first. You could arrange to stay overnight if you knew in advance.


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    #36
    The_Conductor
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    Sham69 - unfortunately, regardless of how much you hate arguing- you are going to have to get yourself together and go and talk to them. If they continue to ignore you and your family's best interests- then you should officially complain. I went through the exact same thing as you, overnight masonry drilling allday/allnight work at weekends for a 6 month period for what seemed like a small job. I got all sorts of assurances from the people concerned that it wouldn't impinge on me- assurances that weren't worth the breath they were said in. For the sake of your family officially complain and do it immediately. Nice neighbourly spirit doesn't exist anymore- don't be fooled.


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    #37
    sham69
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    Thanks again for the replies.
    I am now understanding that neighbours are not what they used to be.
    When I lived with the folks (only 2.5 years ago) there was a great spirit around the road. If a picture was being hung on a wall someone would call in to say there would be noise. I didnt want to threaten any action against them as they are a young couple trying to get their house in shape. I was simply annoyed at the lack of common courtesy displayed by them. I am only renting the house so feel a bit cheeky. They said nearly all of the heavy stuff is done so hopefully it is. I have a bad feeling about them as new neghbours, not the best of starts and after having a chat (arguement) with the girl yesterday I would say she takes no prisoners. She accused me of telling the worker to stop (when I knocked in to ask would the drilling be going on for long) He got on the phone and rang her and she came steaming around to my house. I really don't need the hassle at the moment as my baby boy is teething badly and we are not sleeping. I will see how the next couple of days go and take it from there.
    Thanks again all for the replies and support.


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    #38
    The_Conductor
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    It really sounds like the writing is on the wall.
    Thankfully you're renting- and not likely to have to put up with them for years to come. Remember that you're family comes first- don't put up with crap from her just because "she takes no prisoners". She is the one at fault- she is trying to turn the situation so that you feel guilty.

    S.


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    #39
    SimpleSam06
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    sham69 wrote: »
    He got on the phone and rang her and she came steaming around to my house.
    I had a similar problem myself at one stage. The couple next door took off to a hotel for the night and we had to put up with drilling and banging for the entire night. Next morning I was on the phone to the council (its affordable housing or something next door I think) and it didn't happen again. You're in the right, if she comes steaming around again let her know you wont hesitate to move to the next level. Its the only way to deal with people like that.


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    #40
    sham69
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    The missus is giving me grief as as she says " They are well within their rights"
    to be doing what they are doing. I simple want some notice if they are going to be doing heavy work, is it too much to ask for. I thought there were rules for banging and hammering on Sundays but obviously there isn't.
    If it carries on I will have to threaten action, which I don't want to do but as said here; family comes first.
    I will keep you all posted.


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    #41
    The_Conductor
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    sham69 wrote: »
    The missus is giving me grief as as she says " They are well within their rights"
    to be doing what they are doing. I simple want some notice if they are going to be doing heavy work, is it too much to ask for. I thought there were rules for banging and hammering on Sundays but obviously there isn't.
    If it carries on I will have to threaten action, which I don't want to do but as said here; family comes first.
    I will keep you all posted.

    They are not "well within their rights" to be doing this.

    Noise, including that coming from other homes, that is continuous, repeated, loud and occurring at such times and of such duration that it affects the quality of life of the person is covered in Irish law.

    The law in Ireland governing this area is (Section 108) of the Environmental Protection Agency Act 1992 and the Environmental Protection Agency Act (Noise) Regulations 1994 (SI No. 179 of 1994). While the law does not specifically mention an exact level or standard of noise that is illegal, it is clear that if neighbourhood noise is affecting the quality of life of a citizen, then you have a right to complain. Your local authority has the power to investigate complaints about neighbourhood noise and also has specialist equipment that measures levels of sound.

    Rules
    Making a complaint
    You should approach the person or business causing the noise and explain that it is a nuisance and try to come to a mutually acceptable solution. If this does not work, your local authority has the same power as individuals to bring noise complaints to the District Court. In addition, local authorities have similar powers to the Environmental Protection Agency in relation to premises, processes and works other than those that require licensing under the Environmental Protection Agency Act. The Environmental Protection Agency can require the person or body to take specific measures to prevent or limit noise. Anyone required to take such specific measures by the Environmental Protection Agency must do so or face prosecution.

    If you wish to make a complaint to the District Court, you are not required to be represented by a solicitor, however, you may engage the assistance of a solicitor to help prepare your noise complaint and present this in court. You should consult with the Clerk of your local District Court about an appointment for the hearing of your case and refer precisely to the law relating to your case (Section 108 of the Environmental Protection Agency Act 1992 and the Environmental Protection Agency Act 1992 (Noise) Regulations 1994 (SI No. 179 of 1994).

    The appointment for the hearing of your case must be at least 7 days later than the date on which you inform the person responsible for the noise nuisance that you will be taking your case to court. You must use a Environmental Protection Agency Act, 1992 - noise form of notice to inform the person or business that you will be taking them to court. It is important that you use this form of notice only and that you complete it fully and accurately.

    The District Court will call both parties together and listens to both sides of the case. If the court finds in your favour, it can order the person or body to limit the noise, reduce the level of noise or stop the noise completely. Any Orders made by the court must be complied with.

    Penalties for breach of law
    The maximum fine for conviction on breach of noise regulations is 3,000 euro or 12 months in prison or both.

    How to apply
    Approach the person responsible for the noise and try to reach a mutually acceptable solution. If you have tried to resolve the problem amicably and this has not worked, you may then refer your complaint to your local authority, or you can take your complaint directly to your local District Court or the Environmental Protection Authority.

    Where to apply
    Environmental Protection Agency
    P.O. Box 3000,
    Johnstown Castle Estate
    Co. Wexford.
    Tel: (053) 60600
    Fax: (053) 60699
    E-mail: info@epa.ie


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