International football is boring so..who's gona win the premiership?

PHB

Just to get the whole thing going
United to win
Chelsea/Arsenal for 2nd/3rd
Liverpool 4th
City to come 5th

I think that in terms of squad depth, United have more than Fabregas, sorry Arsenal do Chelsea still haven't found their balance in attacking land yet, so I can't see them being consistant enough. Liverpool are still lacking in too many areas and can't expect Gerrard and Torres to win every game for them.

Guy:Incognito

Manchester United

A Derby- Sunderland 1-2

aidan24326

Stekelly wrote: »

A Derby- Sunderland 1-2

You must be going from the bottom up.

United will win it, strongest squad. Won't be Liverpool anyway, but any of the other 3 could win it.

andrew1977

I expect Man United to win the league this season by at least 5 points .
Strongest squad since the treble winning year of 1999.

Smegball

United, not that I'm biased or anything!
Arsenal second, Chelsea third, Liverpool fourth, Portsmouth fifth, Man City sixth.

DSB

Chelsea

Arsenal
Man Utd
Chelsea
Liverpool
Aston Villa
Man City

Peyton Manning

United
Arsenal
Chelsea
Liverpool

Id fancy Chelsea to be United's biggest challenger but for the fact that they'll lose Drogba for the AFC. With Cech and Carvalho out for a few weeks, I also fancy them to drop some points in the near future. Given this, I think Arsenal will be second but I fancy United to win it by at least 5 points. Liverpool dont have the depth nor consistency to mount a credible challenge.

Dont be at yourself

Manchester United

Liverpool.

Believe.

Xavi6

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

Liverpool.

Believe.

Lol new season, same false hope.

Peyton Manning

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

Liverpool.

Believe.

Didnt believe last year. Or the year before that. Or the year before that. What makes this year any different - an overpriced young Spaniard with a poor goalscoring record?

leninbenjamin

Chelsea

on current form Arsenal...

I thought without Van Persie they'd struggle to score and thus maintain 1st. and Gilberto is on the bench these days! the only way i can see this coming to an end is Cesc getting injured, but even then Hleb is finally showing us what he's capable of, and through the centre too!

United have a better squad, but not by as much as some here like to think imo, and i feel in terms of blooding the newcomers like Tevez, Anderson and Nani, they are where Arsenal were last season, flashes but still not as consistent as one would like... but then i've seen a lot more of the Gunners this season than Utd.

Muff_Daddy

1) Man You
2) Arsenal
3) Chelski
4) Liverpool
5) Blackburn
6) Man City
EDIT: Whie I'm at it....
7) Everton
8) Tottenham
9) Pompy
10) Aston Villa
11) West Ham
12) Newcastle
13) Birmingham
14) Reading
16) Fulham
16) Bolton
17) Middlesboro
18) Sunderland
19) Wigan
20) Derby

Unearthly

This may come back to haunt me but i can see Man Utd being very comfortable around March.

Arsenal are just 1 season away from being a real force. I think they will drop a good few points soon.

Melion

Archimedes wrote: »

Didnt believe last year. Or the year before that. Or the year before that. What makes this year any different - an overpriced young Spaniard with a poor goalscoring record?

Can you explain why Ferguson has been trailing him for 4-5 years so? Why he came out a while back and said Torres was the player he wanted more than any other?

And just so you know, he has pretty much the same goalscoring record as your "best player in the world" Rooney. But you probably didnt know that

PHB

I thought 21 million for Torres was a pretty sweet deal, especially when you consider the fact that if he does move on in a couple of year, it'll be for at least 10 million (probably much more) in which case, it's not a bad investment at all.

DSB

Chelsea

Melion wrote: »

Can you explain why Ferguson has been trailing him for 4-5 years so? Why he came out a while back and said Torres was the player he wanted more than any other?

And just so you know, he has pretty much the same goalscoring record as your "best player in the world" Rooney. But you probably didnt know that

To be fair Rooney does so much more than just score. Torres wouldn't have half the workrate of Rooney.

Melion

DSB wrote: »

To be fair Rooney does so much more than just score. Torres wouldn't have half the workrate of Rooney.

How many times have you watched him?

DSB

Chelsea

Do you want me to count? Or will me saying a decent amount suffice? Either way I don't think Torres is a bad player by any means. Rooney is of a different class though.

Melion

Id rate Torres just as highly to be honest. Look how impressive he has been in his first year in another country

DSB

Chelsea

Pretty impressive. But hardly world class. He wasn't really world class in Spain either like. Maybe he'll grow to be a world class player though.

fortuneg

DSB wrote: »

Pretty impressive. But hardly world class. He wasn't really world class in Spain either like. Maybe he'll grow to be a world class player though.

It's his first year in a notoriously difficult league to settle into & he's doing very well. I've no doubt he'd be world class if he joined a team with as much ability as himself.
Rooney wasn't world class at Everton, he was a fantastic prospect just like Torres was at Athletico.

justfortherecor

Chelsea

Seeing arsenal come through the games against Liverpool and United recently has made me consider them as potential champions. The way they came back from goals down in both games shows a determination and confidence that hasn;t been at that club for a while.

If they come through the christmas period unscathed I think they could be well on track. United will be right up there with them though.

Chelsea might struggle badly in the next few games without Cech/Carvalho/Terry.

Liverpool? Well, if they get a consistent squad selection they have the means to mount a challenge but I'm not sure the current system they employ is right at all.

ziggy

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That_Guy

Chelsea

I'd love Newcastle to win it... but I think Arsenal will do it this year.

whatawaster

1 Man Utd (though I dearly hope I'm wrong)
2 Arsenal (won't fall away but come up just short)
3 Liverpool (providing Torres/Gerrard stay fit)
4 Chelsea (lots of injuries atm will hurt them)

(Top 4 all within 10 points I think)

5 Blackburn
6 Portsmouth
7 Man City
8 Aston Villa
9 Tottenham
10 West Ham
11 Newcastle
12 Everton
13 Reading
14 Sunderland
15 Fulham
16 Birmingham
17 Bolton
18 Wigan
19 Middlesbrough
20 Derby

Fratton Fred

Could you add a box that says "One of the above" for fans outside of the big four who don't a sick parrots prawn sandwich who wins it?:D

That_Guy

Chelsea

I agree with the previous post.

GuanYin

Looking at the league, I'd go with Arsenal however my football gut tells me it will be United.

Dont be at yourself

Manchester United

African Nations is gonna hurt Arsenal and Chelsea, what's their run of games like around then?

applehunter

Liverpool

Stupid

How can liverpool be ahead of Chelsea?

Unearthly

applehunter wrote: »

Stupid

How can liverpool be ahead of Chelsea?

Fans of Liverpool, or just plain idiots

Then again both are the same

Dave!

Harsh!

I fancy Unireh to do it Such a good squad and great attitude. Arsenal are just oozing with positive energy too, but I still see United nicking it.

RE*AC*TOR

applehunter wrote: »

Stupid

How can liverpool be ahead of Chelsea?

Because Chelsea look a bit flaky this season?

If I were to take what I've seen of the Premiership so far, and put aside the Man City's etc I would say Arsenal / ManU / Liverpool / Chelsea.

But that doesn't take into account how the rest of the season might go. There's a newt's fart between the teams at the moment, so the the head-to-head games will be very important. Chelsea are honestly the only team out of the four I would be very surprised to see win it this year. Why? They've sacrificed what has made them win it previously - their ugly style of football. They may become the next Arsenal and win it with free-flowing football, but Rome wasn't built in a day. This season will most likely be a transitional one.

Hobart

I can see Arsenal or Manu doing it, probably the Arse. Liverpool coming in third. Having said that, Liverpool are just a couple of players away from being true title challangers (yes I know it's been all said before) and a nice run up to Christmas and a bit of a spend in Jan might make the difference. Rafa has always said that it will take 5 years and, imo anyway, he's as good as his word.

I won't drag this thread anymore off topic than it already has been but, to say that Torres is not world class is simply wrong. He is a different player to Rooney and provides a different role/service to Liverpool than that of Rooney to Utd.

Even as a Liverpool supporter I would have to say that imo Rooney is the best player in the world, with Messi a close second.

PHB

Well the African Nations is January 20th to Feburary 10th. Maybe one week before that the players will leave. In which case, the Chelsea games will be,
Tottenham (H), Brum (A), Reading (H), Porstmouth (A), Liverpool (H)[on the 9th though, so only the people in the last stage won't be there]
Arsenal games will be
Brum (H), Fulham (A), Newcastle (H), City (A), Blckburn (H)

IMO there's only one real tough game in there for Arsenal, which is Blackburn. But it's at the end, so it'll only be the top players.

I think the effect of the African nations has been kinda over-emphasised. It'll hurt Chelsea more than it'll hurt Arsenal I think, but I don't think it'll decide the league.

As for the whole Chelsea vs. Liverpool. I can still see Chelsea putting together a run, they'v eshown they can do it. The fact that they are switching football means they are unlikely to be able to do this, but they know how to win games they shouldn't win. Liverpool still haven't shown they can put that run together

Pepe LeFrits

Arsenal will only lose Toure and Eboue for the ANC. Eboue isn't a first teamer anyway so it is only Toure who is the serious loss, with Senderos or Djourou likely to come in alongside Gallas. Unless of course Gallas happens to get injured at the same time, in which case there'd be serious problems.

Arsenal's run of games up until the New Year is much more significant than the games during the ANC, anyway.

United will win the league.

Dont be at yourself

Manchester United

PHB wrote: »

Well the African Nations is January 20th to Feburary 10th. Maybe one week before that the players will leave. In which case, the Chelsea games will be,
Tottenham (H), Brum (A), Reading (H), Porstmouth (A), Liverpool (H)[on the 9th though, so only the people in the last stage won't be there]
Arsenal games will be
Brum (H), Fulham (A), Newcastle (H), City (A), Blckburn (H)

IMO there's only one real tough game in there for Arsenal, which is Blackburn. But it's at the end, so it'll only be the top players.

I think the effect of the African nations has been kinda over-emphasised. It'll hurt Chelsea more than it'll hurt Arsenal I think, but I don't think it'll decide the league.

As for the whole Chelsea vs. Liverpool. I can still see Chelsea putting together a run, they'v eshown they can do it. The fact that they are switching football means they are unlikely to be able to do this, but they know how to win games they shouldn't win. Liverpool still haven't shown they can put that run together

I reckon both Arsenal and Chelsea have tough enough games coming up during the African Nations so. When you come up against the likes of Blackburn and Fulham, you're gonna want strong, athletic players like Essien, Toure and so on. With no Essien, Mikel and Kalou, the Chelsea midfield is a little lacking in steel. I'm not expecting either team's season to fall apart, but I'd be surprised if they took maximum points during that period, and any dropped points could be crucial come May, as the league is shaping up to be tighter than a duck's arse.

You also have to keep in mind that it's not just the matches they miss when they're away, but also the toll on their bodies that the tournament will have. Training and playing so much, so competitively and so far away for so long will mean the players wont be as fresh as if they had stayed with their team. There's gonna be a knock-on effect.


Regarding Liverpool/Chelsea. It's be silly to rule either team out.

Chelsea are playing good football, and Mourinho's departure wasn't the fatal blow many expected. Actions in the January transfer window could prove more important.

Liverpool are more than capable of putting a run together. We're all sick of hearing of how if the league started in October, Liverpool would be champions. Under Rafa, our best spell has generally been at the turn of the year - wasn't it around then that Reina broke the record number of games without conceding? Our season tends to tail off, but that can partly (not wholly, obviously) attributed to Rafa's attention wandering to our CL ties.

So, ifs & buts. Neither team are favourites, but neither team can be dismissed - not with so many variable in play. As a Liverpool supporter, I believe Liverpool will do it. That's not a decision of the head though, but of the heart.

Nunu

All I have to say on this is that anyone who agrees with the title of the thread needs to watch a re-run of the Venezuela v Bolivia World Cup Qualifier that has just ended...GAME OF THE FECKIN CENTURY!!!

International football is alive and well...you just need to broaden your horizons:D

AnCapaillMor

Chelsea

Arsenal hopefully, depending on how the rest of november and start of december goes, a notoriously bad patch for us always.

V9

Chelsea

Arsenal
Utd
Chelsea
Liverpool


I've said it many a time so far this season but if Arsenal keep playing like they do they have it in the bag, I don't believe Chelsea will take the title this year but I'd rather listen to a gooner than a utd supporter if they win the league