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"Genius"

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  • 19-11-2007 10:44am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭


    It's a very over-used term, but who in the field of music would you actually consider a genius?

    Stevie Wonder
    Bob Dylan
    Prince


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    not many

    add Frank Zappa and Sly Stone to Stevie and Prince for "musical" geniuses

    but it's really not worth debating imo. Is Michael Jackson a genius>>>>

    meh


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,790 ✭✭✭cornbb


    JS Bach and Aphex Twin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Probably the answers no one wants to hear, but:
    Pete Waterman (and Stock and Aitken)
    Simon Cowall
    Louis Walsh

    How these men got such mediocre acts to sell millions of records is nothing short of genius...


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,392 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    How these men got such mediocre acts to sell millions of records...

    ...is merely a sad reflection on the buying public who bought all the records.:(

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,452 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    whiskeyman wrote: »


    How these men got such mediocre acts to sell millions of records is nothing short of genius...

    Well said ! :D

    My choice : Charlie Parker

    Lennon & Mc Carthney


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,478 ✭✭✭Bubs101


    I'd go with the following

    Cowell
    Prince
    Jeff Tweedy
    Dylan
    Spector
    Eminem

    and wait for the backlash....
    Timbaland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Driver 8


    *lashes back*

    His solo stuff is dreck :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    Jimmy Page!


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    Chuck D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Rustar


    Mahavishnu John McLaughlin
    Jan Hammer
    Justin Hayward
    Peter Gabriel
    Sting
    Ian Anderson
    Robert Fripp
    Paul Simon in his early days


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Devin Townsend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭grumpytrousers


    Rustar wrote: »
    Paul Simon in his early days

    *QI style Klaxon and Siren*

    Ladies and Gentlemen, we have the first 'I preferred his earlier stuff' comment of the thread...

    now, if the rest of you can just be patient, i'm sure there'll be a 'Jeff Buckley, even though he only had one proper album' along in a minute...:D

    Oh - and mine's a Buddy Holly, by the way...if he'd lived, Elvis would only be a footnote in Rock'n'roll...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 almidonado


    Buddy Holly
    Indeed. People too often overlook him.

    My list of musical geniuses would in include him, as well as:

    Joe Meek, for being the first independed record producer, inventing reverb, drum loops, and other tricks that are now taken for granted, creating mind-bogglingly amazing sounds out of flushing toilets, and being a DIY inspiration.
    The Velvet Underground - How did they get that sound?
    The Kinks, or more specifically Ray Davies, for writing the world's greatest songs.
    Most of the unknown, unremembered garage bands from 60s America
    The Ramones, you have to admit, have had a huge impact. Although it was probably dumb luck rather than genius, and their influence also brought about some terrible, horrible anomalies... so I'm not too sure about that one.
    Django Reinhardt, purely for the wow factor, and also the inspiring life story.
    The Clash, purely for the choons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Don't usually participate in these types of threads but...

    Kurt Cobain
    Beck
    Glenn Miller
    Lennon-McCartney

    All because they had a unique talent that is fairly inimitable. Can't think of anyone else right now.
    whiskeyman wrote: »
    How these men got such mediocre acts to sell millions of records is nothing short of genius...

    I wouldn't dispute that except to say that they are genii (geniuses?) in the music-business rather than the field of music itself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭MoominPapa


    Davey Graham : the man who singlehandedly got the finger out of folkies earholes and thus gave us Pentangle, ISB, Fairport convention etc
    Frank Zappa : polymath, moralist, great tunes, funny lyrics, one of the least lazy people in history
    Ray Davies & the American Ray Davies - Robbie Robertson : both show us how the past, present and future are one meandering line


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Kevster


    Ludwig Van Beethoven because he spent about 22 years composing his 9 symphonies. He kept chopping and changing them until they were right in his eyes.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    Gram Parsons


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Moby


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭MayMay


    Moby
    Michael Jackson (despite being a freak, he's a genius in my eyes)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    Davei141 wrote: »
    Moby

    Is he really smart??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭JIZZLORD


    Mike Patton


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭'Ol Jack Chance


    IMO any of these guys: dylan, bruce springsteen, tom waits (what the hell is he building?), bowie, the big O and Johnny Cash.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 hobo!


    aphex Twin!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Outer Bongolia


    Ralf Hutter and Florian Schneider (KRAFTWERK)

    Richard James (APHEX TWIN)

    Holger Czukay, Damo Suzuki, Irmin Schmidt, Jaki Liebeziet, Michael Karoli, what amazing musicians(CAN)

    Mark Oliver Everett, plus his father actually was a genius of science (EELS)

    Stephin Merritt (MAGNETIC FIELDS)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭herbieflowers


    Moondog


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭lucyburn


    Girls Aloud
    Spice Girls
    Take That
    Shane Ward
    Kylie
    Madonna


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    lucyburn wrote: »
    Girls Aloud
    Spice Girls
    Take That
    Shane Ward
    Kylie
    Madonna

    Seriously GTFO !!

    If your 12 you are excused. Otherwise read above.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭blueandgreen


    beethoven
    mozart
    lennon
    mccartney
    dylan


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭lucyburn


    Anti wrote: »
    Seriously GTFO !!

    If your 12 you are excused. Otherwise read above.

    They might not be your cup of tea but those artists have given me so much joy over the years.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    lucyburn wrote: »
    Girls Aloud
    Spice Girls
    Take That
    Shane Ward
    Kylie
    Madonna

    You're joking right ???

    You should be shot for this statement...

    We're talking about musical geniuses not wannabe pop crap idiots...


    Hendrix
    Frusciante
    Jimmy Page
    Lennon
    McCartney
    Bowie
    Dylan

    Chopin
    Beethoven
    Puccini
    Yo-yo ma
    Ennio Morricone

    Vivaldi's four season is the most amazing musical composition ever in my opinion so he would also be in my list...

    I could add to this list all day....


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