Wife swap!!!!!......I mean rifle swap

rabbit Stew

Hello everyone,
I've got a .22 air-rifle and i was wondering does anyone know if it is possible to get this license changed over for a .22 rimmy?

The lad in the local gun shop said it should be no bother but i am dubious.
Surely nothing can be that simple in this wonderful country of ours or can it?

bunny shooter

Shouldn't be a problem as long as you go for up to .220 rifle, e.g. 22lr, 22wmr, 22 hornet, 17 hmr, 17 REM, even 220 swift

rabbit Stew

Hi bunny shooter,
What would be the protocol?
I assume i'd have to trade in the puffer and get the serial number of the new rifle (cz 452 .22lr).

rabbit Stew

Also, would it be an relative quick process?
It would be nice if it were in time for Santa.

bunny shooter

rabbit Stew wrote: »

Hi bunny shooter,
What would be the protocol?
I assume i'd have to trade in the puffer and get the serial number of the new rifle (cz 452 .22lr).

Either trade in air irfle or leave it in to be sold seperately. Pick "new" rifle get docket from dealer detailing rifle left in and one bought one and get an amendment done at the Garda station. Simple as that. Garda can amend it on the spot (maybe Firearms Garda only, depends on station)

Or keep original and go for another licence. 2 x rifle licences shouldn't be a major hassle to get ? Will take longer if recent developments are anything to go by

rabbit Stew

BUNNY SHOOTER---"Or keep original and go for another licence. 2 x rifle licences shouldn't be a major hassle to get ? Will take longer if recent developments are anything to go by"


Was thinking as much...
Think i'll just go for the straight swap.
Cheers bunny shooter.

tuxy

bunny shooter wrote: »

Shouldn't be a problem as long as you go for up to .220 rifle, e.g. 22lr, 22wmr, 22 hornet, 17 hmr, 17 REM, even 220 swift

This makes no sense to me, 220 swift is a serious round compared to the others in you list.

fat-tony

The Firearms Officer should be able to change your existing cert on the spot, usually providing that you can show that your current firearm has been taken in by a gun dealer. The regulations allow for a firearms substitution providing there is no change in excise duty - i.e. you can't substitute a rifle for a shotgun. This topic has been raised before.

Your experience with the Firearms officer may differ from mine:)

Rovi

tuxy wrote: »

This makes no sense to me, 220 swift is a serious round compared to the others in you list.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Irish firearms legislation and its implementation.
Unless things have changed very recently, that's how it works; .22 airgun = .22LR = .22WMR = .22 Hornet = .220 Swift.
They're all (nominally) 0.220 inch calibre, and that's all the system wants to know.
Anyone who knows anything about rifles knows it's daft, but that's how it is.

bunny shooter

tuxy wrote: »

This makes no sense to me, 220 swift is a serious round compared to the others in you list.

Thank you Rovi, it makes no sense, but does the law generally ?

bunny shooter

rabbit Stew wrote: »

Cheers bunny shooter.

No problem, glad I could help. Best of luck and hopefully you will have a smooth transition

rrpc

Rovi wrote: »

Welcome to the wonderful world of Irish firearms legislation and its implementation.
Unless things have changed very recently, that's how it works; .22 airgun = .22LR = .22WMR = .22 Hornet = .220 Swift.
They're all (nominally) 0.220 inch calibre, and that's all the system wants to know.
Anyone who knows anything about rifles knows it's daft, but that's how it is.

All that's totally irrelevant under the law as it stands. The law allows you to substitute anything for anything provided the rate of duty isn't higher.

That's it. There's no other restriction under the law much as some Gardai may believe (or want to believe).

Rovi

rrpc wrote: »

All that's totally irrelevant under the law as it stands. The law allows you to substitute anything for anything provided the rate of duty isn't higher.

That's it. There's no other restriction under the law much as some Gardai may believe (or want to believe).

Certainly, but "All that's" how it works in the real world at the counter in the Garda station.

rrpc

Rovi wrote: »

Certainly, but "All that's" how it works in the real world at the counter in the Garda station.

Maybe so in some stations and definitely in others

The point is that it's the law and everybody should know that (including Gardai).

rabbit Stew

bunny shooter wrote: »

No problem, glad I could help. Best of luck and hopefully you will have a smooth transition

Once again thanks bunny shooter but i am only getting a new rifle not a sex change.:D

bunny shooter

rabbit Stew wrote: »

Once again thanks bunny shooter but i am only getting a new rifle not a sex change.:D

Depending on the attitude of your local gardai a sex change may be less painfull

bunny shooter

rrpc wrote: »

All that's totally irrelevant under the law as it stands. The law allows you to substitute anything for anything provided the rate of duty isn't higher.

That's it. There's no other restriction under the law much as some Gardai may believe (or want to believe).

In my area if you want to substitute a 223 on a 220 licence then you have to reapply and pay for a new licence, same for 223 to 243, 243 to 6.5 etc

rrpc

bunny shooter wrote: »

In my area if you want to substitute a 223 on a 220 licence then you have to reapply and pay for a new licence, same for 223 to 243, 243 to 6.5 etc

Something similar exists on my planet, but they'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes

bunny shooter

rrpc wrote: »

Something similar exists on my planet, but they'll be first against the wall when the revolution comes

Vive la revolution !

rabbit Stew

I GOT IT.

Went into the local gun shop and guards today and all was done in less than time than it takes to make a bull a bullock.
Cheers everyone.
Will let you know when i pick it up.

bunny shooter

:cool:

fat-tony

rabbit Stew wrote: »

I GOT IT.

Went into the local gun shop and guards today and all was done in less than time than it takes to make a bull a bullock.
Cheers everyone.
Will let you know when i pick it up.

See - there is a Santa Claus:D Now don't go taking aim at his reindeers, at least not with a .22LR ........

rabbit Stew

Pick up the new rifle yesterday and set up my cheap scope on it today.
Awesome.

foxshooter243

I swapped 220 swift to 243 -no deer permit-my mate swapped
air rifle to 308 no problems............