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Worst car of the last 20 years

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    #32
    2347
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    Renault Laguna. Nice features but they last about a day and then it bursts into flames.


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    #33
    mildews
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭mildews


    2347 wrote: »
    Renault Laguna. Nice features but they last about a day and then it bursts into flames.

    Either that or the little guy inside on the dynamo buggers off and you cant start the damn things


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    #34
    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    mike65 wrote: »
    The Metro was launched in 1980. The nominations should be kept to new cars since 1987.

    Mike.

    Well the Metro Mk1 was in production from 1980 to 1990.

    Maybe the Fiat Regatta could get a honorable mention?

    As for Lada's there were not as bad as everyone thinks. It's just many owners never bothered to service them regularly. Just look in Russia, and many other ex-Soviet countries, there are still plenty of 20+ yr. old Lada's going around, in the harshest of conditions.
    One of the worst victims of rust ever

    The Fiat Ritmo's used to rust in the showrooms FFS!


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    #35
    Dampsquid
    Registered Users Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Dampsquid


    Landrover Freelander 1.8. Anyone that owned one will understand


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    #36
    Kali
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    Austin-Rover Montego.


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    #37
    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    Kali wrote: »
    Austin-Rover Montego.

    Petrol models: Yes
    Perkins diesel model: No
    MG version: No


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    #38
    Esel
    Registered Users Posts: 22,286 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    TwoShedsJackson wrote: »
    I think the Ritmo launched well before 1987, at least I seem to recall our next door neighbour having one back in what I think was the early 80s - she had the one with the amazing electrics, i.e. any time the horn was pressed, the speedometer needled jumped about 30 mph :)
    Must have had the rare Abarth nitrous kit fitted in the factory! They wired it to the horn. :eek:

    Not your ornery onager



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    #39
    vengeance52
    Registered Users Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭vengeance52


    legs11 wrote: »
    has to be a hyundai accent (all of them from any era....)

    always the last car in a line of traffic.

    id rather walk:)

    I second this. otherwise the punto


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    #40
    JHMEG
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    esel wrote: »
    Must have had the rare Abarth nitrous kit fitted in the factory! They wired it to the horn. :eek:
    ROFL!

    Back then, on a quiet night I think you could hear Ritmos rusting.

    The sad thing is I can still vaguely remember the TV advert from the time.


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    #41
    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    JHMEG wrote: »
    ROFL!

    Back then, on a quiet night I think you could hear Ritmos rusting.

    The sad thing is I can still vaguely remember the TV advert from the time.

    This one?

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=CAI9490QmeQ


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    #42
    JHMEG
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    Max_Damage wrote: »
    This one?

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=CAI9490QmeQ

    No, not the one. Jeez I'm gonna need hypnotism to get this one out, but iirc the Cliffs of Moher were in the ad (was obviously made for Irish market). Or maybe I just imagine the salt air rusting them away on the cliffs...


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    #43
    Wishbone Ash
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    Cosmo K wrote: »
    For me, absolutely no question, its the Opel Vectra B or Mk2 Vectra, the one that was built between 95-2002.
    Victor_M wrote: »
    I'll give it to the Vectra as the greatest pile of $hite as it pretends to be a good car, and lures you into a false sense of safety
    I agree. A truely awful car in every way. Mrs Wishbone Ash had one and I can't think of one redeemable feature on it! :(
    RobAMerc wrote: »
    Sorry I can't agree there, it was ugly but it wasn't a bad motorcar to be fair - the ride and handling was actually quite good.
    I had one. They're not much of a looker but fabulous interior, comfort, handling etc. A bit like driving around in your sitting room. ;)
    BrianD3 wrote: »
    I'll nominate the Volvo 440. A car that was marketed as being "good", was priced accordingly but didn't have much going for it compared to its class rivals.
    ....and had a Renault engine! ........enough said!
    E92 wrote: »
    As the worst car, the Nissan Serena by as country mile for me. The 2.0 diesel took 31.5, yes 31.5 seconds to hit 60 mph!They "improved":rolleyes: on this with the 2.3 diesel, that "only" took 27.8 seconds for 0-60! The vectra B was meant to be appaling too.
    I drove a 2.3 diesel on an errand for work. My God, what a piece of crap. It definitely was the most sluggish vehicle I have ever driven (agri vehicles excepted).
    JHMEG wrote: »
    Back then, on a quiet night I think you could hear Ritmos rusting.
    Bring it to a beach and it didn't need to be quiet to hear it rusting. It could be heard over the waves!

    Remember that silly air intake thing on the bonnet? It was usually the first bit to rust away and fall into the engine bay leaving a silly looking hole! :eek:


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    #44
    astraboy
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    junkyard wrote: »
    Any Alfa-Romeo, over-rated, overly complicated and unreliable pile of junk. They're the Fianna Fail of the car world, loads of promise, past glories that never happen but are strangely etched on their supporters minds and will turn on you and cost you a fortune.

    So a 156 or 147 is a worse car then a Punto, the woeful MK4 escort, the vectra? Come on, yes Alfas are a handful but they are great to drive, their pros outweigh their cons IMO.

    For me the worst car is the BMW 3 series compact. They never looked right. People bought them for the badge alone.


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    #45
    E92
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    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    I drove a 2.3 diesel on an errand for work. My God, what a piece of crap. It definitely was the most sluggish vehicle I have ever driven (agri vehicles excepted).


    Just to make it clear, I've never driven a Serena, so ~I don't know what they are like to drive, but I do know that unless it has go kart like handling(which I very much doubt) it still remains the worst car I've ever had the misfortune of being in. I'd rather be waiting for 40 mins for a bus(like I did today, just to be clear I turned up on time for a 1550 bus in Cork today, the bus goes every 25 mins and that never showed up, there was one at 1615 which came at 1630)and be inconvenienced like that than ever go in a Serena again. It really is that bad.

    Other cars I've had the misfortune of going in include the Skoda Estelle, which is the worst car without fail I've ever been in, it makes the Serena seem like a limo by comparison, and I couldn't stand the Volvo 340 either (but as these are more than 20 year old designs, I didn't include these as the thread was the worst cars in the last 20 years IIRC).

    As for rusty cars, wasn't the Lancia β the car famous for being heard rust on a quiet night well before the Ritmo was(back in the 70's I think the car was on sale then)?(the Ritmo has POS written all over it btw just looking at the thing).

    My family had a Mk5 Escort, and it was reliable if nothing else.


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    #46
    pburns
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    For pure unreliability and dodgy electrics - Megane Mk I or Laguna MkII?
    I had bad experiences with the former!

    The early '90s Escort definitely - although they inproved it drastically with that rushed facelift (I read - before my car owning days)

    Nissan Tilda has to be a contender today. I know it's probably reliable and well kitted out but...I mean COME ON - it's such a MUTT!!

    One of the worse cars I ever drove was a Hyundai Lantra - but it was a knackered LHD estate and the Koreans have come a long way since then...


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    #47
    Eoin
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    astraboy wrote: »
    So a 156 or 147 is a worse car then a Punto, the woeful MK4 escort, the vectra? Come on, yes Alfas are a handful but they are great to drive, their pros outweigh their cons IMO.

    Don't bother, he's just trolling as usual and looking for a reaction.
    astraboy wrote: »
    For me the worst car is the BMW 3 series compact. They never looked right. People bought them for the badge alone.

    I was going to say the same, but narrow it down to the e36 compact. The e46 compact was a far better car.


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    #48
    bazz26
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    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Have to pull you up on that bazz, they're uber-comfortable. not great handling, but very comfortable. Have you driven one? Not too many about

    What I really meant by comfortable was the ride. Never driven one but I did read many reviews of it. It received a terrible receiption here in Europe. Lexus had to make tweeks to the car a year after launch. This included suspension, steering and tyre upgrades. Car never really recovered from a sales perspective over this side of the Altantic. The Americas love it though but I reckon it was originally designed for them anyway.

    Not one of Lexus's better moments.


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    #49
    junkyard
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    eoin_s wrote: »
    Don't bother, he's just trolling as usual and looking for a reaction.



    I'm not trolling I have owned most of the range at one time or another mostly as trade-ins, and they have broken my heart and my wallet. I'm just saying it how I see it. It seems to me if you make a stand about any make of car which a few are infatuated with you get slated. I'm not just against Alfa's, Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen are down there in the gutter with them too in my book. I remember, as an apprentice panel beater, a truck load of Alfa's arriving at our garage to patch up the rust BEFORE they were delivered to the main dealers, granted they have sorted the rust problem, but it's about bloody time. All they have to do now is sort the electrics and the mechanicals.


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    #50
    unkel
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    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    E92 wrote: »
    As for rusty cars, wasn't the Lancia β the car famous for being heard rust on a quiet night well before the Ritmo was

    Most cars suffered from rust back in the day. Cheap Italian cars suffered way more than most. Didn't it have something to do with the left wing Italian government doing a deal with the commies and exchanging old production lines (remember the FIAT based Ladas?) for cheap sh!te steel?


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    #51
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,454 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    the steel was supposed to be regular quality but it turned out to be reclaimed steel from ships or submarines or something!

    It was called "technology for steel" where FIAT sold the tooling and technology for the 124 in exchange for loads of steel, seemed like a great deal for FIAT till they realised how crappy the steel was.


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    #52
    Max_Damage
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    unkel wrote: »
    Most cars suffered from rust back in the day. Cheap Italian cars suffered way more than most. Didn't it have something to do with the left wing Italian government doing a deal with the commies and exchanging old production lines (remember the FIAT based Ladas?) for cheap sh!te steel?

    Fiat got alot of cheap Russian steal (which was shíte) in exchange for design plans (i.e. Fiat 124 = Lada Riva).


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    #53
    bbability
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    Anything with a Rover badge. 200, 400 Freelander. All woeful.


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    #54
    Zonda999
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    As for that nissan serena, the engine was a 2.0d and the 0-60 time for the mpv version was 32 horrible seconds.In my book that takes the biscuit...
    Any1 interested

    http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=847723&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Nissan%20Serena%2C%20Year%3A%201995%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=14351796&CFTOKEN=32219625


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    #55
    Max_Damage
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭Max_Damage


    Zonda999 wrote: »
    As for that nissan serena, the engine was a 2.0d and the 0-60 time for the mpv version was 32 horrible seconds.In my book that takes the biscuit...
    Any1 interested

    http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=847723&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Nissan%20Serena%2C%20Year%3A%201995%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=14351796&CFTOKEN=32219625

    An automatic Serena, a snail would out-preform that.


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    #56
    joolsveer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭joolsveer


    E92 wrote: »
    What was a Ritmo? I never heard of one of them ever.

    As the worst car, the Nissan Serena by as country mile for me. The 2.0 diesel took 31.5, yes 31.5 seconds to hit 60 mph!They "improved":rolleyes: on this with the 2.3 diesel, that "only" took 27.8 seconds for 0-60! The vectra B was meant to be appaling too.

    It was called the Strada in England due to the dodginess of Ritmo in English.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fiat_Strada_105TC.jpg

    My dad had a grey Ritmo in the late 70s and we spent a lot of time pushing it.


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    #57
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,454 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Zonda999 wrote: »
    As for that nissan serena, the engine was a 2.0d and the 0-60 time for the mpv version was 32 horrible seconds.In my book that takes the biscuit...
    Any1 interested

    http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=Car&carID=847723&message=You%20searched%20for%3A%20Nissan%20Serena%2C%20Year%3A%201995%2E%20Your%20search%20returned%20one%20vehicle%2C%20which%20is%20shown%20below%2E&CFID=14351796&CFTOKEN=32219625

    The ones sold in Europe were 2.3 the Japanese domestic market models got a 2.0TD engine.


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    #58
    Max_Damage
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    joolsveer wrote: »
    It was called the Strada in England due to the dodginess of Ritmo in English.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fiat_Strada_105TC.jpg

    My dad had a grey Ritmo in the late 70s and we spent a lot of time pushing it.

    They were called the Strada in America too. Strange how they were called a Ritmo here however. I remember seeing a Strada for sale in America on eBay a few months back, the car fetched mad money for what it is (nearly $5,000!)


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    #59
    junkyard
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    And remember the Fiat Regatta, or Regreta as we used to call them, the English one was spelt Regata for some reason with only one "t". Every time you'd go to use it the clutch cable would break. Thank you FIAT for another pile of s*ite.:rolleyes: Most of the recent Nissans are terrible yokes too since they became infected by Renault, big, BIG mistake there Nissan, get out now while you still can!!:eek:


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    #60
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,454 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Wasn't the Regata basicaly a Ritmo with a boot?


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    #61
    junkyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,579 ✭✭✭junkyard


    It was, basically with a nose job and a boot and a different dashboard and a few other modifications.


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