FAI Cup Final - Cork City Vs Longford Town

gimmick

Well, the final is upon us - this Sunday, Decmeber 2nd.

Longford will have Gary Deegan suspended and City will have Neale Horgan suspended. City are the overwhelming favourites to win the cup for the first time in 9 years, but write off Longford at your peril. Their cup form should have them the tag as cup specialists as they have only lost 3 cup games under Alan Matthews, and that includes 3 finals, two of which were won.

Tickets sales are supposedly slow enough, but that is not too surprising given the timing of the game, 3 weeks after the season has ended.

Hopefully a good game, and hopefully a comfortable City win.

Prediction: Cork City 1 - 3 Longford Town

OhNoYouDidn't

gimmick wrote: »

Tickets sales are supposedly slow enough, but that is not too surprising given the timing of the game, 3 weeks after the season has ended.

Season hasnt ended yet, playoffs? :rolleyes:

gimmick wrote: »

Prediction: Cork City 1 - 3 Longford Town

No chance.

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OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Season hasnt ended yet, playoffs? :rolleyes:

What play offs are left?

Promotion/Relegation was decided on Friday.

Derry are in the Setanta?

What else is there?

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

No chance.

I agree, I think Cork City will win, quite comfortably.

Any neutrals going?

I'm heading along myself.

gustavo

Cork City 1-1 Longford Town

OhNoYouDidn't

DesF wrote: »

What play offs are left?

Promotion/Relegation was decided on Friday.

Derry are in the Setanta?

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I meant that there wasnt three weeks between the end of the season and the cup final. There was a week. Badly put by me.

Roar

there was a big thing on in south africa which everyone in the fai simply HAD to attend yesterday, which is why the final wasnt on yesterday, nothing to do with play offs..

City simply have to win this and i reckon we will. 2-0. Here's hoping the side that turned up in dalymount park for the semi turn up on sunday..

OhNoYouDidn't

Roar wrote: »

there was a big thing on in south africa which everyone in the fai simply HAD to attend yesterday, which is why the final wasnt on yesterday, nothing to do with play offs..

Or the fact that the RDS was unavailable. Whichever suits your agenda really....

A week after the season ends and not clashing with the world cup draw and Platini in attendance. How dare the FAI. :eek:

gimmick

Even though i know you are on a wind up, I would like to ask one question - if Rovers were in the cup final, and there was a 3 week gap between their last game of the season, would you be happy about it? The players have 2 weeks less holidays, a part time club like Longford have 3 weeks more outgoings for paying players and staff etc.

Its a ridiculous situation. The cup final should have been the weekend Nov 16th. End of story.

OhNoYouDidn't

gimmick wrote: »

Even though i know you are on a wind up, I would like to ask one question - if Rovers were in the cup final, and there was a 3 week gap between their last game of the season, would you be happy about it? The players have 2 weeks less holidays, a part time club like Longford have 3 weeks more outgoings for paying players and staff etc.

Its a ridiculous situation. The cup final should have been the weekend Nov 16th. End of story.

Who is on a wind up? The league campaign ended on Friday, the cup final is traditionally after this. Last weekend (the ideal date IMO) the venue was unavalable. Also senior FAI reps were needed at the WC draw. This weekend is the nearest available one and 8 days after the close of the league is not actually all that unreasonable.

Would I be happy? The gap isn't three weeks since the league ended, so unless you are arguing that the playoffs should be eliminated or the FAI cup final not the final game of the season, I dont see what the actual issue is here. If clubs had a problem with the date of the cup final, May was when these concerns should have been raised.

There are plenty of things to have a go at the FAI over, and this is not one of them.

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Here is the Original Fixture list, as issued to me, by the FAI, at the beginning of the season.

http://www.mediafire.com/?auein3d2ndi

It plainly has the Cup Final penciled in for the 25th November 2007.

Now, it wouldn't have taken a genius in the FAI to either

a. book the RDS for that date, well in advance.
b. enquire about a booking, then when told it is unavailable, put the new date on the original fixture list.
c. Find a suitable venue for that date.

Instead, they leave it to a few weeks before the scheduled date to tell the clubs.

Then the money fiasco too.

The FAI are squarely to blame here.

gucci

gimmick wrote: »

Hopefully a good game, and hopefully a comfortable City win.

Prediction: Cork City 1 - 3 Longford Town

so a comfortable win for city is them losing

im gonna back the town on this one, they're cup specialists and i think the players will want to pull off one big last effort to give the board the two fingers before going off to they're new clubs (either that or they don't want to win the club prize money and stuff and wont give a crap!)

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gucci wrote: »

so a comfortable win for city is them losing

He said he hopes City will win, but predicts they will lose.

gimmick

I said we City should win comfortably, afterall City have beaten Longford 3 times so far this season, but I think City will bottle it something huge on Sunday and Longford will win the cup.

At least thats what I meant.

Ronan|Raven

Deegan is a huge huge huge loss for Longford as his replacement is Cup Tied.

Might get the old boots out and resume my commanding roll in the centre of midfield

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Ronan, PM.

Gavin "shels"

Sound be a good game, might pop along if the weather is not to bad and I get out of bed.:)

applehunter

Bit of a buzz around at last.

Looking forward to a good day.

OhNoYouDidn't

DesF wrote: »

Here is the Original Fixture list, as issued to me, by the FAI, at the beginning of the season.

http://www.mediafire.com/?auein3d2ndi

It plainly has the Cup Final penciled in for the 25th November 2007.

Now, it wouldn't have taken a genius in the FAI to either

a. book the RDS for that date, well in advance.
b. enquire about a booking, then when told it is unavailable, put the new date on the original fixture list.
c. Find a suitable venue for that date.

FFSInstead, they leave it to a few weeks before the scheduled date to tell the clubs.

Then the money fiasco too.

The FAI are squarely to blame here.

FFS they tried a and did b des.

c isnt an option at the moment with Tolka in the state it is.

and clubs knew about this a lot more recently than 'a few weeks ago'.

another storm in a tea cup cheap shot at the FAI who havent actually done anything wrong here.

applehunter

Yes no shame on the FAI that they have no stadium of their own or even a back up that could hold a national final.

OhNoYouDidn't

applehunter wrote: »

Yes no shame on the FAI that they have no stadium of their own or even a back up that could hold a national final.

Name one other Football association that owns their own ground?

Gavin "shels"

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Name one other Football association that owns their own ground?

I think he meant a stadium to call a home, like Lansdowne always was, like Wembley to England, Scotland to Hampden Park, etc...

OhNoYouDidn't

Gavin shels wrote: »

I think he meant a stadium to call a home, like Lansdowne always was, like Wembley to England, Scotland to Hampden Park, etc...

Landsdowne was since the late 80's. Wembley is a rugby league stadium and Hampden is Queens Parks ground. Nothing to do with the FA or SFA.

You cant blame the FAI because Shels and Bohs have let their stadia fall to below health and safety requirements and the GAA are up to dirty tricks in Tallaght.

Nunu

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Landsdowne was since the late 80's. Wembley is a rugby league stadium and Hampden is Queens Parks ground. Nothing to do with the FA or SFA.

and Queens park own Hampden but it is very much the SFA's ground.

PDN

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Name one other Football association that owns their own ground?

The FA own Wembley Stadium.

applehunter

Who do people think will win?

A reproduction of the semi final performance will do for me.

my probable team for final

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Devine

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Kelly---Kelly---Murray

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Woods

Leon
McSweeney--Gamble---healy----Kearney


----O'Flynn

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Behan

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OhNoYouDidn't

Nunu wrote: »

and Queens park play at Hampden but it is very much the SFA's ground.

the SFA have offices in Hampden but the Stadium is owned, operated and used every 2 weeks by QPFC.

Wembly was home to rugby before football and is owned by a plc.

Most other countries use club stadia, like the FAI did until Bohs gave up on Dalyer and let it fall to pieces.

Its more complicated than the FAI not having built a ground, there are sod all facilities in Dublin suitable for a crowd of more than a few thousand full stop. Thats a broader issue that is being dealt with by clubs in conjunction with the FAI.

gimmick

applehunter wrote: »

Who do people think will win?

A reproduction of the semi final performance will do for me.

my probable team for final

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Devine

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Kelly---Kelly---Murray

---

Woods

Leon
McSweeney--Gamble---healy----Kearney


----O'Flynn

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Behan

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Kelly is barely good enough for one position, much less two in one game ;o).

I think you mean Lordan centre half with Sean Kelly right full? If so, I agree with that team. Unfortunately Farrelly will start even if everyone is fully fit.

Kearney and o Flynn are both injury concerns and will struggle to make it according to todays news.

OhNoYouDidn't

PDN wrote: »

The FA own Wembley Stadium.

Apologies, the current Wembley is owned by a company controlled by the FA. The old Wembley was not.

Thats the only example I can think of.

Nunu

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

the SFA have offices in Hampden but the Stadium is owned, operated and used every 2 weeks by QPFC.

Wembly was home to rugby before football and is owned by a plc.

Most other countries use club stadia, like the FAI did until Bohs gave up on Dalyer and let it fall to pieces.

Its more complicated than the FAI not having built a ground, there are sod all facilities in Dublin suitable for a crowd of more than a few thousand full stop. Thats a broader issue that is being dealt with by clubs in conjunction with the FAI.

Are you sure about Wembley?

Queens park do indeed own Hampden Pk, as I amended in my edit, but the SFA have pumped millions into that ground. They have the stadium on a 20 year lease since 2000 with an option for a further 20 years. So, to say they have nothing to do with Hampden Pk is wrong.

OhNoYouDidn't

Nunu wrote: »

Are you sure about Wembley?

No, see my post.

Nunu wrote: »

Queens park do indeed own Hampden Pk, as I amended in my edit, but the SFA have pumped millions into that ground. They have the stadium on a 20 year lease since 2000 with an option for a further 20 years. So, to say they have nothing to do with Hampden Pk is wrong.

I didn't. I just said they dont own it.

All I'm trying to say is that very few associations own any stadia and the FAI are no different. The lack of 10,000+ stadia in Dublin is as much an indictment of the Gah and Rugby as it is the LoI clubs.

Nunu

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Landsdowne was since the late 80's. Wembley is a rugby league stadium and Hampden is Queens Parks ground. Nothing to do with the FA or SFA.

You cant blame the FAI because Shels and Bohs have let their stadia fall to below health and safety requirements and the GAA are up to dirty tricks in Tallaght.

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

I didn't. I just said they dont own it.

All I'm trying to say is that very few associations own any stadia and the FAI are no different. The lack of 10,000+ stadia in Dublin is as much an indictment of the Gah and Rugby as it is the LoI clubs.

You did;)

I get your overall point now though...good work:D

gimmick

Funny, I thought this thread was about the FAI Cup final this weekend?

KdjaCL

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2668

if true good idea.

Will trim the non cup final crap from the thread.



kdjac

Ronan|Raven

Im looking forward to the Final as tbh it is the last "big day out" we will have for a long time I fear. Then again I do have the hotdogs in Monaghan to look forward to

Im hoping we can play as well as we have been doing as of late. There is a great spirit among the players. Shame Deegan will be missing and the few lads cup tied. On paper it is a one sided game and Cork should easily win but one must always hope for Corks players to think it is won and not turn up.

One thing is it is a chance to say farewell to most of the current team and thank them for the immense effort and passion they showed for the season despite all the **** reigned down upon them by the board and to say thanks to Matthews for sticking by us and nearly achieving the impossible.

Gavin "shels"

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

Then again I do have the hotdogs in Monaghan to look forward to

They've gone down hill, first time we played down there this season they were nice but the second time they were freezing cold:eek:

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b. enquire about a booking, then when told it is unavailable, put the new date on the original fixture list.

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

FFS they tried a and did b des.

Did B?

Are you for real?

Let me ask you a question here.

Either RDS was unavailable before the fixture list was drawn up, or it wasn't. If it was available, then it would have been booked. And the date would have been true.

If it was unavailable, for that date, before the list was drawn up, then they would have tried to book another date, got it, and then put that date on the list.

So they plainly didn't enquire about the RDS for the date they wanted, or make a booking for it, for the date they wanted.

Why are you defending them? They fúcked up here. And deserve criticism. The FAI should be severely criticised for every fúck up they make, criticised in every quarter.

For too long they have gotten away with sub-standard malpractice, and it's time, we, as fans of football on this island, and affected week-in week-out by the idiocy in the FAI, did something about it.

The FAI need to be brought to task at every opportunity. To be shown that we will no longer put up with this shabby treatment.

I never got an updated fixture list until the story broke a few weeks ago.

I get every fixture list update and fines/suspensions press release by the way.

patmac

Some people here remind me of a quote by SAF:"You know Dennis Wise. He could start a fight in an empty house."

Anyway I have to admire Alan Matthews, I live in the Shannonside region 50 miles from Longford and listen to the local radio which covers the town and Matthews was very downbeat at the start of the season with most of his squad sold trying to get a team together with trainees etc. Then came the points deduction and all seemed lost but a tremendous effort was made in which they almost survived and they then qualified for the Cup Final, I hope they win and wouldn't be surprised if they do.
Matthew's comes across in his interviews as a very good coach and I would be surprised if one of the "bigger clubs" don't snap him up.

Roar

Matthews is a bluffer, and his teams play the worst football on this island.

the premier league will be better without them

Ronan|Raven

Good old total football cork city.

patmac

Roar wrote: »

Matthews is a bluffer, and his teams play the worst football on this island.

the premier league will be better without them

To be pinned on the Longford Town dressing room wall?

gimmick

City will be wearing a special once off jersey for this on Sunday. The shirt is not too bad, but the new crest is too big and a bit shít.



Also, its great to see the players are focussed on the task at hand

From the Examiner

Gamble blasts City bosses

By Liam Mackey

CORK CITY midfielder Joe Gamble has blasted club bosses over the delay in sorting out player contracts, claiming the Leesiders “are known for these fiascos”. In an outspoken interview ahead of Sunday’s FAI Ford Cup final against Longford, Gamble said the contracts hold-out was “beyond a joke”. Since his comments, Cork have sorted the futures of four of the 11 players out of contract, but Gamble says that it’s hardly ideal preparation for the biggest game of the season. “Most of the lads are sick of it. Players should get respect, just like managers. You can’t tell a fellow at the end of the season that you don’t want him. Then what is he going to do? He has got to find a new contract. “It’s about respect. You tell a player if you don’t want him and that’s it. I know you have to deal with budgets, but that’s why people are in clubs as accountants and business people. Let them deal with that sort of stuff and you tell them who you want or who you don’t want.” Gamble believes the contract situation is symptomatic of wider problems at the club.“In general, this club is known for these fiascos. Until people actually really get a foothold and get things sorted and run the club properly, it’s always going to be like that here. I don’t know what any other club in Ireland would do, but definitely here we make life hard for ourselves. I should be talking about a cup final and not contracts.”

Ronan|Raven

How are the ticket sales down in Cork going Gimmick? Nothing spectacular thus far up here.

gimmick

Ditto. Sluggish at best. In fact, our Club Promotions Officer is offering freebies to anyone who will listen.

Ronan|Raven

not good. Then again the pissing rain and the RDS and a month after the end of the season may be having a bit of an effect. Unless in true Irish fashion everyone is leaving it till the day/ tomorrow to get the tickets.

Also the yer old logo was a lot better than the new one.

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gimmick wrote: »

Ditto. Sluggish at best. In fact, our Club Promotions Officer is offering freebies to anyone who will listen.

What? And I'm paying for one, like a schmuk.

Tell that CPO I want a free one.

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gimmick wrote: »

City will be wearing a special once off jersey for this on Sunday. The shirt is not too bad, but the new crest is too big and a bit shít.

What crest? I can't see it anyway.

Ronan|Raven

There will be a minutes silence before Kick off for Longfords President who passed away yesterday. RIP Peter Keenan.

Ronan|Raven

Just over twenty four hours to go.

Walking in a Flancare wonderland....

SectionF

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

You cant blame the FAI because Shels and Bohs have let their stadia fall to below health and safety requirements

The sheer neck of it! :eek:
At least when Dalymount is sold it'll be replaced.

MrJoeSoap

Kevin Doyle is joining the RTE coverage tomorrow.

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MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Kevin Doyle is joining the RTE coverage tomorrow.

Very good, he always comes across as a nice fella.

I'm looking forward to this, I'll be in with all the Corkies, in my Shels jersey.