Montenegro the bigger threat then Bulgaria in our group?

darkman2

Ive a sneeking suspicion about these guys. They are not a 6th seed team (and are only rated there because the country has only come into existence really)and those who watched the CL last night will will seen a couple of them in action......cant remember the names but one scored a good goal against Barca I think. Did'nt our under 21 side get beaten by Montenegro a couple of weeks back?

With Bulgaria we have some idea of what to expect but with Montenergro we dont know. They could, in fact, be worthy 3rd seeders!? Im more worried about them then Bulgaria tbh.

Anyone have any idea how good they are or what to expect?

PiE

Hungary 2-1
Japan 0-2
Colombia 0-1
Slovenia 1-1
Sweden 1-2
Estonia 1-0

So no, no they shouldn't be any more of a threat than any other minnow.

I would hope we don't play them first though - as they'll be pumped up for their first ever competition as a nation.

astrofool

If they are better than the Faroes, they represent a huge threat to us (the Faroes being an amber on the threat scale).

luckylucky

It's a pretty small country, population is only about 3/4 million or so. Saying that the teams from the former Yugoslavia are unlikely to be a total pushover. So I'd agree that they are probably better than a 6th seed team but I think it's highly unlikely that they will be the same sort of threat as Bulgaria to us, possibly the same sort of threat as Georgia and even Cyprus though.

jArgHA

astrofool wrote: »

If they are better than the Faroes, they represent a huge threat to us (the Faroes being an amber on the threat scale).

hehe

Vokes

darkman2 wrote: »

and those who watched the CL last night will will seen a couple of them in action......cant remember the names but one scored a good goal against Barca I think.

Don't think so.

You might mean Vucinic. He scored twice for Roma last night.

shane86

We couldnt have got a worse team. They are the only 6th seeders who can go abroad and win a match. Estonia really should be a bit better given they have more than a million people, but i saw them play England, they are awful. Not sure they got a decent attack going the whole game.

Hungary 2-1
Japan 0-2
Colombia 0-1
Slovenia 1-1
Sweden 1-2
Estonia 1-0

Who scored which in these? And its certainly not the goalfest most countries have when playing the 6th seeds.

Im normally optimistic but there isnt a hope in hell we will even get a play off without some kind of miracle. In fact I think this campaign will maul our seeding down a place or two.

Raekwon

I agree.

Montenegro will not be the pushovers that most people are expecting them to be. They are easily the most dangerous 6th seeded opponents that we would could have possibly drawn. All of the other 6th seeded teams were virtually 6 point bankers for us.

They have some decent players like Mirko Vučinić from Roma (scored 4 goals in 4 games for his country already), Branko Bošković (ex-PSG midfielder now with Rapid Vienna) & 6'4 Sporting Lisbon striker Milan Purović.

The away game against them will be interesting, I doubt may team’s bar Italy will come away from Podgorica/Cetinje will all 3 points.

MrJoeSoap

Raekwon wrote: »

All of the other 6th seeded teams were virtually 6 point bankers for us.

There is no such thing any more.

BaZmO*

Although I don't want to underestimate any team, if we can't get 6 points from the likes of Montenegro we might as well forget about qualifying.

event

they arent that great lads, look at their squad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montenegro_national_football_team

they have a few good players, but with a good manager, we should beat them

darkman2

BaZmO* wrote: »

Although I don't want to underestimate any team, if we can't get 6 points from the likes of Montenegro we might as well forget about qualifying.

Agree.


With Ireland all our opponents need to do, based on recent evidence, is have an imtimidating away atmosphere and below average players and then we are in trouble. i.e Cyprus....

An Citeog

luckylucky wrote: »

It's a pretty small country, population is only about 3/4 million or so. Saying that the teams from the former Yugoslavia are unlikely to be a total pushover. So I'd agree that they are probably better than a 6th seed team but I think it's highly unlikely that they will be the same sort of threat as Bulgaria to us, possibly the same sort of threat as Georgia and even Cyprus though.

They have a population of under 700,000. That other small country with 4 million is called Ireland!

They're an unknown quantity and as such, Ireland will need to be very wary of them. With proper preparation we should have more than enough to get 6 points from them.

justfortherecor

I wouldn't be too confident about getting the 3 points in the away fixture anyways. 6 point bankers they certainly are not.

Savman

These days it would seem everyone is a threat to oirland.

herbieflowers

no surprise really, when we just about beat San Marino

pd101

I agree. Think we should be very wary of them.

kaisersose77

One of their young players was linked to Man Utd last month for £7 million and they have 2 players playing for Sporting Lisbon (one of them was playing against Man Utd on Tuesday).

Playing away to them aint going to be easy at all


edit:

This guy was linked with Man Utd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevan_Joveti%C4%87

Theres no comparison between these and the usual minnows. Ireland simply have no easy team like they usually have.

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kaisersose77 wrote: »

Theres no comparison between these and the usual minnows. Ireland simply have no easy team like they usually have.

Ireland are minnows.

Every team in the group has an easy time, it's Ireland.

Lads, we could barely beat San Marino, got hammered by Cyprus.

chopperbyrne

Des is right. We've regressed to pre-Charlton days again. We're the six point banker.

BaZmO*

chopperbyrne wrote: »

We're the six point banker.

Really? So which team in our last qualifiers got 6 points off us? And the one before that?

We've certainly edged towards being minnows again but you're just talking nonsense.

shane86

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Des is right. We've regressed to pre-Charlton days again. We're the six point banker.

What?

If Germany failed to beat San Marino convincingly the managers head would be called for. Ditto Czechs. There was no calls when they got by on 1-0 wins or drew with the Irish. Compare that to the scandal when the Czechs either drew or narrowly beat the Cypriots (cant recall which), it caused uproar.

Some people are being overly negative tbh. We are seeded 3rd of a possible sixth, could be worse (though tbh I dread to think of where we might end up after the 2010 qualifiers. Montenegro is going to be a curse, of course we had to have the misfortune of test driving them)