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Dell Poweredge Server €149 exVAT

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,036 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    I'm quite a lengthy story about my server.

    Monday: Ordered it through the EPP link for €188 about 2.30PM and got my Internet Acknowledgement e-mail. The IR reference and e-mail address showed no order record on the website. Said I'd give it 24 hours for it to appear.

    Tuesday: At about 3PM, it still wasn't on the site. Rang them about it and got through to a sound bloke who said sometimes orders on the Net tend to disappear (how reassuring!) and that if i give him the details of the server, he'll put through the order again. Now i didn't really want to do this because I knew if he put it through with the details i gave him, I wouldn't be getting the EPP discount. So i said i was away from my desk and forget the exact details so I'd send him on the Internet Acknowledgement e-mail with the details (and €188 price tag)! :) So I sent it on and he never got back to me but around 8PM that night, i got an e-mail from another Dell agent telling me she put through the order and attached a PDF of it with the €188 price tag and all. I was all in the clear!

    Wednesday: Got a call from the guy who i was talking to on the phone originally saying he didn't get a chance to put through my order yesterday and that it was an incorrect price and cannot be honoured. I then said to him i got an order confirmation from one of your colleages who put it in at that price so i'm not believing this misprice thing if your colleague successfully honoured it for me. He said he's gonna look into it and talk to his manager about it. And that he'd ring me in the afternoon. Got no call!

    Today: At about 11.45AM, i got a phone-call from him saying sorry he's only getting back to me now and that i will get the server at that price. And for any other sales enquiries i have to phone him directly.

    So whether i'll get it or not now - have had no order confirmation but the €188 is still reserved on my card!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭syboit


    basquille wrote: »
    I'm quite a lengthy story about my server.

    Monday: Ordered it through the EPP link for €188 about 2.30PM and got my Internet Acknowledgement e-mail. The IR reference and e-mail address showed no order record on the website. Said I'd give it 24 hours for it to appear.

    Tuesday: At about 3PM, it still wasn't on the site. Rang them about it and got through to a sound bloke who said sometimes orders on the Net tend to disappear (how reassuring!) and that if i give him the details of the server, he'll put through the order again. Now i didn't really want to do this because I knew if he put it through with the details i gave him, I wouldn't be getting the EPP discount. So i said i was away from my desk and forget the exact details so I'd send him on the Internet Acknowledgement e-mail with the details (and €188 price tag)! :) So I sent it on and he never got back to me but around 8PM that night, i got an e-mail from another Dell agent telling me she put through the order and attached a PDF of it with the €188 price tag and all. I was all in the clear!

    Wednesday: Got a call from the guy who i was talking to on the phone originally saying he didn't get a chance to put through my order yesterday and that it was an incorrect price and cannot be honoured. I then said to him i got an order confirmation from one of your colleages who put it in at that price so i'm not believing this misprice thing if your colleague successfully honoured it for me. He said he's gonna look into it and talk to his manager about it. And that he'd ring me in the afternoon. Got no call!

    Today: At about 11.45AM, i got a phone-call from him saying sorry he's only getting back to me now and that i will get the server at that price. And for any other sales enquiries i have to phone him directly.

    So whether i'll get it or not now - have had no order confirmation but the €188 is still reserved on my card!

    sounds like dell were caught on the hop, with the extra EPP discount. Seems they tried to cancel as many as possible but some sales rep's still put them through at that price. Great all the same :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,946 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Update posted in the Tweaking/Modding thread... short version - it's working with a 7300 LE :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,249 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    there's possibly some company out there who have lost their EPP scheme with dell...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,036 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    there's possibly some company out there who have lost their EPP scheme with dell...
    How'd you work that out? :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭zod


    right, built one with XP last night with the integrated video card and the cheap komplett sound card, perfect for browser / office user / home user.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭eoinoc333


    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    Update posted in the Tweaking/Modding thread... short version - it's working with a 7300 LE :)

    So you filed notches into your graphics card?

    I'm considering cutting off the notches of the PCIe x8 slot in my machine instead. But that would void warranty though.

    My graphics card is a 3-year old PCIe x16 ATI Radeon X800 SE, from my old Dimension PC.

    Any advice?

    (
    Modding PCIe slot on SC440:
    http://www.davtar.org/blog/?p=24

    Related info, modding older SC420:
    http://www.poweredgeforums.com/showthread.php?t=1899
    http://www.tkdan.com/SC420/
    )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭forbairt


    eoinoc333 wrote: »
    So you filed notches into your graphics card?

    I'm considering cutting off the notches of the PCIe x8 slot in my machine instead. But that would void warranty though.

    My graphics card is a 3-year old PCIe x16 ATI Radeon X800 SE, from my old Dimension PC.

    Any advice?

    )

    From the forums it would appear you'll only get x1 from your 8x slot ... whereas you'll get 4x from your 4x slot ... This is based on what I read so I could be wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,523 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    zod wrote: »
    right, built one with XP last night with the integrated video card and the cheap komplett sound card, perfect for browser / office user / home user.
    Bog-standard XP install process? Someone mentioned using 'slipstream' earlier in the thread to do do this. Is 'slipstream' necessary (and if so, what is it?!).

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,397 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    esel wrote: »
    Bog-standard XP install process? Someone mentioned using 'slipstream' earlier in the thread to do do this. Is 'slipstream' necessary (and if so, what is it?!).

    slipstreaming is making a custom xp install cd using a program like n-lite... not sure why its necessary, maybe it needs sata/raid driver to be loaded before the xp setup. Usually this can be done by pressing f6 at the beginning of a normal xp install, and loading these driver files from a floppy disc


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  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭eoinoc333


    forbairt wrote: »
    From the forums it would appear you'll only get x1 from your 8x slot ... whereas you'll get 4x from your 4x slot ... This is based on what I read so I could be wrong.

    Thanks. I chipped and chisled away the end of the x4 slot. Just about got my card in, it was difficult to cut away enough plastic with the "hobby" knives I have (scalpels). Tried to heat blades with a candle. Working fine now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    eolhc wrote: »
    slipstreaming is making a custom xp install cd using a program like n-lite... not sure why its necessary, maybe it needs sata/raid driver to be loaded before the xp setup. Usually this can be done by pressing f6 at the beginning of a normal xp install, and loading these driver files from a floppy disc
    The reason it might be needed is, as you said.. you load from floppy.. however... there is no such thing as floppies any more.. well there are but you do not get them in PC's/servers any more.
    And there is no other way of loading the drivers as xp setup only looks on a floppy drive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,744 ✭✭✭deRanged


    eolhc wrote: »
    maybe it needs sata/raid driver to be loaded before the xp setup.

    yup, you need to slipstream service pack two so it has SATA drivers before it will install. Otherwise it will fail during the installation saying that there's no drive in the machine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,397 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    thought i saw a floppy listed in the server spec, but just checked and your correct

    microsoft released a version of xp sp3 two days ago btw, so might be worth integrating that into the install, only tested it quicky but integrates and installs fine (on old pc).

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-XP-SP3-RC1-Build-3244-Download-Here-73554.shtml


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,523 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Thanks for that info, guys.

    [edit] btw, could I copy an existing IDE boot drive to an external SATA drive and pop this in? Retiring XP from the existing IDE drive of course.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Either put your ide on the IDE channel on the motherboard, or put it in an IDE USB caddy.
    Then if its just files you want, copy them.. or you can use a clone tool like norton ghost etc. You could just clone the drive to keep the os, then run windows repair to get it working and installing the drivers for the motherboard (otherwise it will not boot).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,523 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Thanks for that, Saruman.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭zod


    esel wrote: »
    Bog-standard XP install process? Someone mentioned using 'slipstream' earlier in the thread to do do this. Is 'slipstream' necessary (and if so, what is it?!).

    I had an regular install disk with SP2 included already.. t'was easy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭TakeTheVeil


    anyone get drivers for the ethernet connection? the drivers on the dell site require windows 2000 or windows server 2003.

    Drivers for the onboard graphics worked a treat thou


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭TakeTheVeil


    cheers, they worked grand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,036 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Mine arrived this morning!

    Thanks again to the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭Zilog


    Mine also arrived this morning!

    Mucho gracias to all for the heads up on this deal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭TakeTheVeil


    That must mean that pretty much everyone who has theres by now. Time for some modding. I'm hoping to get a decent sound and graphics card with a slight ram upgrade and keep it all under €300 total.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭LawnMower Man


    Got my pair of servers today as well!

    Might have a stab at getting xp going on it later on.

    Do you have to cut a bit out of the slot or the graphics card to make it fit?

    Which slot is it you use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,946 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Got my pair of servers today as well!

    Might have a stab at getting xp going on it later on.

    Do you have to cut a bit out of the slot or the graphics card to make it fit?

    Which slot is it you use?

    X4 slot. I did it last night and it's working fine. :)

    Check out my post in the thread in Tweaking and Modding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    I wanted to put XP on my machine but it just won't work! It goes through the full install (about 30mins) and then when it gets to start XP it just hangs when the "knight-rider" lights come on!!! It will start in safe mode OK but can't get XP working fully. After 3 attempts we gave up and installed Vista instead, which is working fine. I rather have it running XP instead though. Anyone have any ideas? I should add that I tried two different copies of XP both with SP2 with no joy.:confused:

    invest4deepvalue.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭forbairt


    Do-more wrote: »
    I wanted to put XP on my machine but it just won't work! It goes through the full install (about 30mins) and then when it gets to start XP it just hangs when the "knight-rider" lights come on!!! It will start in safe mode OK but can't get XP working fully. After 3 attempts we gave up and installed Vista instead, which is working fine. I rather have it running XP instead though. Anyone have any ideas? I should add that I tried two different copies of XP both with SP2 with no joy.:confused:

    To the best of my knowledge windows install with xp sp2 doesn't have the SATA drivers installed ...

    You'll want to check out slipstreaming Windows XP SP2

    http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/winxp-sp2-bootcd.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    forbairt wrote: »
    To the best of my knowledge windows install with xp sp2 doesn't have the SATA drivers installed ...

    You'll want to check out slipstreaming Windows XP SP2

    http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/winxp-sp2-bootcd.html

    Don't think that's the prob as it is seeing the hard drives OK.....

    invest4deepvalue.com



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭forbairt


    Do-more wrote: »
    Don't think that's the prob as it is seeing the hard drives OK.....

    sorry I should have read your full post instead of jumping to conclusions ... tired


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,523 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    My friend's box arrived today; expecting to see mine when I get home later, as both ordered on same card and had same the delivery date (19 Dec) on Order Confirmation.

    Hearty thanks to the OP and to all the posters who posted valuable info/techniques to this thread.

    Collecting a Creative Audigy 2 ZS and a Samsung 913N 19" LCD tomorrow (thanks to www.adverts.ie !). A new or s/h graphics card and a wireless USB desktop from Tesco for €20 are next. Will swap an external SATA 250GB HDD for one of the drives. Probably stick a DVD RW drive into it at some stage.

    An older PCI graphics card and installed HDDs will probably do for friend's setup - mainly business/office use and Internet. They went for the DVD/CDRW upgrade for about €35 extra.

    Just a quick question on slipstreaming - am I right in thinking that if I already have a full XP SP2 CD, I don't need to slipstream - just install as normal?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    esel wrote: »
    I don't need to slipstream - just install as normal?

    Correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Could anyone tell me how easy it would be to stick in a new motherboard in there? I haven't seen any recent dells, but some of them had an entirely different structure from the standard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    You might have a problem, if for no other reason than if you got the xeon upgrade, as a lot of us did... your average home mobo will probably not accept a xeon cpu. I could be wrong, i have never looked into putting a xeon in a home system.

    Oh i got mine on monday, so far i have taken it out of the box and took a quick look inside. No controller card, i do have the xeon sticker so i assume i will have a xeon inside :D

    I will power it on at the weekend and decide what to do with it.. damn bargain.. i had no need of this at all :D At best i can replace my media centre with it as it might make a little less noise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭zod


    Just modded the PCIe slot and stuck in a 7300GT ( €50 on dabs.ie )

    now getting the following score on Windows Vista experience meter :

    ratingee9.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭forbairt


    zod wrote: »
    Just modded the PCIe slot and stuck in a 7300GT ( €50 on dabs.ie )

    now getting the following score on Windows Vista experience meter :

    ratingee9.jpg

    Cheers for reposting ... and good to hear its working well :)

    I've no experience with vista ... what is a good score with the experience meter ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭tadgh


    Any chance of a pic of the modded PCI-e slot?
    And details of the best method to use in performing the mod.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭zod


    I've no experience with vista ... what is a good score with the experience meter ?

    I believe 6 is the highest you can get .. so well chuffed with the card.

    tadgh wrote: »
    Any chance of a pic of the modded PCI-e slot?
    And details of the best method to use in performing the mod.

    Its actually really easy .. used two knifes .. one with a serated edge and the other with a plastic handle.

    Heat the knife with plastic hanldle on a cooker or whatever

    Basically saw at end of slot and then clean out with the hot knife .. repeat three or four times and presto!

    See here for pic http://thebsdbox.co.uk/photos/d/4954-2/DSC_0006.JPG

    and here for more info http://thebsdbox.co.uk/?p=21


  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭pavelpro


    zod wrote: »
    Just modded the PCIe slot and stuck in a 7300GT ( €50 on dabs.ie )

    now getting the following score on Windows Vista experience meter :

    ratingee9.jpg

    Which video card u used

    This one ?
    NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB DDR2 PCIE DVI TVO

    Or that one ?
    Dabs Value NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 128MB DDR3 PCIE DVI TVO

    Thanx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭zod


    pavelpro wrote: »
    Which video card u used

    This one ?
    NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB DDR2 PCIE DVI TVO

    Or that one ?
    Dabs Value NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 128MB DDR3 PCIE DVI TVO

    Thanx


    The Dabs value one .. http://www.dabs.ie/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=43G4



    Manufacturer : DABSVAL
    Product : GF 7300GT 128MB DDR3 PCIE TVO
    Quicklinx : 43G4WS
    Quantity : 1
    Price exc VAT : 45.85 EUR
    Price inc VAT : 55.47 EUR

    u can run two monitors off of it if you need to also





    Total costs to date

    PC : €188
    Video Card €54 + shipping = €59
    Sound card €8 + shipping = €18
    Ram 2GB + shipping €60

    total €325 .. now whats a good game to test it with ??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Lord Deco


    zod wrote: »
    The Dabs value one .. http://www.dabs.ie/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=43G4



    Manufacturer : DABSVAL
    Product : GF 7300GT 128MB DDR3 PCIE TVO
    Quicklinx : 43G4WS
    Quantity : 1
    Price exc VAT : 45.85 EUR
    Price inc VAT : 55.47 EUR

    u can run two monitors off of it if you need to also

    Total costs to date

    PC : €188
    Video Card €54 + shipping = €59
    Sound card €8 + shipping = €18
    Ram 2GB + shipping €60

    total €325 .. now whats a good game to test it with ??

    Meh
    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 Processor (2.20GHz,800MHz,2MB cache) edit
    OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition - English edit
    HARDWARE SUPPORT Base Warranty - 1 Year Business Hardware Support edit
    MONITOR Monitor Not included edit
    MEMORY 2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024] edit
    HARD DRIVE 320GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA/100 Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache edit
    GRAPHICS CARD Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100 edit
    OPTICAL DRIVE 16x DVD +/- RW Drive edit
    KEYBOARD Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY) edit
    MOUSE Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse

    E-Value Code
    305-D122003

    €337.12 delivered

    8400gs €47

    http://www.dabs.ie/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4M63&CategorySelectedId=11137&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11137,11,43990000,4294953682

    €384....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    zod wrote: »
    I believe 6 is the highest you can get .. so well chuffed with the card.

    5.9 is the max so you're right on the money there.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Lord Deco wrote: »
    You know, this card is not as powerful as the 7300 GT according to the specs. Everything about the 7300 is faster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Lord Deco


    Saruman wrote: »
    You know, this card is not as powerful as the 7300 GT according to the specs. Everything about the 7300 is faster.

    Its not as powerful,but both cards are crap in terms of performance tbh....its €10 cheaper too,with better hd playback


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭LawnMower Man


    Got a 256 meg graphics card today that I bought on ebay and performed surgery with a steak knife on the 4x slot, luckily I have a gas cooker, had the job done in 5 minutes and the card worked first time! even though 3/4 of the pins were hanging out over the slot.

    Thanks lads for the best bargain of 2007 !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,523 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Just a couple of questions:

    Do I cut the regular PCI slot?

    What is the best card to get and where?

    btw, Tesco have a USB wireless keyboard and mouse for €20 (Techniks brand).

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭LawnMower Man


    Hi,

    No dont cut the white PCI clots.

    Theres 3 black slots, a small, a medium and a large one.

    I cut the end ( Not the whole end just the bit of plastic in the middle of the end of the slot) off the medium one so as to allow the card to slot in, you will find half of the pins of the graphics card are hanging in mid air but it works.

    The big black slot seems to involve more work as there is a couple of more dividers in there to be cut out.

    Easy Job 5 minute work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭shanethemofo


    jaysus

    € 764.00 Now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭MayoForSam


    Another successful upgrade to report here (typing on it as I speak)!

    Just received a 7600 GS graphics card I got on Ebay for 35 euro (passive cooling). Cut out the slot using a soldering iron with a fine tip, used a box cutter blade to clean up the debris. Plastic melts out real easy, no problem, about a 10 minute job.

    Stuck in a cheapo PCI sound card and hey presto! Both 7600GS and sound card worked first time (Ubuntu install off the CD, recognized and installed hardware drivers first time, I can see some advantages of open source already). Machine is running pretty quiet, might be tempted to use it as a media PC, I have a big sideboard unit downstairs beside my TV into which the unit should fit. I will be upgrading the 2nd 80GB HD (it's disabled by default) to a 320 GB or larger unit in a week or two. Also might do a dual-boot install of Windows and stick in an extra GB of RAM (ECC only apparently).

    All-in-all, an excellent bargain alert and a fine way to start the New Year :D.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 newrossman


    A couple of things to point out.

    The are loss makers to get more customer on board
    The pcie is/was a x16 but reduced via bios/adaptor to x8, you can mod the slot but then the bois drops to x1 speed.
    The x4 slot works fine with any pcie card once you mod it.

    Come on guys do you really think Dell are that stupid to give this stuff away for free!.


    Ohh also this will work on all cards up to 8800 gtx pcie x 16.
    http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/pciexpressx4tox16adapter-p-4568.html


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