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Mazda and Ford 1.6 Diesel to be big winners

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  • 07-12-2007 1:04pm
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    kluivert
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    I done the maths of the Mazda 1.6 Diesel Touring model.

    If you purchase a Mazda 3 1.6 diesel after July VRT rate will reduce from 25% to 16% based on CO2 rating published in brouchure of 128mg.

    Car Tax will reduce from 453.33 (414 + 9.5%) to 150e per year.

    Mazda 3 is very reliable and comfortable to drive. Ideal for me. At 26,995e + 375e for metalic paint I will be watching the price list very very closely come July 08.

    I will be very interested to see if the distributors change the base price on cars to reflect the changes made in the budget or will they increase the price of cars like the Mazda 3. I reckon they will increase the base price. Its Ireland after all, this is how things work here.

    Remember when the Euro was introduced, alot of shops used it to increase their prices.

    Wait and see!


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    Ice_Box
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    And the new Focus 1.6D will come in at the bottom band due to 115g/km


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    OldmanMondeo
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    kluivert wrote: »
    Car Tax will reduce from 453.33 (414 + 9.5%) to 150e per year.

    I think your getting mixed up with the road tax and the VRT. Road tax on a 1.6 will be 453.33, or rounded off.


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    E92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭E92


    kluivert wrote: »
    I done the maths of the Mazda 1.6 Diesel Touring model.

    If you purchase a Mazda 3 1.6 diesel after July VRT rate will reduce from 25% to 16% based on CO2 rating published in brouchure of 128mg.

    Car Tax will reduce from 453.33 (414 + 9.5%) to 150e per year.

    Mazda 3 is very reliable and comfortable to drive. Ideal for me. At 26,995e + 375e for metalic paint I will be watching the price list very very closely come July 08.

    I will be very interested to see if the distributors change the base price on cars to reflect the changes made in the budget or will they increase the price of cars like the Mazda 3. I reckon they will increase the base price. Its Ireland after all, this is how things work here.

    Remember when the Euro was introduced, alot of shops used it to increase their prices.

    Wait and see!

    As I told you before they have to pass on the VRT saving/increase to you because to do otherwise is contrary to EU block exemption laws. The Opel Astra 1.3 CDTI falls into the 16% VRT band, since it pollutes 130 g/km.


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    yellow012
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    Skoda Octavia 1.9tdi is going to be a winner as well. If E92 vrt calcs are correct then the price is going to drop from €25920 for the elegance model to €23142 and the road tax will drop from €550 to €150.


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    kindalen
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    not sure,but is a facelift octavia due soon? might be worth checking...


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    kluivert
    Registered Users Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭kluivert


    OldmanMondeo wrote: »
    I think your getting mixed up with the road tax and the VRT. Road tax on a 1.6 will be 453.33, or rounded off.


    Telling an accountant that he go his taxes wrong - are you mad :D

    What I meant was the difference in the savings if you where to buy brand new on 31/07/2008 compared to if you where to buy on 01/01/2008 for the same car.

    Sorry if I didnt make this point clear.


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    Altreab
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    E92 wrote: »
    As I told you before they have to pass on the VRT saving/increase to you because to do otherwise is contrary to EU block exemption laws. The Opel Astra 1.3 CDTI falls into the 16% VRT band, since it pollutes 130 g/km.

    What if they maintain the present prices but improve the spec of the cars? adding things like traction control, extra air bags.This would allow importers to maintain the present prices but not break the block exemption. (or have i got that arseways) Not having "special irish" models would also have a cost saving at production level. EG: making all UK and Irish models the same spec.


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    Gegerty
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    Ice_Box wrote: »
    And the new Focus 1.6D will come in at the bottom band due to 115g/km

    Save your money and buy the petrol model. It'll be money well spent.


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    E92
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭E92


    Altreab wrote: »
    What if they maintain the present prices but improve the spec of the cars? adding things like traction control, extra air bags.This would allow importers to maintain the present prices but not break the block exemption. (or have i got that arseways) Not having "special irish" models would also have a cost saving at production level. EG: making all UK and Irish models the same spec.

    No you don't have it arseways. They could leave prices alone, as long as they increase the spec count so that the pre tax price is the same for the rest of Europe, that would be perfectly OK. You're still gaining because you now have a higher spec car.

    When I say the pre tax price has to be the same I mean if you buy any car here and exactly the same car, same spec, engine etc somewhere else in the EU the pre tax price has to be identical. Different pre tax prices must mean that the spec level is different.


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    prospect
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    No mention of the company that actually designed and build the 1.6 diesel engines used in both Mazdas & Fords :rolleyes:


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    ninty9er
    Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Altreab wrote: »
    What if they maintain the present prices but improve the spec of the cars? adding things like traction control, extra air bags.This would allow importers to maintain the present prices but not break the block exemption. (or have i got that arseways) Not having "special irish" models would also have a cost saving at production level. EG: making all UK and Irish models the same spec.

    I can see it now. DPP adds ALL other importers to the exitsing list of Ford and (was it Mazda) as Price Fixing Defendants for High court case on competitiveness!! :D:D


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