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Ford RS200

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  • 08-12-2007 5:44pm
    #1
    Niall1234
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    Just how rare are these cars and how much would a person be looking for a decent model ?

    I'm guessing there isn't much on the road which could keep up with one.


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    maidhc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,660 ✭✭✭maidhc


    Niall1234 wrote: »
    I'm guessing there isn't much on the road which could keep up with one.


    Only 200 ever built:

    How about one of these
    http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/index.htm?banhammaestrof.htm

    :D


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    Hotwheels
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    They are very rare, it was Ford's answer to the other Group B cars like the T16, but Group B was banned and the rest is history....
    Last time I saw one for sale was years ago and they were looking for £50K for it at the time..But to give you an Idea on price Clicky1

    Expect to pay up to 100K sterling for one...


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    drdre
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    Hotwheels wrote: »
    They are very rare, it was Ford's answer to the other Group B cars like the T16, but Group B was banned and the rest is history....
    Last time I saw one for sale was years ago and they were looking for £50K for it at the time..But to give you an Idea on price Clicky1

    Expect to pay up to 100K sterling for one...


    Oh my god 100k,There is so many nice cars you can get for 100k.You can actually get a 07 M5 and a Ferrari 360 (not including our rip off vrt)

    Who is mad to buy one of those rs200 :(


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    Hotwheels
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    drdre wrote: »
    Oh my god 100k,There is so many nice cars you can get for 100k.You can actually get a 07 M5 and a Ferrari 360 (not including our rip off vrt)

    Who is mad to buy one of those rs200 :(
    I would if I had the Money....:)


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    maidhc
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    drdre wrote: »
    Oh my god 100k,There is so many nice cars you can get for 100k.You can actually get a 07 M5 and a Ferrari 360 (not including our rip off vrt)

    Who is mad to buy one of those rs200 :(

    Because an Rs200 would be indeterminably cooler, and would mean much more to a lot of petrol heads than an M5 or Ferrari.

    on a lesser scale you can ask why people are paying £10k+ for Mk2 Escorts when that would buy you a fine "normal" car.


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    Hotwheels
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    maidhc wrote: »
    Because an Rs200 would be indeterminably cooler, and would mean much more to a lot of petrol heads than an M5 or Ferrari.

    on a lesser scale you can ask why people are paying £10k+ for Mk2 Escorts when that would buy you a fine "normal" car.

    There's a few MK11's being Rallied using a sequential box and 2.4 litre Millington engine. Very Very quick cars.. €30K++ for one..
    And a few with Mazda RX7 engines :)
    Mind you a nice RS 200 in the drive would be cool...Ahh well maybe next Lotto:)


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    2qk4u
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    Saw this at the Trim show this summer...
    DSCF0035-1.jpg
    DSCF0034-1.jpg


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    Max_Damage
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    98 D ? Mustn't have been registered in about 10 years. Probably sitting in a museum.

    Came up on Cartell as a Subaru Impreza.


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    ianobrien
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    They were a few replicas built, some with spaceframed chassis and YB engines and more on RWD Rover 200 turbos!

    After some research, they were built between 85 & 86, and the last one was sold in 89 (I think)

    With a 98 reg, it looks like a replica based on a Rover 200.

    Edit - It's missing the intercooler from the roof, so I'd say a replica!


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    Blue850
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    ultimate Group B has to be Delta S4
    lancia_delta_s4_san_remo.jpg
    1.7 supercharged and turbocharged.

    quote from www.rallycars.com

    To give you an idea of the kind of performance GroupB cars were capable of I'll mention that in the 1986 season Henri Toivonen made two laps around the Estoril circuit, during a stage of the Portuguese rally, the fastest of which, in 1 minute and 18,1 seconds, would have qualified him in the sixth position of the F1 Grand Prix that same season. Ayrton Senna had the Pole Position in the 1986 Portuguese Grand Prix in 1 minute and 16,7 seconds...Toivonen was using the Lancia Delta S4 and was accompanied by his usual co-driver Sergio Cresto:D


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    colm_mcm
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    2qk4u wrote: »
    Saw this at the Trim show this summer...
    DSCF0035-1.jpg
    DSCF0034-1.jpg


    That's actually an Impreza STI, saw it at the Custom and Performance show in Limerick a few weeks ago.

    Look at the other piece of exotica in the background of the 1st pic! (I think it's a TDI)


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    Robbo
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    Blue850 wrote: »
    To give you an idea of the kind of performance GroupB cars were capable of I'll mention that in the 1986 season Henri Toivonen made two laps around the Estoril circuit, during a stage of the Portuguese rally, the fastest of which, in 1 minute and 18,1 seconds, would have qualified him in the sixth position of the F1 Grand Prix that same season. Ayrton Senna had the Pole Position in the 1986 Portuguese Grand Prix in 1 minute and 16,7 seconds...Toivonen was using the Lancia Delta S4 and was accompanied by his usual co-driver Sergio Cresto:D
    There was a piece in Autosport a few months ago debunking that story. From what I remember, the Lancia went around a shortened version of the circuit.


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    Andrewf20
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    Yep, that doesnt sound right to me either. The aerodymanics and cornering speeds in the F1 car would be in another league.


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    Biro
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    Most of the genuine RS200's in existence are the "normal" ones, which are fairly fast. However there are a small few (less that 20 I think) genuine E or E2 ones which are the real donkey! Massive money though.


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    Trickey enough cars to drive apparently. Clarkson crashed one of them when he was testing one if I remember correctly.


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    Mr.Boots
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    Here it is....

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=_hJZ9-jvfaI


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    Hotwheels
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    Yup they would bite ya in the ass when you least expected it...class car though..


    The 205 T16 was another very fast car
    sol_0401008g_p2_1.jpg


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    Henry Ford III
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    Hotwheels wrote: »
    There's a few MK11's being Rallied using a sequential box and 2.4 litre Millington engine. Very Very quick cars.. €30K++ for one..
    And a few with Mazda RX7 engines :)
    Mind you a nice RS 200 in the drive would be cool...Ahh well maybe next Lotto:)

    Colin McRae R.I.P. had a lovely MkII Escort. Cost STG£70000 to build.


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    galwaytt
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    drdre wrote: »
    ........not including our rip off vrt.......

    Who is mad to buy one of those rs200 :(

    what's the point of saying 'not including vrt' - you can't drive one without paying it, so the price of it without vrt is completely irrelevent...........really..:rolleyes: I ask you..........

    Mad? Dunno - if you bought a real one - you'd at the least get your money back on it. That'll never happen on the M5 of Ferrari, that's for sure.......

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    edwardh55
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    Blue850 wrote: »
    ultimate Group B has to be Delta S4
    lancia_delta_s4_san_remo.jpg
    1.7 supercharged and turbocharged.

    quote from www.rallycars.com

    To give you an idea of the kind of performance GroupB cars were capable of I'll mention that in the 1986 season Henri Toivonen made two laps around the Estoril circuit, during a stage of the Portuguese rally, the fastest of which, in 1 minute and 18,1 seconds, would have qualified him in the sixth position of the F1 Grand Prix that same season. Ayrton Senna had the Pole Position in the 1986 Portuguese Grand Prix in 1 minute and 16,7 seconds...Toivonen was using the Lancia Delta S4 and was accompanied by his usual co-driver Sergio Cresto:D

    I'd imagine that it was a shortened version of the track alright, for example an Evo 9 road car would be quicker around estoril now than the Group B Audi at the height of its madness, like the experiment that top gear carried out, the grip gained from all the advancements in mechanics and electronics is totally different


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    Gatster
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    Originally Posted by drdre
    Oh my god 100k,There is so many nice cars you can get for 100k.You can actually get a 07 M5 and a Ferrari 360 (not including our rip off vrt)

    Who is mad to buy one of those rs200
    For crying out loud, do you know anything about proper cars, apart from the ones Des Cullen has?
    Originally Posted by maidhc
    Because an Rs200 would be indeterminably cooler, and would mean much more to a lot of petrol heads than an M5 or Ferrari.
    What he said.


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    S.I.R
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    i lvoe the rs200 , id save up all my life and buy one... but since they concistantly break down , i would never have enough moneu to run one...


    m5 is cooler then a rs200 , not because of the badge or price tag , drive one and you'll understand ;)

    also des cullen is robbery, ill kill myself before i buy a car from there


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    cancan
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    drdre wrote: »
    Oh my god 100k,There is so many nice cars you can get for 100k.You can actually get a 07 M5 and a Ferrari 360 (not including our rip off vrt)

    Who is mad to buy one of those rs200 :(


    Despite the bad camera work, and the head start the lambo gets...

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-peuYguL8&feature=related

    It still holds the world record for 0-60 btw

    Lambos, M5 et al still eat its dust 20 years later.

    The fact that it can do the same 0-60 time on gravel/snow is also quite impressive.


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    groupb
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    An evo 9 faster than a group b car? Not too sure about that. Where traction is concerened ok maybe the more modern car has an advantage but a delta S4 weighed approx 900kgs and put out around 450bhp. Ps I know it was'nt strictly a group B car but watch the 405T16 in"climb dance" on you tube. I think it makes the evo's, imprezas & most other modern "rally cars" look a wee bit puny.


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