Dalymout Fiasco

OhNoYouDidn't

Irish Times - 11.12.07

Football club willing to use mediator

Bohemians FC is prepared to engage in mediation in an effort to resolve a legal dispute over the €35 million sale of its home ground at Dalymount Park in Dublin, the Commercial Court was told yesterday.

In legal proceedings, Bohemians FC Ltd claims it has sold the lands at Dalymount for €35 million to Danninger Ltd under a contract dated April 2007, as part of a deal under which the club will have a stadium built for it at Harristown, Co Dublin, with improved facilities and an additional sum for running its operations.

It claims that the deal may be delayed because construction companies with interests in the Phibsboro Shopping Centre, which adjoins Dalymount, are attacking the club's ability to deliver good title to the lands and are claiming they had a prior concluded agreement for the sale of the lands.

Last July, Mr Justice Peter Kelly admitted proceedings by Bohemians against Albion Properties Ltd, Albion Enterprises Ltd and Pascal Conroy to the list of the Commercial Court, the commercial division of the High Court. The defendants had earlier initiated separate proceedings.

When the case came before the judge again yesterday, Alistair Rutherdale, for Bohemians, said his side had no problem with mediation in relation to the dispute. Eoin McCullough SC, for Albion, said his side was prepared to consider mediation.

The judge said it was in everyone's interests that there would be mediation and said he would list the matter for review on February 4th next to see if progress had been made.

If there is no progress, the case will be heard on April 1st.

In its action, Bohemians claims that there were discussions between it and the defendants over the years 2001 to 2006 in relation to the proposed sale to the defendants of part of the lands at Dalymount.

However, there was no concluded oral agreement between the parties for the sale of any of the lands, it is claimed.

The negotiations with the Albion parties had broken down by October 2006 after which Bohemians said it entered negotiations with Danninger in relation to the sale of all of the lands.

Those negotiations were successful and led to a concluded written contract of April 18th, 2007, it is claimed.

However, on May 23rd, the defendants asserted that they had an agreement with Bohemians for the purchase of certain lands at Dalymount.

Bohemians wants a court order restraining the defendants from asserting they have a concluded or enforceable contract in relation to the sale of any of the lands at Dalymount.

The defendants have counterclaimed for specific performance of concluded agreements alleged to have been reached for sale of part of the Dalymount lands to them.

© 2007 The Irish Times


Remember when all the Bozos were rubbing it in about their gazillions and a few of us were labelled 'jealous' for reminding them of one small detail... they dont know how much of the stadium they even own:D

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I knew you'd be posting about this, so I didn't earlier.

OhNoYouDidn't

DesF wrote: »

I knew you'd be posting about this, so I didn't earlier.

anything that stops the sale of Dalyer or Tolka is fine with me. Dalymount is an important part of Rovers lore, we have won more trophies there than B*hs. Shame that they are attempting to sell it because doing the kip up is too much hassle for them.

But Harristown would be fatal for the D7 shower, so I am torn somewhat. They cant even fill the Jodi and they reckon they will get a following the far side of the airport?

bohsman

With 35m in the bank the club wont care about filling the stadium unfortunately. Ideally Id like the FAI to pay to do up the rest of Dalyer in exchange for using it for internationals but theres potential for a new fanbase around Harristown if done right similarly to Shams in Tallaght.

OhNoYouDidn't

bohsman wrote: »

With 35m in the bank the club wont care about filling the stadium unfortunately. Ideally Id like the FAI to pay to do up the rest of Dalyer in exchange for using it for internationals but theres potential for a new fanbase around Harristown if done right similarly to Shams in Tallaght.

do you honestly think Harristown will happen? :eek:

and why not just do up Dalyer for the sake of having a ground that passes H&S requirements? why involve the FAI?

Guy:Incognito

Surely in conjunction with the fai Dalymount could be done up to a really decent level (I'd imagine 15-20k all seater would be possible ) that could see it used for lesser internationals aswell. That'd be a good solution imo.

bohsman

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

do you honestly think Harristown will happen? :eek:

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I was responding to you're comment that Harristown would be fatal, assuming Finglas FC didnt happen and things were done right as regards intigration it could be a big success, I dont know enough about the situation to know if it will happen or not but Id love to stay in an all seater Dalymount.

SectionF

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

anything that stops the sale of Dalyer or Tolka is fine with me. Dalymount is an important part of Rovers lore, we have won more trophies there than B*hs. Shame that they are attempting to sell it because doing the kip up is too much hassle for them.

But Harristown would be fatal for the D7 shower, so I am torn somewhat. They cant even fill the Jodi and they reckon they will get a following the far side of the airport?

Dalymount seems to be your specialist subject. Surely, in spite of your misguidedly proprietorial interest, the topic of stadium retention is one you should avoid? If it is sold, it'll be for a lot more than Milltown, and, get this, it'll be for the good of the club.
If you want to start a KBAD campaign fuelled by Sham/boys-in-green nostalgia, then carry on. You'll find lots of bandwagon merchants who will pile on board. None of them likely will come up with a solution that protects the future of Bohemian FC. If they do, get your lawyer to send a registered letter and see if we don't stay.

KdjaCL

SectionF wrote: »

Dalymount seems to be your specialist subject. Surely, in spite of your misguidedly proprietorial interest, the topic of stadium retention is one you should avoid? If it is sold, it'll be for a lot more than Milltown, and, get this, it'll be for the good of the club.
If you want to start a KBAD campaign fuelled by Sham/boys-in-green nostalgia, then carry on. You'll find lots of bandwagon merchants who will pile on board. None of them likely will come up with a solution that protects the future of Bohemian FC. If they do, get your lawyer to send a registered letter and see if we don't stay.

Should you not sell the ground you own before abusing others over selling theirs?

Anyone willing to enter mediation is fearful of the judical outcome, are bohs fcuked?


kdjac

bohsman

Both sides are willing to enter mediation so are they both fcuked?

SectionF

KdjaCL wrote: »

Should you not sell the ground you own before abusing others over selling theirs?
kdjac

What abuse, precisely, are you referring to? I was responding to the sneering hypocrisy of a Shamrock Rovers supporter, of all people, lecturing BFC on a ground sale.

chopperbyrne

SectionF wrote: »

What abuse, precisely, are you referring to? I was responding to the sneering hypocrisy of a Shamrock Rovers supporter, of all people, lecturing BFC on a ground sale.

Surely if anyone knows the detrimental affects of selling a stadium, it's Rovers fans?