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yes that makes sence,if the length of a car blocked up the road,thats honestly one of the stupidest things ive ever read,thanks for the laugh.its width you should be looking at mate!not length
The Hyundai is a 7 seater and is 70mm wider than the VW Passat, how would the lenght of your dick hog up the road
Hyundai Santa Fe
Width 1890mm
VW Passat Estate
Width 1820mm0 -
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The Hyundai is a 7 seater and is 70mm wider than the VW Passat, how would the lenght of your dick hog up the road
Hyundai Santa Fe
Width 1890mm
VW Passat Estate
Width 1820mm
exactly,look at the width!which is wider?me thinks the santa fe,any way its not about the width,the sante fe puts out worse emisions and eats more petrol than the passat,my dick wouldnt fit on a public road:)0 -
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exactly,look at the width!which is wider?me thinks the santa fe,any way its not about the width,the sante fe puts out worse emisions and eats more petrol than the passat,my dick wouldnt fit on a public road:)
Yeah, your dick is so big if you slapped it on the keyboard it would go all the way from A to Z 0 -
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What about all the 1990 junkers driving around, I'm sure they are spitting out a lot more Co2 than modern SUV's.very true,point taken.but probably half thr amount of emisions and petrol or diesel consumption comapred to the cheapass santa fe,but i do take you r point,maybe an emisions test every 2 years for cars over 8 years old,like in japan
Penalise older car drivers eh?
To all those advocating we all run out every two years and buy new cars becuase they will be more friendly with emissions, why don't you think about what resources are being used in building those new cars, transporting them half way around the world and the resources that are used in dismantling the older cars that you think we should all get rid of.
Bit like the arguement about disposing of Prius batteries.
Maybe when people in this country come back to reality and banks/credit companies are not fawning over them offering cheap credit, then they might start hanging onto their old cars.
Next time you are on holidays compare the average age of our car population to those of the country you are visiting.
Take a look at the age of some of the cars in France, Australia or New Zealand to mention a few.
But of course we are one of the richest countries in the world and we want to show everyone :rolleyes:
We are reall good at showing how much money we can borrow.
To the anti SUV brigade, with our good old economy going down the tube before long a lot of people will be trading in their SUVs or convertibles for whatever is the modern equivalent of the 1980s Lada.
Also some people as mentioned earlier by forestry worker, have a valid necessity to drive 4x4 and it is not to show off.
Our government and the revenue have forced lots of businesses to opt for crew cabs/commerical 4x4s instead of good old fashioned vans since they are more tax efficient.
Thus you see 4x4 being driven by medical reps, sandwich delivery boys, interior design companies etc.
None of them will ever see a bog, field or ditch.
So how green is that.
Now I am going to go home in me old smoky ten year old diesel.
Hopefully I can smoother a few green cyclists and SUV drivers at the same time
I am not allowed discuss …
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I can't believe it...yesterday my friend turned in her Saab 93 for a Hummer H3. It was cheaper for her, but we will see how much more she spends on fuel.Are you actually serious? That Cadillac Escalade thing.....i'm not gonna call that heap of junk a car....does 12-19 mpg according to cadillac's website. Now a 1.0 l Yaris will do 45-50 mpg, do I have to say more?
Escalade 6.2L V-8 Hybrid: 17.5 MPG city/27.6 MPG highway, 5,511 lbs curb weight
Camry 3.5L V-6: 19 city/28 highway, 3,461 lbs
Yaris 1.6L 4-cyl: 29/35, 2,340
Check the Cadillac and Toyota websites.
Okay, so the Yaris gets better mileage than the Escalade, but it's only 60% better, when the Escalade is 140% heavier. I would say the Escalade is "more bang for your buck" which makes it the emmission and MPG economical choice if you are looking at the basic facts. Yes, it is more expensive to buy, but also much more luxurious - and I'm sure there's a post somewhere about luxury cars as well.Wow you baffle me with YOUR facts which you cant prove but yet have the cheek to attack the anti SUV threads??
Fact SUV block visability
Fact SUV not needed to carry most (I would say all) things.
Fact SUV higher lights then cars and hence blind ordinary car via rear view mirror.
Fact I would rather avoid being hit by a these tanks then any other car.
Allllllllright...you are naming FACTs, without backup...including the last fact about something you would RATHER do. That's not a fact at all. Stop it. At least I research the cars before I talk about the real facts on this board.littlejukka wrote: »this is the most moronic responses to any post on any thread on any forum on the entire internet. you do yourself so much shame. please stop posting for fear of further compounding steroetypes. i didn't think i'd ever say this but you make SUV drivers look bad(der).
...and you make English as a language look worse. Besides, even if it was a moronic response - it worked. You took time out of your day to reply to it. Highly effective.I couldn't give a crap about spending money on some overbearing status symbol, I have better things to do with my cash.
Good for you - I'm the same way. I still want a Grand Cherokee for my next car. I like them. I drove a Commander, but it really was just too showy for me. However, some people like to show their cash and they are going to do it, whether it's through clothes, home furnishings, cars, or anything else. I don't hear people ranting as much against buying expensive clothes when there is a cheaper alternative. Some people like to show their money - they worked hard for it and they want to show it. I think it is tacky, but understand others' feelings.I have just had many, many negative experiences with the attitudes of a disproportionate amount of SUV drivers (attitudes mind you, not individual bad driving incidents).
As I said in my previous post - I don't think an SUV makes a bad driver, but I think bad drivers are attracted to SUVs. That way, their poor driving habits are more intimidating to others, those others avoid them because it's a larger and more intimidating vehicle. So yes, there may be a disproportionate amount of bad drivers in SUVs, but you cannot assume all of them fit that category.Everyone knows the facts about suv's.....the pros and cons.
A minority of People buy them because either they need them for work or because of where they live .
The rest buy them cos they are buying into a lifestyle......Sad but true.
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I dont agree with provisional drivers on the roads
Cars - weather you like it or not - are a lifestyle. They are expensive, and a major part of peoples lives. Some spend hours a day going to and from work, or even doing work in their vehicles. If you are spending that much time and money - that vehicle should reflect you and your personality. I don't think it's sad, but understand your viewpoint.
Everyone is a new driver at some point, you don't get better with age - it skill comes with experience.I do understand why some people get pi**ed off with SUVs in urban areas, doesnt make sense. Still though i have one, i do need it for work, (its commercial) I work in forestry, the jeep is indeed off road 50% of the time and pulling heavy machinery about the place. Cant see a toyota prius doing that.
And the thing about it is that these people that get upset about not using it as they think it should be used, might see you on your day off - then they become angry because you are using your jeep without towing something behind it. You aren't going to buy a jeep AND a prius, one car is good enough, and you can use the jeep for both.Can someone PLEASE define an SUV?
Why not ban people buying cars capable of speeds of over 120KM/h as no one needs to go faster than that. Why not ban radios, they are not needed. And sure while we are at it, why would you allow people pick the colour of their vehicle, lets ban colours while we are at it....
Multifunction mobile phones, game consoles, Plasma & LCD TV's, designer labels, branded products, art, comedy etc. None of these are needed, sure
SUV: Origonally based on a truck, but instead of a bed have seats or storage, with a head covering...eventually becoming more luxurious due to the demands of customers not wanting to feel like a "Mom" in an MPV. The newer ones that are smaller (referred to as a "Crossover" in the US) is basically an MPV without the sliding doors, also to get rid of the mom feeling.
By the way - I agree with you about things being necessary. I think my mobile is necessary, but 15 years ago I had to actually use a phone that was attached to the wall in my home. 100 years ago, we didn't even have electricity to support either kind of telephone. Would these people consider electricity unnecessary? Everyone has a different oppinion on where the line should be drawn - or you can just leave it with no line and see how humans evolve into better products that suit their personalities.Fairnuff craichoe
I couldent agree more, point is though, i and many more like me drove a jeep before it was fashionable and will do when its not so trendy. Problem is that now ordinary people like me just going about their business will now be taxed heavily because its trendy for yummie mummies to drive one. Surely there should be some exemption if its commercial or it can be proven to be work related.
again, for the record, there is NO need for these jeeps in an urban setting.
Once again, what is actually needed? Also - you are right, you sholdn't be taxed because other people want to off a "fad." It's not like the government is going to exclude you for being a loyal customer. It's not equal for anyone.Sounds to me like the, I'll be safer with a gun argument ..
...if no one has a gun, and one person gets a hold of one, they will reek havoc on a city until caught by the city officials (that should have a gun), but if everybody has a gun, that person might have a lot harder of a time robbing anyone or getting what s/he wants.Think of other words when you say the word "truck"
mmmm....'work' 'goods' 'distribution'
Think of other words when you say the words "agricultural vehicle"
mmmm....'work' 'goods' 'distribution' 'staple food' 'harvesting'
Think of other words when you say the term "SUV"
mmmm....'selfish' 'unnecessary' 'big'
Another post with pure personal oppinion as basis for this political agenda. What about my friends that drive a truck just because they like it? Tell me what you think about my friend that drives a Ford F-150 just because he likes it, and he can carry his gym bag in the back.No I would be better off if assho*es in SUV's werent hoggin the road.
Typical SUV push everyone off the road attitude.
And yes I am more willing to put up with the obstruction of a truck doing deliveries etc than an SUV popping down to the shop for a pint of milk. oh the weight of the pint of milk, the big tank needed to carry it home.
Can you tell me why you need an SUV please?
No one needs it, we just want it. There is nothing wrong with wanting something.Well .. Fact is that in Ireland (if they follow European Directives, which they are so far with Driving Permits, Licensing categories and Co2 based taxation) that SUV's, 4x4's - Partime 4x4's or whatever you want to call them will be taxed heavily in the future to discourage you from driving them.
...then this is a government that is pushing personal preference on the public. If they don't like big cars, then no one can like big cars. They may use the environment as an excuse, but we already conquered that.Cmar-Ireland wrote: »Mods, please close this thread and send it the same way as fog lights, and any future threads that go the same way.
It always leads into inflated ego's arguing for the sake of it with no valid points from either side.
Take care of your own problems and stop getting more people involved. Do you actually think that someone won't start a new thread of this one is stopped?When you have drug dealers involved in the exotic car market due to the high taxes, there comes a point that maybe the taxes are too high.
If everyone is trying to get around a tax, perhaps the tax needs to be reevaluated
SUV's now, then performance cars, the petrol cars etc etc.
You are absolutely correct - once they get rid of the large SUVs, then it wil be MPVs, then sports cars, everything on down. People are going to do it either way. There are tons of people that go down to London or wherever else and buy a car and import it because in the long run it is cheaper than buying it here...people will get what they want and nothing will stop them. There is no use in trying to control people. The gonvernment is not meant to control the population - it is supposed to lead it.Fair enough the larger jeeps can be a nusiance in the city. If the driver is competent then whats the problem? You seem to have an issue with peoples choice to drive what they like as long as it effects no one else.
Everything you do effects everyone else, so that doesn't really matter. If a driver hits a pedestrian in an SUV, they will do the same in a small car.
The point is, it doesn't matter what you do, people want things whether they are taxed more or not. Sure, there might be less on the road, but people will still get them, even if they register it in a more rural area to avoid the tax. Go with the flow, get used to it, and car-pool your kids to school.
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Cmar-Ireland wrote: »I see that Hummer have brought out RHD versions of their H2's and H3's. Can't wait until I can afford to buy one. Unless something bigger comes out in the meantime!!!
Have a look at what's coming in 2008
http://www.infiniti.com/fx/photos/exterior_photos.html
15 miles per gal / 320 hp V8
Better get your order in quick.......and expect to be 'keyed' alot!!0 -
nytraveller wrote: »Have a look at what's coming in 2008
http://www.infiniti.com/fx/photos/exterior_photos.html
15 miles per gal / 320 hp V8
Better get your order in quick.......and expect to be 'keyed' alot!!
Nice, but this might just be the ultimate SUV....:eek:
Perfect for tootling around town doing the shopping
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