Interesting Programme on BBc4 tonight, footie 1957 v 2007

mike65

A Game of Two Eras: Time Shift
1957 vs 2007

This Time Shift special uses the latest football technology to conduct a unique experiment into how English football has really changed in the past 50 years.

Through computerised analysis it directly compares every aspect of the FA Cup Finals of 2007 and 1957, the year of the dramatic and controversial Wembley encounter between Manchester United and Aston Villa, when the United goalkeeper played on with a broken cheekbone.

How did the players pass the ball, how skilful were they and how hard did they tackle? The results uncover a lost era of English football through interviews with the surviving members of the 1957 final and contributors including Sir Tom Finney and former England manager Graham Taylor.

Thu 13 Dec, 21:00-22:00 60mins Stereo Widescreen repeats at 3 am Thurs night/Friday morning and 1.25 am Friday night/Sat morning and twice again late Sunday!

Mike.

eirebhoy

Deadly. Thanks for the heads up.

Unearthly

Where would I go about finding BBC4

mike65

Channel 117 on NTL if you have sky you'll have to check which packages you have.

Mike.

DaveH

if you have Sky, You have to tune it in via other channels. Instructions on the Satelliete forum.

MrJoeSoap

Will watch this. Cheers Mike.

ciaran76

Not a bad prog. showing the difference between the players from yester year and today.

The players then really were playing for a living. It was nice to see the players not surrounding the ref on every decision like in todays game.

I think most players from the past agreed the game is better today but it has its downsides like the way players talk/curse to refs , some goal celebrations and the fact you can use subs and back then injured keepers sometimes moved out to play outfield.
It was almost like a different game sometimes I felt!

Mitch Connor

Yeah - the 'fair shoulder tackle' on the keeper was shocking! If Hunt had done that to cech there would have been even more contraversy over it!

ciaran76

Tauren wrote: »

Yeah - the 'fair shoulder tackle' on the keeper was shocking! If Hunt had done that to cech there would have been even more contraversy over it!

What was classic about that was the commemtator giving out about the fans booing the player who commited the fair tackle.

Mitch Connor

ciaran76 wrote: »

What was classic about that was the commemtator giving out about the fans booing the player who commited the fair tackle.

and the 'medical treatment' the keeper got from the trainer.

I do wish some of the tackles seen in the 57 game were fair game now too though - some fouls you see are a joke.

I remember Keane and Heinze tearing into Liverpool a few seasons back (Rio's comeback game) going in quick and hard into about 4 or 5 takles in the space of something like 20 seconds. Eventually a free was given to Liverpool, simply to calm the united lads down (seemingly) as I didn't see an actual foul commited. Its irritating when full blooded, but fail tackles are punished for no real reason - a good tackle can do wonders to get a crowd and team going.

eirebhoy

Not a great programme tbh, expected much better. We learn nothing knew.

PiE

Yea the analyst guy saying that the headed first goal for Villa was "hmm nnnyeaa quite a good goal..." - ehhh what? It was a bloody brilliant header and this guy's acting as if somehow the quality of the goal means nothing because it was 50 years ago.

If anything, with those balls the header was far better than any you'd get today. Spa.