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N18 - Limerick Tunnel & South Ring Road Phase II
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Depending on the car and driving style, you could spend that much extra in fuel if stuck in peak-time city centre traffic compared to taking the tunnel... maybe... if you have a V12Also for regular commuters, spending an extra €72 per month (approx) is not necessarily a negligable cost.
CerebralCortex wrote: »Yes that they took away two lanes which makes no sense whatsoever, when they could have designed it to be two lanes (also for the fact that the tunnel is restricted height).
It does make sense. They needed space to make new grade-separated junctions and roundabouts. They would have had to buy a lot more land if they were going to do this and keep the two lanes on the old N18 (that feels weird saying that - I remember when it was the new road!).
Whether it will still be a bottleneck when the tunnel opens is another thing - I'm hoping they've predicted traffic accurately and it won't be, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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zilog_jones wrote: »Depending on the car and driving style, you could spend that much extra in fuel if stuck in peak-time city centre traffic compared to taking the tunnel... maybe... if you have a V12
It does make sense. They needed space to make new grade-separated junctions and roundabouts. They would have had to buy a lot more land if they were going to do this and keep the two lanes on the old N18 (that feels weird saying that - I remember when it was the new road!).
Whether it will still be a bottleneck when the tunnel opens is another thing - I'm hoping they've predicted traffic accurately and it won't be, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.thesimpsons wrote: »isn't the one lane only for the exit though - it branches out to two lanes again once past the Radisson roundabout so shouldn't be too much of a bottleneck there really. Its then two lanes all the way through to the Coonagh roundabout.
Both very good points.zilog_jones wrote: »...I remember when it was the new road!...
Cool, finally someone I can ask about the houses built on the N18 near the Set rights tavern. Where they there before the road was built or are we as a nation pathologically incapable of planning and allow people to build houses on interurban routes?0 -
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Chris_5339762 wrote: »The N18 there was originally a standard two lane road with houses down it. I think they originally dualled it by slapping a second carriageway down alongside the first.
Wasn't the old route a bit different? Didn't it go through Bunratty or something? I remember it being quite different, though there were changes to the N19 to Shannon as well.
Sorry, don't really know the area. And I would have been about 8 when the dual carriageway openedCerebralCortex wrote:Cool, finally someone I can ask about the houses built on the N18 near the Set rights tavern. Where they there before the road was built or are we as a nation pathologically incapable of planning and allow people to build houses on interurban routes? 0 -
zilog_jones wrote: »Wasn't the old route a bit different? Didn't it go through Bunratty or something? I remember it being quite different, though there were changes to the N19 to Shannon as well.
Sorry, don't really know the area. And I would have been about 8 when the dual carriageway opened
The dual carriageway past Bunratty is a bypass finished in 1990 I think. The old road either side of Bunratty was dualled as Chris says. The bit west/north of Bunratty was very short but incorporated the crazy at-grade N19 junction, and the at-grade Hurler's Cross. The bit just east of Bunratty was dualled outwards from Limerick I think, certainly though I was a kid I remember that straight stretch between Bunratty and Setrights having an "under construction" carriageway beside it for some time (occupied by travellers at one point too IIRC). I think the dual-carriageway from Setrights was opened to Bunratty only a couple of years before the bypass opened (somewhere around 1987-89?).
The layout at Setrights was amended sometime in the 1990s to incorporate a GSJ for Cratloe, closing the median break at the pub and a footbridge was installed also.
I think the dual carriageway from Setrights to the Coonagh Roundabout is all the same vintage (1970s), though the roundabout was put in at the time of the Condell Road and Shannon Bridge (around 1990?).
The original dual carriageway was rebuilt all the way from the end of the Bunratty bypass to the start of the Newmarket-on-Fergus bypass, including grade separation of hurler's cross (previous a median break) and rebuilding the old N19 junction (now just a LILO onto the old N19 from the northbound carriageway). Work in early 2000s, finished in 2003 I think.
The original dual carriageway just west of Bunratty (the other end of the bypass) also had serious remedial work a couple of years ago as it was sinking into the landscape. Judging by the rollercoaster that the Bunratty bypass is becoming, I would expect the same to be done there soon enough, or else for catastrophic failure if they postpone it due to lack of money.
With the replacing of median breaks with roundabouts (Coonagh Cross, Radisson) in the Ennis Road approaching the city, I think the only original "untouched" part of the dual carriageway from Limerick to Shannon will be that short winding bit between the new SRR junction and the Cratloe GSJ approaching Setrights.0 -
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