Some basic questions on Upgrading My System?

x keo21

im thinking of upgrading my pc (with new components) from a cheap but useful pc.
link to my old computer:
http://www.shopping.com/xPF-Presario-SR1030NX

Can i use parts from this pc to work with the new motherboard......... i chose: http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsfull.asp?productcode=ECE1436001 namely with the 2 hdd's and optical drive. Or will the older systems components not configure?

Also this is what i intend getting, please comment and advise (R.E. im on BUDGET)

Processor core 2 duo http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=338082

Graphic card : (HD 3850 512MB DDR3 PCI-E DUAL-DVI HDTV )

2gb of RAM :http://www1.hardwareversand.de/6VIm8MoFA0bpW4/1/articledetail.jsp?aid=10280&agid=599
I have 1gb added on my old pc ( its running with 1.5 gb now) , will this work on the new mobo to give me 3Gb or is there again compatability problems?

I also need to get a PSU dont know what min voltage i need? i might go for crossfire down the line.
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=339898

I got it from another thread here. So is it compatable to the mobo and hdd/optical drive??

What the hell is with the price of shipping from hardwareversand.de ? 30Euro per item....?????

RoyalMarine

harddrives and optical drives will always work.
same with monitor's and speaker sets.

are you keeping the case?
power supplies are also some what universal.
and thats an exceptionally good power supply.

as for the main products.
the motherboard is great. ive ordered one myself but cancelled it until after xmas. cant decide what to build.

the core 2 duo will work great on that board. would you concider sticking 60 euro more in and getting a core 2 quad? the q6600 isnt that much more expensive.

as for the ram.
your old computer has this :512 MB (DDR SDRAM)
the new motherboard wont support sdram. its a very old format.

your motherboard will only take
Supported RAM Speed PC2-6400, PC2-5300, PC2-9600, PC2-8500

the ram you picked there to buy is PC2-6400
so yeah it will work fine.

shipping from hardwareversand.de
its a german website. so its being shipped from germany.
30 euro per item is a lot, but the items are cheaper than buying from irish sites.

www.komplett.ie
www.elara.ie
www.dabs.ie
www.overclockers.co.uk
www.scan.co.uk
www.ebuyers.com

you could buy from irish sites, get it shipped faster, but it costs more. but its not going to be 30 euro per item.

x keo21

thanks that response was very helpful. and yeah i think i will keep my case ,but if a bargain comes around ,well....

just thinking now..( will my case have any issues with size of parts like the mobo etc..and is each case different, by which i mean how will the output ports on the mobo match up with the cases' ports?

I might get the RAM from somewhere else? dont know yet. Can they bundle the PSU with the ram to save 30 Euro?

uberpixie

x keo21 wrote: »

thanks that response was very helpful. and yeah i think i will keep my case ,but if a bargain comes around ,well....

just thinking now..( will my case have any issues with size of parts like the mobo etc..and is each case different, by which i mean how will the output ports on the mobo match up with the cases' ports?

I might get the RAM from somewhere else? dont know yet. Can they bundle the PSU with the ram to save 30 Euro?

Look, just do this properly.

Forget about using parts from your old machine, put some money down and do it properly.

There is nothing worth while left in your old pc, leave alone and use it as a spare crash machine, file server, test Linux box/whatever.

Buy a new case.

If you are on a tight budget: Antec sonata 3 case, comes with a 500W quality Antec PSU
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=338137

For €130.

This is cheaper than getting a cheap and nasty case with a cheap and nasty PSU separately.

EDIT: And yes 500W is more than enough in a psu for what you want to run.

Buy once buy right and stop trying to skimp on critical parts;).
(This will always come back to kick you straight in the sack)

x keo21

i intend on updating these parts in the future but right now im on a tight budget and these cost savings are helping me get the best mobo and processor in my price range.

If i go for the sli with 2 8800gt's can this psu support it? if theres a link to sli power supply reference would be much appreciated

RoyalMarine

there is no point in going sli on a budget. its pointless.

for double the price fo the 8800gt you only get 28 - 30% performance increasre and thats not on every game around.

you would be best to get one ( which is still going to be a great card! ) and put the money into a new case.

uberpixie

x keo21 wrote: »

i intend on updating these parts in the future but right now im on a tight budget and these cost savings are helping me get the best mobo and processor in my price range.

If i go for the sli with 2 8800gt's can this psu support it? if theres a link to sli power supply reference would be much appreciated

Unless you have a 24" monitor, forget about SLI.

It only makes a difference at extreme resolutions.

Waste of money unless you have a huge screen.

Get a good case, more important you have a good case with good airflow.

You need:

Half dacent cpu and gfx card. they don't have to be the most expensive parts going. These will be the first parts you replacing regardless as faster parts will come out and the older stuff will fall in price. So buy mid range parts that give you the best bang for the buck.

DO NOT skimp on case, psu, motherboard or ram. These are the parts you will have to put up with for a long time.

RoyalMarine

case:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=341701
€70

motherboard:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=339337
€143

ram: 4gb
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=343070
€122

graphics card:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=341856
€250

power supply:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=313804
€98

processor:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=338082
€172

dvd:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=341853
€37.50

harddrive:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=331024
€95

total:
988

not a bad build for 1,000!

it leaves you options to upgrade to sli if you want to in the future.
it leaves you the option of getting quad core in the future if you want to.
and plenty of expansion room in the case and with the motherboard.
overclocking would be pretty good as its a solid motherboard and great ram.

x keo21

RoyalMarineComm wrote: »

case:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=341701
€70

motherboard:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=339337
€143

ram: 4gb
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=343070
€122

graphics card:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=341856
€250

power supply:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=313804
€98

processor:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=338082
€172

dvd:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=341853
€37.50

harddrive:
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=331024
€95

total:
988

not a bad build for 1,000!

it leaves you options to upgrade to sli if you want to in the future.
it leaves you the option of getting quad core in the future if you want to.
and plenty of expansion room in the case and with the motherboard.
overclocking would be pretty good as its a solid motherboard and great ram.

cheers. nice parts.:D

x keo21

hey, this is what i finally chose. thanks to all who helped, I really appreciated it. Parts coming in the new year

case and psu
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=338137
Processor
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=338082
Mobo
http://www.elara.ie/products/detailsfull.asp?productcode=ECE1436001
Harddrive
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=331024
Gfx Card
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=341856
Ram
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=343070

Its been a long journey, 3 weeks ago i didnt even know what a mobo was ......or a hdd ....or a psu...or what ram did...but now i can tell you this and the different models offered on all these sites ... but better still,
i enjoyed every minute of it.

RoyalMarine

link for mobo isnt working.

love the case! real shine to it.
excellent choice all round. now show us the motherboard!

you still need a graphics card

x keo21

RoyalMarineComm wrote: »

link for mobo isnt working.

love the case! real shine to it.
excellent choice all round. now show us the motherboard!

you still need a graphics card

there you go ,cant wait to play bioshock and cod4 in playable quailty, the way it was meant to be, only i might not be on boards as much:( . Special nod to you royalmarine, really helped....as did all who shared their knowledge

RoyalMarine

smashing board

really should buy one myself. but eh.

x keo21

RoyalMarineComm wrote: »

smashing board

really should buy one myself. but eh.

what the graphic card? believe me the graphic card is perfect for me, i know its nvidia, played one at the weekend...., i'll be going crossfire when its totally required.Right now i want the best 'I' can buy and thats the gt. I compare my old card to this like the change from the dark ages to the renaissance. its that drastic. If anyone wants to throw me a few quid you know where to reach me, im VERY much in debt...oh well
!!!!!!!!!!Roll on 2008!!!!!!!!!!!

""" HaPpY cHrIsTmAs""" everyone

RoyalMarine

you wont need to sli.

the 8800gt will be more than enough.
getting 2 of them will only give you 15 - 20% increase.

at the moment, its pointless. the 8800gt will handle almost everything apart from crysis on max settings.

so in a couple of months, maybe august, the new crysis killing gpu's will be out. then buy 1 of them. and forget sli.

Lord Deco

Havok posted this in bargain alerts....

http://www.dabs.ie/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4TZ4&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=8800gts&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0

15% faster than a 8800gt for 8800gt price (€265)

Grab one before there gone,exceptional card

Lord Deco

Liking the mobo,but personally I think the P35 is the better all rounder for overclocking,price/performance,I'd vote that if you want single-card setups....

Fnz

RoyalMarineComm wrote: »

shipping from hardwareversand.de
its a german website. so its being shipped from germany.
30 euro per item is a lot, but the items are cheaper than buying from irish sites.

......

.... you could buy from irish sites, get it shipped faster, but it costs more. but its not going to be 30 euro per item.

€30 per order according to here: http://www3.hardwareversand.de/8VEtDJ-92Z9HCf/1/infoagbprivat.jsp#BOOKMARKVERSAND

Lord Deco

Fnz wrote: »

€30 per order according to here: http://www3.hardwareversand.de/8VEtDJ-92Z9HCf/1/infoagbprivat.jsp#BOOKMARKVERSAND

Correct I have built 3 pc's with them in the past and got a mobo/ram/cpu/graphics of them earlier this month....

Great site

Below cost me under €350,the cpu is running just below 2.8ghz on air,with room for more

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/6VfYO0Eat6buRc/1/articledetail.jsp?aid=17480&agid=398
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/6VfYO0Eat6buRc/1/articledetail.jsp?aid=18279&agid=659
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/6VfYO0Eat6buRc/1/articledetail.jsp?aid=7247&agid=599
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/6VfYO0Eat6buRc/1/articledetail.jsp?aid=19139&agid=716

RoyalMarine

30 euro per item if you order from german sites.

thats why i said order from the likes of komplett and it would be 30 all together.

Lord Deco

RoyalMarineComm wrote: »

30 euro per item if you order from german sites.

thats why i said order from the likes of komplett and it would be 30 all together.

Its not €30 per item its €30 delivery for 7 or 8 items,€40 for more than 8 items depending on weight....

Komplett is €12 postage,sometimes more depending on weight....

Dabs €5 for stuff under €40 and €13 for stuff over €50 depending on weight...

Komplett is in no way cheaper,it might be cheaper if your getting a €40 8400gs,but when your spending a grand or more,komplett will rip you off big time....

kaisersose77

Most german sites are 20/30euro altogther for shipping no matter how much stuff you get (well any site worth ordering from anyways)

I dont know where the hell RoyalMarineComm is getting those figures from and seems like he hasnt ordered from a german site before

Sure if you did pay 30euro p+p for each item, it would probably still be cheaper than komplett/dabs!

RoyalMarine

kaisersose77 wrote: »

Most german sites are 20/30euro altogther for shipping no matter how much stuff you get (well any site worth ordering from anyways)

I dont know where the hell RoyalMarineComm is getting those figures from and seems like he hasnt ordered from a german site before

Sure if you did pay 30euro p+p for each item, it would probably still be cheaper than komplett/dabs!

eek! i was only going on what the op said.
in his original post he asked what the postage was from german sites. 30 euro per item?

i assumed he checked it out.

my bad if i was taken up wrong. never meant to imply that they were.

sorry! :o