Consultant

IncredibleHulk

Asking this for a pal. Is the title consultant a restricted title in Ireland. Can he 'consult' on his area of work without seeking some special qualification? I believe in USA it is not a restricted title. Thanks

mikemac

Well if any graduate can become a recruitment consultant which involves no consultancy work and is basically a sales job, then I can't see how it is restricted.
Sames goes for Business Development Consultant which is another sales job

IncredibleHulk

Sames goes for Business Development Consultant which is another sales job

What qualifications for Business Development Consultant then, sales qualification?

fintan

The title consultant is not a restricted title

DublinDilbert

fintan wrote: »

The title consultant is not a restricted title

There's actually very few restricted / protected titles in Ireland...

For example the titles Engineer, Architect or Accountant are not protected... i would not expect this to change any time soon, hence Bertie can call himself an accountant even though he has no qualifications/accreditations in the area...

fintan

DublinDilbert wrote: »

There's actually very few restricted / protected titles in Ireland...

For example the titles Engineer, Architect or Accountant are not protected... i would not expect this to change any time soon, hence Bertie can call himself an accountant even though he has no qualifications/accreditations in the area...

Which is why when an engaging the services of an accountant / engineer / architect its always a good idea to check they are "Chartered" this would prove they actually hold a recognised qualification.

A quick one for Dublin Dilbert, according to El Berts profile he qualified as an accountant http://www.fiannafail.ie/history_content.php4?era=6

Is that not true?

DublinDilbert

fintan wrote: »

A quick one for Dublin Dilbert, according to El Berts profile he qualified as an accountant http://www.fiannafail.ie/history_content.php4?era=6

Is that not true?

In other countries they are very strict about who can call them selves what.... for example if you do the Microsoft MCSE exams, you get the title Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer, in the literature you receive from Microsoft your told your not allowed called your self an engineer in Canada.

The term qualified accountant doesn't mean anything, as you said you must be chartered. So he can say he's a qualified accountant but it means nothing... In saying that he seems to be very good at keeping track of large quanties of money, even without a bank account :rolleyes:

On the qualification side of things:-

From what I've read up, He did attend DIT Rathmines ( now DIT Anger Street ), but appears he did not finish the course, and received no quantification from there... If he had a qualification from DIT Rathmines i'm sure it would be all over the FF website.

It was claimed that he done courses in the London school of economics but they have no record of him ever attending any courses.

It was also claimed at one stage on the FF web site that he had a qualification from UCD, which also have no record of him ever attending... The reference to UCD was quickly removed from the FF website when it was pointed out.

Pines

fintan wrote: »

according to El Berts profile he qualified as an accountant http://www.fiannafail.ie/history_content.php4?era=6

Is that not true?

From Wikipedia, FWIW:

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Ahern was educated at St. Patrick's National School in Drumcondra, St. Aidan's Christian Brothers in Whitehall, and Dublin Institute of Technology. He has also claimed, or it was claimed by others on his behalf in circulated biographies, that he was educated at University College Dublin and the London School of Economics. Neither university has any records that show Ahern was ever one of their students. He worked in the Accounts Department of the Mater Hospital, Dublin, from where he is still technically on a career break. He has often been described, and has referred to himself, as an accountant. As there is currently no legal definition in Ireland of the term accountant this is technically correct. But he is not a qualified chartered, certified or public accountant. On the 8 October 2006 the Irish News of the World described him as 'an accounts clerk.' He is an honorary member of the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy.

IncredibleHulk

The term qualified accountant doesn't mean anything, as you said you must be chartered.

What is the difference

So he can say he's a qualified accountant but it means nothing...

Elaborate please, I do not understand. Thanks

DublinDilbert

IncredibleHulk wrote: »

What is the difference
Elaborate please, I do not understand. Thanks

Well as the term accountant has no legal standing in ireland, hence there's no set qualification required to be one, so anyone could refer to themselves as an accountant.... eg you could do a 2 year cert course at an IT and call yourself an accountant. You would not be chartered accountant and would not be able to perform alot of tasks required, but you could still legally refer to yourself as an accountant. This happens all the time in other fields too, not just accountancy.

IncredibleHulk

eg you could do a 2 year cert course at an IT and call yourself an accountant.

You mean in accountancy? Or in anything? Thanks for clarifying

Regards
IH
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