Stuck Up Irish women who think they are hot

SimpleSam06

Laslo wrote: »

At the end of the day, Irish people in general have become more arrogant over the last few years since the economy has improved. More money + people who don't know how to handle it = an inflated sense of self-importance without anything of any real substance to back it up.

Well you know what they say, if you've got it, flaunt it; if you haven't got it, flaunt it even more! It does kind of remind me of people who hire limousines for a night and hang out the windows bawling at everyone they see, out of some messed up idea that poor people have of how the rich live.

On the whole, some women are nice, some women aren't, some men are nice, some aren't, same as yesterday, same as tomorrow. If you don't like them keep away from them, eventually they'll get the message.

WhiteWashMan

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Sober people dont enjoy being around merry drunk people. I certainly dont. Two drunken merry people will get along like a house on fire.

Is that because you actually cant relate to anyone when youre sober?

Its sad that you feel that someone needs to be as equally drunk in order to actually enjoy your company.

mickd

Deleted User wrote: »

as I earn more than my other half, I more than pay my way.

QED proves the point of this whole thread, as with lot of Irish women a good salary is the cornerstone of a good relationship, why else mention it?

stratospheres

Oh no, we don't all drink like fish?! :rolleyes:

I hate that atttitude of a lot of people I know, just because I don't always wanna go out and get pished there must be something wrong with me!



I find the whole debate about Irish women hilarious.

I can only speak from my own experience as an average Irish girl, not in the least bit full of myself...

Most Irish girls I know are spoiled little b1tches, especially around my age!
None of them are stunning, they either make little or no effort (like myself) or they feel the need to trowel on the makeup and have the fake tan, fake nails, fake hair, fake everything look!
A lot of us are unfit, crap diet and not exercising.
I can safely say I don't have a mufifn top though!

Jazzy

everyone on the emerald isle thinks they are gods gift.

thats why we have called it the 'emerald' isle in the first place. the emerald implies that we are not of the same ilk as the rest of the world and landed from heaven or something. everyone is right and we all have this high handed impression that there is a proper way to act, a thinly veiled level which we should all be trying to reach and for those of us who believe we are closer to the bar then the rest of the paupers - it is our duty to look down our noses and deride these less fortunates...

to sum up, im basically saying that the irish are the most stuck up ppl on the planet

Tha Gopher

WhiteWashMan wrote: »

Is that because you actually cant relate to anyone when youre sober?

Its sad that you feel that someone needs to be as equally drunk in order to actually enjoy your company.

re the first point, no. However, like mos Irish people I like to get pissed at the weekend. This may prove to be a pain in the arse for light drinkers in your company, but its how we have done it for hundreds of years and I see no reason we should stop just because a small miniroty of drinkers get violent and fill up the A&E.

If Im sober I dont enjoy the company of drunks. They are talking sh1te, slurring words, telling you your the best etc etc etc. I used to work a late evening shift, and whenever a work do would be on Id arrive in around 11:30. Id have to hit the shots or doubles straight away just to tolerate the bollix people were talking. When you are also drunk and participatiting in a similiar manner it is alot more tolerable.

Raekwon

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Isnt your bird Slovak? You would want to read up on your ice hockey rivalry son

Nope, my bird is actually Czech (my best mate is engaged to a Slovak). Yeah they certainly like their ice hockey in that part of the world, I'd actually go as far to say that it is the number one sport over there (with football a close second). Btw the Czech's always murder the Slovak's in hockey, football, beer brewing........you name it, they do it better north of the boarder

As for you thinking that Czech women look similar to Irish women, I (surprisingly) beg to differ. The amount of Czech model's alone should be a dead giveaway to their superiority in the looks department. They also win hands-down when it comes to personality. Come to think of it, there is really no contest.

Tha Gopher

Raekwon wrote: »

Nope, my bird is actually Czech (my best mate is engaged to a Slovak). Yeah they certainly like their ice hockey in that part of the world, I'd actually go as far to say that it is the number one sport over there (with football a close second). Btw the Czech's always murder the Slovak's in hockey, football, beer brewing........you name it, they do it better north of the boarder

As for you thinking that Czech women look similar to Irish women, I (surprisingly) beg to differ. The amount of Czech model's alone should be a dead giveaway to their superiority in the looks department. They also win hands-down when it comes to personality. Come to think of it, there is really no contest.

Ah, pardon for that one No though, wasnt saying Czech women look similiar to Irish, just that looks wise they may only slightly be infront, whereas the Slovaks simply run away with the contest. As for famous Czech/Slovak models, there seems to be a different quality barometer in the fashion world. They like EE models to be the man on the streets image of beautiful (Adriana Karembu, Petra Nemcova, Eva Herzigova (SP for all of those :rolleyes: ). In England and the US many of them are either ok but a bit plain (Kate Moss) or, in the case of Lily Cole, downright rough. Models in Ireland dont even seem to attempt to make it big internationally. They can earn 500 a day standing on O`Connell Street in a bikini promoting x or ys latest promotion and getting their photo in the indo, its as if they are comfortable where they are so why bother trying to penetrate the international market. Whereas in EE, I doub domestic models get paid a huge amount, which is why everyone aims for the bigger international scene.

As for beer brewing, its a bizarre contrast that two countries bordering each other with a common history and a near identical language have such different attitudes. Czechs can sink as much beer as we can, and everywhere you look people are walking down the street drinking cans. In Prague there is a beer kiosk on the main streets maybe every 40 ft! Slovaks drink, but not nearly as much., and street drinking really isnt their thing.

Raekwon

Ah, pardon for that one No though, wasnt saying Czech women look similiar to Irish, just that looks wise they may only slightly be infront, whereas the Slovaks simply run away with the contest. As for famous Czech/Slovak models, there seems to be a different quality barometer in the fashion world. They like EE models to be the man on the streets image of beautiful (Adriana Karembu, Petra Nemcova, Eva Herzigova (SP for all of those ). In England and the US many of them are either ok but a bit plain (Kate Moss) or, in the case of Lily Cole, downright rough. Models in Ireland dont even seem to attempt to make it big internationally. They can earn 500 a day standing on O`Connell Street in a bikini promoting x or ys latest promotion and getting their photo in the indo, its as if they are comfortable where they are so why bother trying to penetrate the international market. Whereas in EE, I doub domestic models get paid a huge amount, which is why everyone aims for the bigger international scene.

As for beer brewing, its a bizarre contrast that two countries bordering each other with a common history and a near identical language have such different attitudes. Czechs can sink as much beer as we can, and everywhere you look people are walking down the street drinking cans. In Prague there is a beer kiosk on the main streets maybe every 40 ft! Slovaks drink, but not nearly as much., and street drinking really isnt their thing.

No problem, you were close enough in fairness Czechs & Slovaks share the same gene pool anyway so they would be extremely similar looking for the most part. The only way to distinguish between the two is from their language and you would need a very well trained ear to be able to do that. As for the models, I think comparing Irish models to Czech models is like comparing Aston Martin's to Ford Fiesta's. I cannot think of any Irish models aside from Glenda Gilson & Andrea Roche and they wouldn't really be International class anyway. It's true that Czech models go more for international work but there is a huge international demand for them because they are tall, slim and have stunning features. Plus if you look around at the billboards in Prague all you will see are photos of Petra Nemcova selling everything from jewellery to laptops so the money seems to be just as good (if not better) in EE as it is here.

I agree with you about the beer situation though. Czech Republic have lovely beers like Pilsner Urquell, Gambrinus, Staropramen, Budvar (Budweiser), but to name a few, and all Slovakia has to show for itself is the foul tasting Zlaty Bazant Like you said, it really is a bizarre contrast between the two countries. But then again Czech's consume the most alcohol in the world (per capita) so I guess they feel the need for such a quality assortment of beer to keep themselves happy. Fair play to them

Supercell

Too many Irish girls seem to want to be mini Miriam O'Callaghan's, they end up looking like their make-up is trowelled on and that they would spend every penny you had if they got half a chance.

dudara

There's far too much credence here to the idea of a woman's drinking ability being part of her attractiveness. It doesn't reflect well on us as a nation.

It doesn't matter where a woman is from as long as she conducts herself with dignity and grace and respects herself and those around her. You can do this with alcohol in you or not. Unfortunately most girls you see on the street at 1 am in the morning rolling out of nightclubs don't conduct themselves with any dignity.

Ulysses Gaze

Unfortunately most girls you see on the street at 1 am in the morning rolling out of nightclubs don't conduct themselves with any dignity.

Yeah...but that's the behaviour that to some people makes Irish girls greater 'craic' than their foreign counterparts :rolleyes:

Laslo

dudara wrote: »

Unfortunately most girls you see on the street at 1 am in the morning rolling out of nightclubs don't conduct themselves with any dignity.

Neither do many of the men. It's not exclusive to gender.

mickd

mickd wrote: »

QED proves the point of this whole thread, as with lot of Irish women a good salary is the cornerstone of a good relationship, why else mention it?

I genuinely don't understand what you mean by that.

Salary isn't in the same league as kindness, intelligence and sincerity when it comes to relationships.

I made the point that I earn more than my man to refute previous claims that all Irish women are out to bag a bloke with money.
I have my own money, my own house and I'm not the only Irish women who isn't financially dependent on her man.

If we're talking purely physical here, well in general, French, Italian, Spanish, American, Czech, Russian and Aussie men would be far more attractive than Irish men.

A lot of Irish women are lazy sods, I agree but a lot of Irish men are too.
I'm just speaking up for the physically fit, healthy Irish women who don't fit the stereotype perpetrated on this thread!

Wertz

Deleted User wrote: »

I genuinely don't understand what you mean by that.

He means that by mentioning the fact that you have a decent salary and hence don't rely on his as much as other Irish females might on their OH or potential OH, that you are in fact hitting home the point that salary/money is an important part of the relationship.

...and of course money is an important part...it would be naive and somewhat idealistic to think otherwise. But it is only a part; I think the reason this topic came up at all is the apparent view by Irish men that Irish women, especially in our modern age are only out for what they can get; a view that Irish women don't do a lot to dispell in my own experience. Not just Irish women though, in fairness...

dudara

Laslo wrote: »

Neither do many of the men. It's not exclusive to gender.

True, I stand corrected there.

mickd

Wertz wrote: »

He means that by mentioning the fact that
...a Not just Irish women though, in fairness...

Cheers for that

WhiteWashMan

Tha Gopher wrote: »

but its how we have done it for hundreds of years and I see no reason we should stop just because a small miniroty of drinkers get violent and fill up the A&E.

Oh well then, sure if its tradition, then its good eh?

Tha Gopher wrote: »

If Im sober I dont enjoy the company of drunks.

And people dontlike talking to you when youre sober. I can se your quandry all right. Quite the pickle.

Tha Gopher wrote: »

They are talking sh1te, slurring words, telling you your the best etc etc etc. I used to work a late evening shift, and whenever a work do would be on Id arrive in around 11:30. Id have to hit the shots or doubles straight away just to tolerate the bollix people were talking. When you are also drunk and participatiting in a similiar manner it is alot more tolerable.

If you stopped hanging around with other ****, it probably wouldnt seem so bad.

shane86

Raekwon wrote: »

Plus if you look around at the billboards in Prague all you will see are photos of Petra Nemcova selling everything from jewellery to laptops so the money seems to be just as good (if not better) in EE as it is here.

When I was there i half suspected there was something in Czech law that stated every ad for pretty much any product should have either Petra Nemcova or Petr Cech promoting it Honestly, Petra was on a poster every few feet (not that anyone is objecting, although I did nearly get hit by a tram while lookin at a poster and walking :eek: ) and Petr Cech advertised any product directed at a male audience.

Never actually heard of the bird before I went. She is on some laptop ad over here now, and they show her face for a grand total of 3 odd seconds, wtf Why they dont show her properly for the full 40 odd seconds is iditic.

Jeebus

Didn't read the replies, but OP is describing a prevalent sub-section of Irish women which does not exist (or certainly is not as popular) in other countries.

IMO not all Irish women are like this, of course, but there is a certain group of them who are just so snobbish you want to slap them on the side of their heads.

I'm sure even the women of boards can attest to having some mates who, while being incredibly, odiously ugly(inside and out), still manage to have an incredibly high opinion of themselves.

I have some male friends who are cocky too, but not to such a degree (mostly because if they were, they'd be beaten three times to Sunday).

In appearance in general I've always liked Irish women though....thats more of a personal thing though....pale is far sexier than tanned, pale with red hair and you're mine ! (Take note )

Zombrex

I fully support this rant ... ugly Irish women should realise that they are ugly, they should feel bad about being ugly, and they should be grateful if an Irish boy talks to them.

Jeebus

Wicknight wrote: »

I fully support this rant ... ugly Irish women should realise that they are ugly, they should feel bad about being ugly, and they should be grateful if an Irish boy talks to them.

And also, make us sandwiches.

Laslo

Wicknight wrote: »

I fully support this rant ... ugly Irish women should realise that they are ugly, they should feel bad about being ugly, and they should be grateful if an Irish boy talks to them.

Hmmm. Personally I think the point that should be noted is that Irish women (and men) should exercise social skills by being friendly and courteous to each other unless they have a very good reason to do otherwise. I think Jeebus' point about ugly women being arrogant and rude stands for attractive women also. It doesn't matter what the fcuk you look like, If you're a insolent b1tch or an arrogant d1ckhead then you're an ugly person.

Zombrex

Laslo wrote: »

Hmmm. Personally I think the point that should be noted is that Irish women (and men) should exercise social skills by being friendly and courteous to each other unless they have a very good reason to do otherwise.

Well personally I think the point should be that the male members of Boards.ie (which includes myself) should really try and go 5 minutes without another rant on After Hours along the lines of some random woman said something that upset me in a night club so I've now decided to hate all Irish women because it really makes us all look like 12 year olds.

The logic behind these (increasingly common posts) is quite brilliant in its simplicity :- I've met a few foreign women, none of them have been mean to me. I've met tons of Irish women, some of them have been mean to me. Therefore Irish women suck, foreign women are nice.

But I suppose it is Christmas, a time for giving, so we can have a few more of these rants.

Karlusss

People misjudging their own attractiveness is always hilarious.

Leads to ridiculous clothing, impoliteness, being easy to make up for not actually being attractive, etc.

For both sexes.

They should learn to hug the wall and stare at the beer like the rest of us.

metrovelvet

Wibbs wrote: »

I have to say Americans can be as bad if not worse.....

Ahem. This I believe really is a cultural difference. It is "normal" in the US for the guy to pick up the tab, whether for a couple of ice creams or a full meal. Perhaps its because in general meals are cheaper in the US. This had been a huge bone of contention with me at one point when dating an irish man.I felt quite disturbed by him not picking up the tab so I took a survey and asked 15 men [Americans] what they thought of a man who does not pick up the tab. The responses ranged from scumbag, bottom of the barrell, low life, ****back, lowest of the low, dump him, etc. So I took it as a huge sign of disrespect and didnt take the relationship as seriously as I might have and ended up disrespecting the relationship itself.

Wibbs wrote: »

I'm with your friend on this one. For a myriad of reasons I haven't gone near an Irish woman in nearly 8 years. I have found a certain harshness in them. A certain, "the world owes me something", "daddies little princess" syndrome. While it's present in other cultures, it's seems more prevalent here. Every single one of my mates who has gone elsewhere has never gone back. Which is all good, as the Irish women wouldn't have a bar of us anyway.:D In any case it's better for the gene pool if Irish men and women avoid each other. All that said, two of the sweetest women I know are Irish so........

From a foreigners perspective, I find Irish women a little brittle, like the need management. Also they are either totally subservient or complete overbearing controlling pains in the asses.

I find the men well... not very woman friendly.

Laslo

metrovelvet wrote: »

From a foreigners perspective, I find Irish women a little brittle, like the need management. Also they are either totally subservient or complete overbearing controlling pains in the asses.

Needy women are generally control freaks so whether they're needy or overbearing you're effectively saying Irish women are control freaks. As much as I hate to agree with you - I do. Nearly every Irish woman I know is a control freak, sadly. Although Irish women do have some great qualities that make up for it! (not that we should be generalising, of course )

metrovelvet wrote: »

I find the men well... not very woman friendly.

Could you elaborate on that? I'd be interested to know why you feel that way.

mastermind2005

Laslo wrote: »

At the end of the day, Irish people in general have become more arrogant over the last few years since the economy has improved. More money + people who don't know how to handle it = an inflated sense of self-importance without anything of any real substance to back it up. The best thing about being successful and 'important' is being civilised and polite. A lot of people in this country could do with taking that on board. That goes for both men and women.

+1

vorbis

metrovelvet wrote: »

Ahem. This I believe really is a cultural difference. It is "normal" in the US for the guy to pick up the tab, whether for a couple of ice creams or a full meal. Perhaps its because in general meals are cheaper in the US. This had been a huge bone of contention with me at one point when dating an irish man.I felt quite disturbed by him not picking up the tab so I took a survey and asked 15 men [Americans] what they thought of a man who does not pick up the tab. The responses ranged from scumbag, bottom of the barrell, low life, ****back, lowest of the low, dump him, etc. So I took it as a huge sign of disrespect and didnt take the relationship as seriously as I might have and ended up disrespecting the relationship itself.

Did you happen to live in Texas?
I live in Boston now. The norm is that the girl buys her share of drink, food while on dates. This is if they're both around the same salary. It seems to have been that way for a while and rightly so.

thefinalstage

metrovelvet wrote: »

Ahem. This I believe really is a cultural difference. It is "normal" in the US for the guy to pick up the tab, whether for a couple of ice creams or a full meal. Perhaps its because in general meals are cheaper in the US. This had been a huge bone of contention with me at one point when dating an irish man.I felt quite disturbed by him not picking up the tab so I took a survey and asked 15 men [Americans] what they thought of a man who does not pick up the tab. The responses ranged from scumbag, bottom of the barrell, low life, ****back, lowest of the low, dump him, etc. So I took it as a huge sign of disrespect and didnt take the relationship as seriously as I might have and ended up disrespecting the relationship itself.

Equal rights my arse!

metrovelvet wrote:

From a foreigners perspective, I find Irish women a little brittle, like the need management. Also they are either totally subservient or complete overbearing controlling pains in the asses.

I find the men well... not very woman friendly.

You obviously haven't met any of the fine men of Boards. To quote one example. Pig Man is a whole different breed.

metrovelvet

You should move to NYC. What your talking about goes on in college. Once people are earning it changes.

metrovelvet

metrovelvet wrote: »

Ahem. This I believe really is a cultural difference. It is "normal" in the US for the guy to pick up the tab, whether for a couple of ice creams or a full meal. Perhaps its because in general meals are cheaper in the US. This had been a huge bone of contention with me at one point when dating an irish man.I felt quite disturbed by him not picking up the tab so I took a survey and asked 15 men [Americans] what they thought of a man who does not pick up the tab. The responses ranged from scumbag, bottom of the barrell, low life, ****back, lowest of the low, dump him, etc. So I took it as a huge sign of disrespect and didnt take the relationship as seriously as I might have and ended up disrespecting the relationship itself.



From a foreigners perspective, I find Irish women a little brittle, like the need management. Also they are either totally subservient or complete overbearing controlling pains in the asses.

I find the men well... not very woman friendly.

American womanhood was forged by prostitutes on the frontier; it isn't surprising that men are willing to pay for your attention today.
I personally find that expectancy that you can be bought degrading and very unappealing.

I would also like you to elaborate on your points. I don't comphrend this sentance

"I find Irish women a little brittle, like the need management"

Also examples of what mes you think Irish women are subserviant.
We have a culture of balls of steel Mamie Overlords.

Spyral

I'm dating a british girl, pretty cute and has an adorable voice. Seeing as looks fade in time anyway voice ftw and I'm sick of mid louth dis dat and de udder girls who cannot speak properly.

Wertz

Spyral wrote: »

and I'm sick of mid louth dis dat and de udder girls who cannot speak properly.

lmao

Raekwon

metrovelvet wrote: »

This had been a huge bone of contention with me at one point when dating an irish man.I felt quite disturbed by him not picking up the tab so I took a survey and asked 15 men [Americans] what they thought of a man who does not pick up the tab.

You took a survey :rolleyes: Your whole post puts Irish women into perspective. Cheers for that

I'm getting really sick of people eradicating all interest out of hiberno-english by assuming a southern california twang.
We'll be having a bring back de udder cultural movement next.

thefinalstage

Raekwon wrote: »

You took a survey :rolleyes: Your whole post puts Irish women into perspective. Cheers for that

Is she not an Americano?

Raekwon

thelastangryman wrote: »

Is she not an Americano?

Yeah she is (as far as I can tell). My point was, no matter how bad we think Irish girls are........it could be alot worse

Wertz

Moonbaby wrote: »

I'm getting really sick of people eradicating all interest out of hiberno-english by assuming a southern california twang.
We'll be having a bring back de udder cultural movement next.

Nah it's only pretentious idiots who do the whole So-Cal, high rising terminal thing. Take a lot more than those wannabes to do away with our myriad of culchie and townie accents...
At least like oh my god, I like sooo hope so?

I've heard it, the exact same non-accent in every backwater in the republic. It is of epidemic proportions.

Wertz

Aye you're probably right....but when people plonk their kids down in front of the TV from age 2 and leave them to the mercy of daytime telly, and mainly US-oriented kids' TV shows then throw them all into a big room together, what can you really expect?
The evils of the mid-atlantic accent are already entrenched.

Anyway, way OT....yeah stuck up Irish wimminz; what's up with that?

metrovelvet

Moonbaby wrote: »

American womanhood was forged by prostitutes on the frontier; it isn't surprising that men are willing to pay for your attention today.
I personally find that expectancy that you can be bought degrading and very unappealing.

I would also like you to elaborate on your points. I don't comphrend this sentance

"I find Irish women a little brittle, like the need management"

Also examples of what mes you think Irish women are subserviant.
We have a culture of balls of steel Mamie Overlords.

Thats not what they are doing. They are acknowledging a courtship. Your post says alot about you and your attitude to women, both Irish and American women. No one should take it personally thought. You probably hate everybody.

thefinalstage

metrovelvet wrote: »

Thats not what they are doing. They are acknowledging a courtship. Your post says alot about you and your attitude to women, both Irish and American women. No one should take it personally thought. You probably hate everybody.

You have money too why not pay?

metrovelvet

It's customary. Its a way of acknowledging that you are not just **** buddies or flatmates, that it is a courtship.

Wertz

thelastangryman wrote: »

You have money too why not pay?

What, when some other sucker is willing to put his hand in his pocket?
Would you?
Hell, I'm thinking of going for a sex change and putting an american twang to my accent on the basis of the last two pages of this thread alone...
I'll never have to go hungry again and those silly drinks bills will be ancient history!

[edit] Seriously though metrovelvet, I'm intrigued; at what point during the relationship is it "payback time"? I mean I can understand this sort of practice amongst settled or married couples, like having a joint mortgage or bank account....but at the point of the beginning (ie maybe the first few months in a relationship) shouldn't going dutch be the norm unless one or other in the reltionship is substantially poorer?

speaktofrank

I have not dated an Irish girl since I left college....5 years ago. Some are good craic alright, the decent looking ones seem to know it and won't be content you feel until Colin Farell/some guy from Westlife discovers them and falls madly in love.
I have been out with French/Spanish/American/Polish/Australian girls and even the best looking ones have not been up themselves. Yet everytime I come back here it's always the same story. I find it easier chatting up foreign girls rather than Irish girls.
Why is that? Does anyone feel the same or have the same experiences? I've dated some gorgeous foreign girls yet if those same girls were Irish they would not give me the time of day, never mind tell me be on my way.

metrovelvet

American women who have their own money would not be bothered dining with assholes for a free meal when they can pay for their own meal.

What is wrong with you people?

And it's not forever, its just in the beginning.

thefinalstage

metrovelvet wrote: »

American women who have their own money would not be bothered dining with assholes for a free meal when they can pay for their own meal.

What is wrong with you people?

And it's not forever, its just in the beginning.

Whats wrong with you? Pay your half if you have the cash!

Wertz

metrovelvet wrote: »

What is wrong with you people?

Touché

I think you said it best back up the thread about it being a cultural thing although IME, women I went out with in the US weren't like that. One even took mild offence to me wanting to pay for stuff....am I now to find out that they were in fact not considering our blossoming relationship as a "courtship"?
Just as well I suppose, neither was I...

metrovelvet

How long ago were you in the US?

Nowadays with **** buddies, casual sex etc, etc its the last bastion of knowing where you stand. Bear in mind also that we have been living in a conservative age. The next election could change all this.

And its not "stuff" - its just meals really.