Most improved players for your club this season and players who have gone backwards

smuckers

Mine:

Chelsea:

John Obi Mikel (has to stop making rash challenges tho)
Alex ( ok he only came this season but after a slow start he's been immense)

backards:

J Cole (back to his hammer days, yes he has scored a peach at the weekend, has contributed very little this season, bar the through ball to Drogs against Valencia)

Kalou ( has the ability to beat his man, never takes the right option, I hope he improves just can't see it happening)

SWP ( unfortuanatelyafter a good spell last year, he isn't playing well at all)

Essien( since Jose left, he's been shockingly poor, he's become so ordinary)

Esse85

Aston Villa

Improved : Agbonlahor, Young

Backwards : Davies,

PHB

United:

Forwards:

Ferdinand (he was good last year, but this season he has been utterly immense)
Rooney (I think his game has improved a whole lot after last year, and the best is about to come from him)

Backwards:
Carrick (who seems to have lost all his ability as a footballer)
Saha (who seems to have lost all his ability as a footballer)

_blank_

My Club : Shels

Most Improved : :eek: Er, we only had two lads who played for us the previous season, Jim Crawford and James Chambers. Chambers should be in the premier division, and had a smashing season. Jimbo was injured a lot of the time, and is now gone from the club. Legends both of them for sticking with Shels.

The club is also "most improved".

Going backwards : The dwindling fan numbers.

PDN

Arsenal:

Forwards - Just about everybody, but Flamini and Hleb in particular.

Backwards - Henry & Ljungberg Also, Lehman - always a nut, but now a bitter nut on the bench.

ciaran76

Everton

Going Forward : Osman

Backwards : Hibbert

mike65

Liverpool

Most improved, none really unless I can cheat by saying Harry Kewell

Players gone backwards - Jamie Carragher. Last season with Agger he was fantastic but this season without his prefered partner he has struggled at times (and too many hoofed balls). Mentions for Crouch (lack of starts) and Kuyt who is never going to be more than a willing foil for Torres.

Mike.

ciaran76

I have some similar chats with my mates about Carragher and it seems almost no one see's what you see Mike.
By the way I agree 100% with you and one other mate does but some mates were saying its cos of the changing defenders every week etc etc.

Too me it looks like he has lost a little bit of pace. He can adjust his game as all good defenders do when they start losing the their pace.
I know he wasn't blessed with lightening speed in the 1st place but I think you know what I mean ?

PHB

Personally I think Carragher is playing at a similar level, it's just that Liverpool have adjusted there ethos and are slightly more attacking.

Lex Luthor

Liverpool:

Improved: Arbeloa, Masch

Gone Backwards: Riise (at an alarming rate)

Next year it will be all about the Lucas......

therecklessone

Spurs

Most improved:

Malbranque, stamini has improved a lot so lasts the full 90 minutes. Always felt he was a good buy.

Backwards:

Dawson, struggling under the weight of being the senior CB in King's absence. Also worried about his absence through illness at the moment, he's suffering from migraines (Dean Richard's loss of form was due to his ill health)

redzerdrog

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Liverpool:

Improved: Arbeloa, Masch

Gone Backwards: Riise (at an alarming rate)

Next year it will be all about the Lucas......

same as and also sissoko gone backwards

DSB

Not much to mention for Shels as Des said, so I'll choose Villa
Most improved: Wilfred Bouma
Gone backwards (in the sense that he'll probably never play for us again): Thomas Sorensen

homerjay2005

looking at alot of clubs, i could name many players that are performing well below par this season. Some of the Arsenal players on the other had have improved immensely since last season. Likewise players like Anelka and Banjani (even though they were also decent last season) have made big improvments.

For united,

Most improved:
Evra, the lad just gets better and better.

Gone Backwards:

Carrick.
Saha.

Tusky

Liverpool

Improved:
Arbeloa - Hes been surprisingly consistent. Can defend and attack. Great little player and an absolute bargain

Mascherano - We only saw a cameo last season of about 10 games. He has been immense this season. Our best player after Torres &
Gerrard.

Kewell - Played 1 game last year. Has featured in the last 10 this year and has 5 assists. Has really improved our left hand side. Heres hoping he stays fit.

Gerrard - Was good last season but not his usual electric self. After coming through a bad run of form early this season he has been immense. 11 goals and about the same in assists, he is a vital player.

Backwards:
Riise - Contributes very little going forward and is shaky at the back. Hasnt scored in the league in over a year

Carragher - Too many fouls & bad tackles. He has given away a few penalties and hasnt been his usual rock solid self

Sissoko - Our team has moved on in terms of the type of game we are playing. We are attacking more and keeping possession and passing the ball more than in the past. Sissoko hasnt adapted well to this new style of play.

Kuyt - Has been very poor this season. Gives the ball away a lot and offers little in front of goal

delta_bravo

Blackburn

Improving:
Bentley and Santa Cruz have gone from strength to strength.

Declining:

Benni Mc Carthy has had a bad start to the season and the decline of Pedersen worries me. He was our formidable playmaker and now is just a squad player.

Chardee MacDennis

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Liverpool:

Improved: Arbeloa, Masch

Gone Backwards: Riise (at an alarming rate)

Next year it will be all about the Lucas......

agree with that also sissoko and crouch, who doesnt seem to try as hard when things aren't going his way, have gone backward.

kensutz

Norwich

Improving: Gary Doherty (again!!), Luke Chadwick

Declining: Chris Martin,

Nalz

Manchester United

Improving
O Shea, Evra, Ronaldo

Backwards
Saha (sick note, getting worse), Van Der Saar (maybe a little critical there)

kaisersose77

Trilla wrote: »

Manchester United

Improving
Evra, Ronaldo

Backwards
Saha (sick note, getting worse), Van Der Saar (maybe a little critical there),O Shea

sorry you had a typo

how can you say O'Shea is improving, he's beyond bad at this stage, it seems like he reached his peak after his first season with United and has being going rapidly downhill since.

Raekwon

Aston Villa

Forward: Martin Laursen - The big Dane joined Villa in 2004 and spent most of that time on the treatment table but this season he has been in outstanding form and has even weighed in with a few goals. All this while carrying Zat 'Walking Liability' Knight in the centre of defence.

Backwards: Luke Moore - After his blistering pre-season form I finally thought that this would be Luke's year. The guy has bags of potential but has never really held down a regular first team place and now that he has turned down a new contract it seems like his heart isn't in it any more. Such a shame.

MrJoeSoap

Most Improved: Stern John, not technically "improved" but I had it in my head that he would flop and he is doing the opposite. Strictly speaking I'd say Bradley Wright-Phillips is most improved.

Backwards: Marek Saganowski, remember him?

ROCKMAN

UNITED

Forward
EVRA

Backward
Carrick

Passed it
Giggs
It breaks my heart to say this but father-time has finally caught up with the legend

gustavo

Most Improved

Faz Kudozovic - from frustratingly inconsistent winger to skillful influential striker

Gone Backwards ,

Keith Foy - has the talent but zero application

Xavi6

Didi Hamann has been nothing short of sensational. Everyone thought he was finished but now he's our mvp

Smegball

Xavi6 wrote: »

Didi Hamann has been nothing short of sensational. Everyone thought he was finished but now he's our mvp

I would of thought Elano or Dunne would be your MVP.

OPENROAD

Arsenal:

Improved.

Clichy: Gets better with every match, and certainly one of the best LB in the country if not the best.

Gallas: Had a slow start to his Arsenal career, but since been given the captaincy has shown that Arsenal certainly got the best out of the Cole deal.

Fabregas: I am not in the least surprised by his goalscoring this season,very unlucky last season not to have been on score sheet more.

Flamini: Again a player who I feel has been unlucky in previous seasons, played LB for us in champions league final season for a good chunk of matches and was superb, unlucky not to start cl final. Was close to leaving club, got his chance in cm and has not looked back.

Hleb: Superb on the ball, imo has also got stronger this season, not easily pushed off the ball now.

Adebayor: While comparisons with Henry are unfair, he is slowly turning into a top class striker.

Backwards:

Hard one this, would be unfair to say Lehman as he has not been in team. Possibly Rosicky which is maybe slightly harsh but would like him to be more consistent.

Xavi6

Smegball wrote: »

I would of thought Elano or Dunne would be your MVP.

Well Elano hasn't done anything for weeks due to injury. Dunne is rock solid but was that way last season too. Hamann was apparently on the scrap heap last year and the turn around under Sven has been sensational. I only wish he was 5 or 6 years younger. Any City fan will tell you the same.

Dave!

MAN UNITED

Forward:
Evra, Ferdinand, Rooney

Backward:
Giggs, Carrick

Limerick Dude

Newcastle : Going forward

Nzogbia - Is been playing out of position all season at left back but he puts in a great performance nearly every game, dfinetly one for the future.

Milner - Same as above, this kid will no doubt be in the england senior squad soon enough, he is just pure class, always gives 110%

Backwards - Martins - not as effective as he was last season but its probably due to the fact that he is being played on the right rather than a striker.


Our 1st 11 is generally a new team so cant really comment on the new players, but they could all do with rolling their sleeves and stop feckin around :@:@:@:@:

Timans

MAN UNITED

Forward

Fletcher - When he first began to play he looked like an unskilled, out of his depth player but now when he makes an appearance he looks like a very solid hard working player who would fit in well at 80% of the clubs in the Premiership.

Vidic - Well, he's become one of the strongest CB's in the Premiership.

Backward

Giggs - Yes, he was a brilliant player with a fantastic career, but he's simply not up it anymore. At least when Scholes got older, he changed his game and played a more reserved midfield role, Giggs is still trying to beat players.

PDN

PDN wrote: »

Arsenal:

Forwards - Just about everybody, but Flamini and Hleb in particular.

Backwards - Henry & Ljungberg Also, Lehman - always a nut, but now a bitter nut on the bench.

Agreed 100%.

Forward: I think you could say the majority of Arsenal players stood up to be counted this year, in particular Hleb who is stronger and more demanding of the ball. Flamini i always rated but as we have seen him in more games you could say he has improved. Almunia isnt as bad a gk as people make out

Backwards: Eboue, Senderos (further then last year), Gilberto (he was prob our best player, arguably last year).

Mr Alan

Xavi6 wrote: »

Well Elano hasn't done anything for weeks due to injury. Dunne is rock solid but was that way last season too. Hamann was apparently on the scrap heap last year and the turn around under Sven has been sensational. I only wish he was 5 or 6 years younger. Any City fan will tell you the same.

never wanted him to leave liverpool. absolute legend. fantastic player

estebancambias

Improved: Aquilani, Doni, Vucinic

Backward: Mancini, what the hell happened to him? One minute he and Totti are the best of buddys, then they are fighting each other. He and Spalletti have had a falling out as well..the result this is not the Mancini of 2006.

JæKæ

estebancambias wrote: »

Improved: Aquilani, Doni, Vucinic

Backward: Mancini, what the hell happened to him? One minute he and Totti are the best of buddys, then they are fighting each other. He and Spalletti have had a falling out as well..the result this is not the Mancini of 2006.

Vucinic is a class striker alright. I take it he will be playing for Montenegro when we play them in the qualifiers?

evad_lhorg

United

Forward:
Evra gets better most times I see him but he has took a few dives this season which I dont like but not enough to dislike him. Ronaldo had an amazing season last season but so far this season he has been even better. Giggs has been brilliant this season especially compared to the last one.
Anderson.... now I know he is new but for someone who didnt seem like he started good he has had big boots to fiill since the ginger lad got injured and he has been absolutely amazing. unlike his mate Nani

Backwards:
Carrick, well backwards is the only way I can describe him. his passes all go that way too.
Saha. thats all I have to say about that,

estebancambias

JæKæ wrote: »

Vucinic is a class striker alright. I take it he will be playing for Montenegro when we play them in the qualifiers?

Yeah, yeah..I expect him to play in a deeper role though..

Attractive Nun

Will just repeat what others have said about United:

Forwards:
Evra - it's hard to believe he was fighting with the floundering Heinze for his place last season, has become immense and without doubt one of the best left backs in the world. As good as Gary Neville in his prime.

Ferdinand - i've always regarded him as a great defender, but this season (in PHB's parlance) he's been utterly utterly utterly brilliant. Has everything as a defender, and his consitency this season makes him IMO the best centre back in the Premiership right now.

Backwards:

Carrick - wasn't great last season by any means, but he was at least trying to improve himself and towards the end of the season put in some displays that indicated he might be able to establish a place in the team. Not happening at all.

Saha - jaysus



I would also like to point out my admiration for the Arsenal team, they have really pulled it out of the bag. Anyone could have predicted that Fabregas would become the immense player he has, but still deserves a lot of credit. Gallas has become a fantastic captain and cemented a great partership with Toure, but again it's still somewhat predictable as we all knew they were great players. But elsewhere, it's unreal the improvement some players have made. Hleb, Flamini and Adebayor were pretty average last season, now they are amazingly good. Sagna and Clichy have become the best full back combination in the league. Even Almunia has stepped up. If Rosicky and Van Persie start to live up to their obvious potential, everyone else is rightly ****ed.

eZe^

Forward;

Iniesta- the complete midfielder, better than Fabregas imo... Cant praise him highly enough, prob my favourite barca player at the moment.

Messi- not much needs to be said, he needed to learn to pass the ball and a better finisher.. He's still a little overly selfish, but he is setting up bucket loads of goals also. He carried the team to a number of victories..


Backwards; (could write an essay here)

Ronnie- He just seems like he doesnt care.. So much talent, but he doesnt seem to be applying himself, doubt we'll ever see his 2005 form again at this club...

Henry- He seems almost nervous... He is trying really hard though, which i respect alot. I think he is still adapting to his new role because he isnt really top dog anymore, and will be setting up goals this season as well as scoring. Also doubt we'll ever see his arsenal form with his chronic back problems.

kaisersose77

Timans wrote: »

MAN UNITED

Forward

Fletcher - When he first began to play he looked like an unskilled, out of his depth player but now when he makes an appearance he looks like a very solid hard working player who would fit in well at 80% of the clubs in the Premiership.

Vidic - Well, he's become one of the strongest CB's in the Premiership.

Backward

Giggs - Yes, he was a brilliant player with a fantastic career, but he's simply not up it anymore. At least when Scholes got older, he changed his game and played a more reserved midfield role, Giggs is still trying to beat players.

Fletcher barely played at all this season and think he made his first start in the last week or so....

Guy:Incognito

Xavi6 wrote: »

Well Elano hasn't done anything for weeks due to injury. Dunne is rock solid but was that way last season too. Hamann was apparently on the scrap heap last year and the turn around under Sven has been sensational. I only wish he was 5 or 6 years younger. Any City fan will tell you the same.

If he was 5 or 6 years younger he'd still be at Liverpool.

I'd still like to have him and never agreed with getting rid in favour of Sissoko.