Mike Huckabee

purple'n'gold

Mike Huckabee, the republican winner of the Iowa caucus believes in Biblical inerrancy. Would you Adam and Eve it?

Lirange

Reasons to be wary of Huckleberry:

• Another bible belt politician pandering to the Christian right

Reasons Huckleberry may not be so bad (as Bush):

• He is splitting the Republican Party. The party establishment, Bush's people, the Neocons, O'Reilly, Limpbaugh, and Wall Street don't like Huckleberry. The economic conservatives and social conservatives are infighting. This is good for the dems short term and long term. Their previous unity led to Dubya in the White House.
  
• He called Bush's foreign policy "arrogant" and said he'd close Gitmo.
  
• He doesn't smirk, doesn't resemble a chimp, and is not as grating when he talks.
  
• Despite some gaffes probably a few IQ pts higher than W ... though I suppose that's not saying much.

Jack Sheehan

Was it Huckabee or Romney who said they wanted to create a 'Theodemocracy' where church and state are inexorably linked? Scary stuff.

Also he once released a rapist because a website told him too, then the man went on to murder two people. (thats the rapist not Huckabee)

Lirange

Jack Sheehan wrote: »

Was it Huckabee or Romney who said they wanted to create a 'Theodemocracy' where church and state are inexorably linked? Scary stuff.

Also he once released a rapist because a website told him too, then the man went on to murder two people. (thats the rapist not Huckabee)

The former refers to Romney. The latter to Huckleberry.

In fairness these are being bandied about by the smear corps so may be inaccurate or out of context. There's plenty of substantive stuff to bash them over the head with though.

Catsmokinpot

Did anyone hear about Ron Paul? now there is a candidate that i would vote for (if i was American of course )

Mr.Micro

purplengold wrote: »

Mike Huckabee, the republican winner of the Iowa caucus believes in Biblical inerrancy. Would you Adam and Eve it?

Well by gum he has his work cut out for him then, sinners aplenty. Probably just another closet evangelist with political ambitions. His bible rhetoric probably appeals to the Republican God fearing Democrat hating population of middle America.

Lirange

Catsmokinpot wrote: »

Did anyone hear about Ron Paul? now there is a candidate that i would vote for (if i was American of course )

I wouldn't be surprised if that's who ManicMoran's voting for

Nightwish

Huckabee reminds me far too much of Bob Roberts. Iowa is chock full of white right wing christians for him to pander to. I'm surprised that Obama did so well out of it, but if there's one thing any god-fearin' christian evangelical hates, its a Clinton.

Jack Sheehan

Catsmokinpot wrote: »

Did anyone hear about Ron Paul? now there is a candidate that i would vote for (if i was American of course )

Tell me now, exactly why would you vote for paul?

ShoulderChip

I would vote for Paul (Ron Paul) ten times a second if I could!

Lirange

Nightwish wrote: »

Huckabee reminds me far too much of Bob Roberts. Iowa is chock full of white right wing christians for him to pander to. I'm surprised that Obama did so well out of it, but if there's one thing any god-fearin' christian evangelical hates, its a Clinton.

I don't think evangelicals are voting for Obama nor take part in the Democratic Caucus. There are many in Iowa but they don't dominate to that extent. Gore won Iowa outright in the 2000 election so Iowa is not as conservative as you might think.

Huckabee's success will actually help the democrats. He's being attacked by Fox Noise and party handlers as a "Christian socialist."

They're eating their own.

amacachi

What more could you want?

Jesus Wept

Obama did well because the Republicans now choose their opponent, and Obama will be the easiest to beat.
Though Clinton won't be much harder, she can't even convince women to vote for her in big numbers.

Nightwish

Lirange wrote: »

I don't think evangelicals are voting for Obama nor take part in the Democratic Caucus. There are many in Iowa but they don't dominate to that extent

I wasnt inferring that the Christian conservatives took part in the democratic caucus. I was just surprised that Obama did so well out of it. I know that the Conservatives arent the majority in Iowa but there are a lot of them there. Its a very rural state and rural dwellers tend to vote republican.

Akrasia

Anyone (including ron paul) who claims that they don't believe in evolution should be automatically disqualified from running for president.

Such a position means they are either one of 3 things.

1. Bat**** insane
2. As thick as a Brick and easily manipulated by one of the most transparent propaganda campaigns of the last 100 years
3. Extremely dishonest and prepared to lie about his/her own beliefs and policies in order to pander to a particular demographic, in which case, how are we to trust anything that they say?


Creationism is not a valid scientific theory, there is no debate, there is only lies and propaganda on one side, and genuine science on the other. (this was proven categorically in a landmark court case a few years ago where creationists tried to get access to the science classes and the judgement was unequivical and utterly damning)


Why would anyone support a candidate that is either insane, lying to them, or a complete idiot?

purple'n'gold

Akrasia wrote: »

Anyone (including ron paul) who claims that they don't believe in evolution should be automatically disqualified from running for president.

Such a position means they are either one of 3 things.

1. Bat**** insane
2. As thick as a Brick and easily manipulated by one of the most transparent propaganda campaigns of the last 100 years
3. Extremely dishonest and prepared to lie about his/her own beliefs and policies in order to pander to a particular demographic, in which case, how are we to trust anything that they say?


Creationism is not a valid scientific theory, there is no debate, there is only lies and propaganda on one side, and genuine science on the other. (this was proven categorically in a landmark court case a few years ago where creationists tried to get access to the science classes and the judgement was unequivical and utterly damning)


Why would anyone support a candidate that is either insane, lying to them, or a complete idiot?

Ever see the film "Inherit the wind" it was based on a true story, check out this link.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/evolut.htm

some of these people are as mad as a bag of hammers.

Loxosceles

If he won the Republican ticket in Iowa, this means only one thing:

Only the armageddonist fringe minority of born-again Ku-Kluxers have the desire to show up amidst the smoking ruins of their nation's reputation and economy, and continue to vote Republican. Yes, Mike Huckabee won the Republican caucus in Iowa...among all 5 of the mentally challenged geriatric Baptists who showed up.

The rest of them quietly recalled how they still had a job when Clinton was getting his blown, but then they stupidly gave it all up in 2000 for a seemingly morally superior presidente with the vocabulary of Jed Clampett, ears that demarcate repetitive gaps in a caucasian genome, a disturbing lack of empathy bordering on sociopathy, and the ability to throw the nation into massive deficit and spend all their tax money on a war while cutting taxes and leaving the mess for the next poor sucker to clean up.

Personally, if you ask me, Mikey Hock-a-bleat looked a hell of a lot better fat. Seriously; he had a face, now it's kind of a saggy old bag.

lostexpectation

well iowa is more lefty with its dem and more righty withs repubs, so that who won, he won't last though, I think foreign policy mccain will trump him natioanlly, mccain's getting on though.

huckabee is what makes the world scared and bemused by america

Lirange

The-Rigger wrote: »

Obama did well because the Republicans now choose their opponent,

How is that? Enlighten us.

Nightwish wrote: »

Its a very rural state and rural dwellers tend to vote republican.

Generally this is true. But some of the upper midwest is somewhat of an odd exception. Iowa voted for Gore in 2000 and Clinton in 1996 in the presidential election. The state also consistently elects Democrats for governor. Minnesota to the north is also primarily rural but hasn't voted for a Republican in the general election since 1972 when the Democratic party imploded. That state is considered to be more liberal than New York.

Why the Freeper party apparatus fears Huckabee. Unfortunately it's Mr. Coulter so you'll have to hold your stomach to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvme9swPP3g

Again, most of us don't seem to be picking up on it but Huckabee's success could be good for the Dems. He's tearing the economic conservatives and social conservatives apart.

lostexpectation

he does seem to try to act in spurts of genuine christian empathy more then most evangicals but then as someone mentioned that leads to him releasing people early who go on to murder and he doesn't believe in evolution so can't be trusted to think rationally

Pal

Romney is a Mormon. This religion is completely daft. Go check it out. I cannot figure out Americans at all when they come to picking their president. 270 million peple and best they can do is come up religious nutjobs.

ghostdancer

The-Rigger wrote: »

Obama did well because the Republicans now choose their opponent, and Obama will be the easiest to beat.
Though Clinton won't be much harder, she can't even convince women to vote for her in big numbers.

well every poll seems to have Obama beating any Republican candidate (bar the odd one for McCain)

Hillary's chances seem a lot less certain.

lostexpectation

wasn't it the line that the dems gotta win in 2004 when even then it was clear what a cluster**** bush and cheney and rumsfeld had made of things,

they should get to vote for their cabinet.

moe_sizlak

while i would not vote for him , i think mike huckabee is a likeable guy and not only a genuine guy , unlike most republicans , a genuine christian , fox news have been doing something extrordinary recently , they have been attacking huckabee like hes a democrat , fox news and there neo con masters can not allow someone like huckabee to win , he is not imperilist on foreign policy and he is not in favour of rewarding the super rich 1st and foremost , fox news and the neo cons use religon when it suits them , huckabee is sincere in his faith , he is what they call a traditional republican

sure his idea on evolution is wacky but just because he is devout does not mean he is a replica of bush
one thing that is certain though is that if huckabee does get the ticket , he will be trounced in the national poll , his faith is his only real appeal and while that may play well with evangelicals , its irrelevant in the west or east coast

Flukey

Akrasia wrote: »

Why would anyone support a candidate that is either insane, lying to them, or a complete idiot?

Why not? They've elected a few in the past.

Catsmokinpot

Jack Sheehan wrote: »

Tell me now, exactly why would you vote for paul?

He's for the constitution which if you read it is actually a pretty good document. he want's limited government, he is for any voluntary contract between two people including gay marriage, prostitution, gambling, drugs.

All over the world we have spent billions battling prostitution and drugs, and it hasn't worked, it has only been a thorn in the side of the tax payer. we spend more and more each year.

He wants to get rid of the IRS the CIA the Patriot act (which if you read the patriot act, it is the beginning of the dismantling of the constitution)

he wants a strict foriegn policy regarding preemptive war

also had a little rant below.

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54804662&postcount=16

spank_inferno

He seems a likeable person. The chuck norris add campaign was a hit too.
Republicans in iowa are in a minority, they tend to be rural & farming.
Corn growing is really big in the state, any candidate who supports continued subsidies for corn/ethanol etc is always onto a winner.

He'll fade after super tuesday I think
I'm going to guess he'll carry 6-7 states, but not enough delegates to be a threat overall

ghostdancer

GOP seem to be trying to split the winners evenly at the moment.
Fox had a debate last night, and had basically already crowned Romney the winner before it started.
Huckabee and McCain once again had their tag-team job going on Romney.
Huckabee's best line was something along the lines of "i respect John, Fred, Rudy, or anyone else at the this table..." leaving out mentioning Romney
Thompson looked like he really couldn't be bothered taking part.
i sort of liked McCain before I saw the debate last night, but he came across as arrogant and talking through his arse at times.
had Frank Luntz with his usual focus group rubbish afterwards, and an "all-star" in-studio panel.
didn't even bother discussing the debate, just basically said how great Romney was. in fairness, he did conduct himself reasonably well considering Huckabee and McCain basically attacked him the whole night.

the cynic in me says that Fox wants to keep the race as unclear as possible, and have Rudy sweep in on Super Tuesday and take all the states he currently has a lead in....

moe_sizlak

ghostdancer wrote: »

GOP seem to be trying to split the winners evenly at the moment.
Fox had a debate last night, and had basically already crowned Romney the winner before it started.
Huckabee and McCain once again had their tag-team job going on Romney.
Huckabee's best line was something along the lines of "i respect John, Fred, Rudy, or anyone else at the this table..." leaving out mentioning Romney
Thompson looked like he really couldn't be bothered taking part.
i sort of liked McCain before I saw the debate last night, but he came across as arrogant and talking through his arse at times.
had Frank Luntz with his usual focus group rubbish afterwards, and an "all-star" in-studio panel.
didn't even bother discussing the debate, just basically said how great Romney was. in fairness, he did conduct himself reasonably well considering Huckabee and McCain basically attacked him the whole night.

the cynic in me says that Fox wants to keep the race as unclear as possible, and have Rudy sweep in on Super Tuesday and take all the states he currently has a lead in....

frank luntz is officially supporting romney , according to newshounds , luntz appeared in an add for romney on during the ad break on fox news

Catsmokinpot

moe_sizlak wrote: »

frank luntz is officially supporting romney , according to newshounds , luntz appeared in an add for romney on during the ad break on fox news

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFL-LubDF9c

**** YOU FRANK!

lostexpectation

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