What is "a good finisher"?

robz150

WhiteWashMan wrote: »

From the EPL, I would have picked players like Shearer, Owen, Sheringham, Berbatov, Drogba and Andy Cole.I reckon they were all top class finishers.

Andy Cole got goals but he missed an awful lot of chances
wouldn't class him as a great finisher

eZe^

Archimedes wrote: »

His goal to games ratio is just insane when you look at it.

Club....................Apps.......Goals
Cruzeiro...............13............12
PSV....................46.............42
FC Barcelona........37.............32
Internazionale.......69............49
Real Madrid.........127............83
A.C. Milan...........14..............7
Brazil..................97.............62

Best player ever

Imagine him if he stayed injury free... Itd be frightening.

PHB

Eduardo once again shows his finishing ability. It just looks so easy.

Unearthly

Those Ronaldo stats are incredible, and to think Madrid fans used to give him stick

Smegball

Archimedes wrote: »

His goal to games ratio is just insane when you look at it.

Club....................Apps.......Goals
Cruzeiro...............13............12
PSV....................46.............42
FC Barcelona........37.............32
Internazionale.......69............49
Real Madrid.........127............83
A.C. Milan...........14..............7
Brazil..................97.............62

Best player ever

Nistelrooy's must be pretty good too.

KdjaCL

robz150 wrote: »

Andy Cole got goals but he missed an awful lot of chances
wouldn't class him as a great finisher

in a man utd team that created a lot, with his previous teams he was goal every 2 games or above.

eduardo with another clinical finish.

kdjac

Soby

IMO i think its Eduardo in the premier league anyway..based on today..he's just a cool finisher.its basically someone when they get the chance you would bet your house they would score..like henry/rooney/drogba in a one on one situation.

PHB

Ruud's record:
Games-Goals

FC Den Bosch- 69 - 17 = 0.26
SC Heerenveen - 31 - 13 = 0.41
PSV - 67 - 62 = 0.92
United - 140 - 95 = 0.67
Real Madrid - 52 - 33 = 0.63
Holland - 59 - 30 = 0.51
That is unreal

Helix

Soby wrote: »

IMO i think its Eduardo in the premier league anyway..based on today..he's just a cool finisher.its basically someone when they get the chance you would bet your house they would score..like henry/rooney/drogba in a one on one situation.

wouldnt put the contents of the coins section of my wallet on rooney to score from any situation to be perfectly honest

a great finisher he is most certainly not

eZe^

Ronaldo has everything. Pity he never won the CL and had a big injury. If he never got that injury he may have been the best player ever to play the game.

Tusky

Someone needs to start a new thread : Whats a good passer ? :rolleyes:

Jazzy

Luca Toni

Melion

Fowler is definitely the best finisher ive ever seen, RVN not far behind him.

As has been said, a good finisher is someone who you just know is going to score in a one on one situation. They know just what to do, can keep a calm head, and are always in the right place.

kinaldo

Shearer was absolutely lethal in front of goal, especially in his prime, circa 94-97. His finishing was second to none back then. His games/goal ratio at Blackburn and his first season at Newcastle is extraordinary.

At club level he scored of 379 goals in 733 games.

Add to that 30 goals in 60 caps for England.

Club Record (League):
Southampton

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118 games 23 goals
Blackburn Rovers

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138 games 112 goals
Newcastle United

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303 games 148 goals

Club Record (Total):
Southampton

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158 games 43 goals
Blackburn Rovers

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171 games 130 goals
Newcastle United

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404 games 206 goals

kinaldo

The best/most natural finisher I've ever seen is still Romario. He makes Fowler, Rooney, Drogba and co. look distinctly ordinary.

Helix

kinaldo wrote: »

His finishing was second to none back then.

second to 1, robbie fowler

id also have rvn ahead of shearer, but shearer in 3rd

pickarooney

What do people reckon of Bergkamp as a finisher? Does the ability to score goals from unlikely situations come into it or is that another, distinct attribute?

smackbunnybaby

kinaldo wrote: »

Shearer was absolutely lethal in front of goal, especially in his prime, circa 94-97. His finishing was second to none back then. His games/goal ratio at Blackburn and his first season at Newcastle is extraordinary.

At club level he scored of 379 goals in 733 games.

Add to that 30 goals in 60 caps for England.

Club Record (League):
Southampton

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118 games 23 goals
Blackburn Rovers

---

138 games 112 goals
Newcastle United

---

303 games 148 goals

Club Record (Total):
Southampton

---

158 games 43 goals
Blackburn Rovers

---

171 games 130 goals
Newcastle United

---

404 games 206 goals

if shearer is getting a look in than David Hirst has to be included.
Injury robbed him of some vital years. english soccer could have been different with himself and shearer playing for the national team.

Years Club App (Gls)*
1985-1986 Barnsley 28 (9)
1986-1997 Sheffield Wednesday 294 (106)
1997-1999 Southampton 30 (9)


Career total 352 (124)

1991-1992 England 3 (1)
1991-1992 England B 3 (2)


now to be honest i dont think Hirst and Shearer are really clinical finishers when you compare them to Romario or Ronaldo who for me are lethal - but they are certainly 2 excellent all round footballers. Hirst could shoot on his right and left and could head the ball.

Jazzy

Gary Linekar anybody?

have to agree with Kinaldo about Romario. the man knew nowt but to score goals

Xavi6

The Goat -


Games / Goals / goals per game

League 470 (89) 221 0.39

FA Cup 28 (6) 18 0.52

League Cup 37 (5) 16 0.38

Other 17 (6) 5 0.21


Plus 32 goals in 36 games for Bermuda. A legend who did it at all league levels.

gosplan

What the helll are people on about here?

Goals per game is nonsense in this regard.

What you really need to do is compare shots per goal.

I'm guessing RVN would win that vrs anyone.

Spud83

gosplan wrote: »

What the helll are people on about here?

Goals per game is nonsense in this regard.

What you really need to do is compare shots per goal.

I'm guessing RVN would win that vrs anyone.

Well in that reagrd John O'Shea was the best finisher in the premership last year. With an 66% strike rate with 4 goals from 6 shots.

eirebhoy

So "finishing" takes things like positional sense, composure, etc. into account?

dc69

eirebhoy wrote: »

So "finishing" takes things like positional sense, composure, etc. into account?

thats it exactly

smackbunnybaby

eirebhoy wrote: »

So "finishing" takes things like positional sense, composure, etc. into account?

pace, movement and ddddddddeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssiiiiiiirrrrrrrreeeeeeee

Killme00

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Well in that reagrd John O'Shea was the best finisher in the premership last year. With an 80% strike rate with 4 goals from 6 shots.

4 from 6 is not 80%

its 66%

Jazzy

Killme00 wrote: »

4 from 6 is not 80%

its 66%

brilliant

Spud83

Killme00 wrote: »

4 from 6 is not 80%

its 66%

Jazzy wrote: »

brilliant

sorry I edited my post to make it 4 from 6, not 4 from 5 like my original and forgot to alter the percentage

Helix

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Well in that reagrd John O'Shea was the best finisher in the premership last year. With an 66% strike rate with 4 goals from 6 shots.

afraid not

paul robinson had a 100% strike rate

Seaneh

Pre-Chelski, when he was at a team that actually played football, Shevchenko was one of, if not the best finishers in the world.

Argue with me all you like about how he's been poor for chelsea, but you put him back in the Milan team and I guarentee he would finish the season with 15 goals easy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mIEEj3WwsCo

An Citeog

Helix wrote: »

afraid not

paul robinson had a 100% strike rate

Robinson tries to shoot from every kick-out. He really needs to vary that kick it as hard as he can technique!