New Irish Sit-com on RTE TWO?????

pebblesjm

hot fuss wrote: »

I think you'll find that the makers of the Roaring Twenties are indeed 'new talent' and the actors in it haven't been seen much before, so you can't say this is a case of not supporting new talent.

I think you and I would disagree on what constitutes talent I do know however, that better qualified young writers and directors are being turned down because they are asking for more money than RTE, which is renowned may I add for nepotism, are prepared to INVEST.And investing in talent is what they should be doing. And as some kinder soul have suggested perhaps they can help the team behind Roaring twenties to re-work their show, but in my opinion what was on last night was too raw and under developed to warrant an airing on national tv.

Portia

Elmo wrote: »

Setanta that is how a pilot show works. They do it all the time in the USA.



Who else in Ireland is there? TV3?

Are you serious? It's a production company that brings the show to RTE for funding. I'd imagine the script/ pilot DVD was sent around to the numerous companies and rejected before the monkeys at RTE gave them €100,000.

GhostInTheRuins

I'll be honest here, it wasn't as bad as the english class, but it was terrible. There were some genuinely funny bits (I actually laughed out loud at the four goths when they came to the door) but overall it wasn't worth watching.

I'd say it's biggest fault is the so called 'actors' (especially the gay guy and the country guy - dire) and if someone decent was used it would have been 10X more watchable.

Just my opinion.

chadjared

When i heard that rte were putting out this sitcom, with that budget, with those press release pictures, with that bunch of nobs, it felt like someone took a shhhhh it in my stomache. I wasnt going to post anything about how terrible the show was because the last time i got the english class thread shut down. But when i saw the show and stubbsie had already posted i just wanted to air my disgust. I Hate You Stubbsie.

The show was horrible and pathetic, and i beg you all not to unleash any of the tips or obvious secrets on how to make a this show not shhhh it. Stubbsie is already after recieving a ridiculous amount of money to make this and it would make me sick to the core to see him or stubbsies buddy profit further this monstrosity. I beg you all to email rte and let them know its crap and you deserve more. If you have suggestions write your own sitcom. it doesnt cost 100k to make half an hour of self indulgent bull shhh it and these college kids should of known that.


Ps quirky country loud mouths are never funny.

chadjared

oh and being funnier than the english class is not a compliment.

You made the pannel look funny

Dub6Kevin

Congratulations
In classic Irish style, **** the begrudgers.

You showed some ambition and have the potential to go further. So the first episode wasn't as good as you expected but FFS, what do people expect? This isn't like Britain where young writers can develop their craft on BBC funded courses and hone their skills on radio programmes or the US where massive teams work on scripts.

I for one admire your balls (not literally. I mean, I'm not saying they're not admirable - in fact I'm sure they are, just that I've not seen them and am not really in the business of literally admiring the testicles of other men. Glad we cleared that up).

Anyway, Mr Stubbs, how did you get going? I'd love to write for TV myself but don't know where to start.

Cheers

K

AngelinaJolie

chadjared wrote: »

When i heard that rte were putting out this sitcom, with that budget, with those press release pictures, with that bunch of nobs, it felt like someone took a shhhhh it in my stomache. I wasnt going to post anything about how terrible the show was because the last time i got the english class thread shut down. But when i saw the show and stubbsie had already posted i just wanted to air my disgust. I Hate You Stubbsie.

The show was horrible and pathetic, and i beg you all not to unleash any of the tips or obvious secrets on how to make a this show not shhhh it. Stubbsie is already after recieving a ridiculous amount of money to make this and it would make me sick to the core to see him or stubbsies buddy profit further this monstrosity. I beg you all to email rte and let them know its crap and you deserve more. If you have suggestions write your own sitcom. it doesnt cost 100k to make half an hour of self indulgent bull shhh it and these college kids should of known that.


Ps quirky country loud mouths are never funny.

I really don't think you know what you are talking about... but then, you've never made a sit-com. Or have you? If so, I stand corrected.

B1GJH

The Yawning Twenties....Seriously, how on earth does this type of show get on the air?! Especially at a production cost of over €100,000!(I don't know too much about the industry so if any can tell me how this cost 100k i would be greatful) RTE need to get their "act" together and air some good comedy. For example TV3 (stop dissing it) showed "Arrested Development" years ago, one of the greatest comedies ever. Why can't RTE do the same or at least do test screenings of their shows before airing them?.....On the bright side of things, this show has inspired me....to start writing sitcoms for RTE cause if no one else is prepared to do a good job, I am!

Elmo

For example TV3 showed "Arrested Development" years ago, one of the greatest comedies ever.

Don't congradulate TV3 for buying in a TV show.

Yes AD is excellent but TV3 didn't have anything to do with the production.

TV3 where fortunate to be able to buy the show because it was in the Fireworks set of international shows, TV3 had a deal with Fireworks due to there owner Canwest.

And it is for this reason that TV3 get 1 or 2 good shows from the US, not because the outbid RTE but because it was easier to take a cheap package from their owner.

TG Canwest has left TV3 lets hope Dogherty Hanson can do something more constructive, but it does look like they do anything but line their own pockets with huge advertising revenues got on the backs of ITV Soap operas and Reality shows.

Sorry rant over.

Mr E

chadjared wrote: »

... because the last time i got the english class thread shut down. But when i saw the show and stubbsie had already posted i just wanted to air my disgust. I Hate You Stubbsie.

The show was horrible and pathetic...

And with a bile-filled sh*t-stirring post like that, you want this thread to suffer the same fate? Go away.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. There has been negative and positive feedback in this thread, and I think Mr. Stubbs, Angelina and anyone else associated with the show appreciate any feedback (positive or otherwise).

Give it a chance. We need to nurture our homegrown talent, and give constructive criticism, not jump on the "OMG its shiiiiit" bandwagon.

betonit

Mr E, if people think its sh it they're entitled to say so! Its not a bandwangon its public opinion

Elmo

Mr E, if people think its sh it they're entitled to say so! Its not a bandwangon its public opinion

That's fine but when you state the following for no real reason you are just plain hateful, and really is not necessary.

I Hate You Stubbsie.

Take a look back at his rants about the English Class. It only a TV show for gods sake.

Karen_*

chadjared wrote: »

When i heard that rte were putting out this sitcom, with that budget, with those press release pictures, with that bunch of nobs, it felt like someone took a shhhhh it in my stomache. I wasnt going to post anything about how terrible the show was because the last time i got the english class thread shut down. But when i saw the show and stubbsie had already posted i just wanted to air my disgust. I Hate You Stubbsie.

The show was horrible and pathetic, and i beg you all not to unleash any of the tips or obvious secrets on how to make a this show not shhhh it. Stubbsie is already after recieving a ridiculous amount of money to make this and it would make me sick to the core to see him or stubbsies buddy profit further this monstrosity. I beg you all to email rte and let them know its crap and you deserve more. If you have suggestions write your own sitcom. it doesnt cost 100k to make half an hour of self indulgent bull shhh it and these college kids should of known that.


Ps quirky country loud mouths are never funny.

You obviously know Steven personally and 'hate' him therefore your opinion of the show doesn't really carry any weight. You weren't going to like it anyway were you?

Steven well done and congratulations for getting your pilot on air. I know how hard you've worked over the years on your writing. You also got a short film on RTE before. Good for you! Take on board the criticsism and learn from it which I know you will. And keep going. That voiceover was very annoying!

starn

Mr Stubbs wrote: »

But at least I'm awake here at 3.44am trying to give some feedback

Thats your problem mate. Your just to close. I think it's a little unfair all the slack you've been taking. You didnt force RTE to air it.
Someone in RTE made a concious descion to air the show. What I was last night was a absolute mess. It should never of aired. Someone in RTE gave you 100 grand and fvcked off. It should of been almost clear from the onset that the show wasnt working. But you had no one removed from the project, who could look at it subjectily. RTE screewed you over mate. Ill be tuning in next week. Hopefully it will improve. If not, and RTE havent tainted you to much best of luck on your next project.

Mr. Incognito

Thats your problem mate. Your just to close. I think it's a little unfair all the slack you've been taking. You didnt force RTE to air it.
Someone in RTE made a concious descion to air the show. What I was last night was a absolute mess. It should never of aired. Someone in RTE gave you 100 grand and fvcked off. It should of been almost clear from the onset that the show wasnt working. But you had no one removed from the project, who could look at it subjectily. RTE screewed you over mate. Ill be tuning in next week. Hopefully it will improve. If not, and RTE havent tainted you to much best of luck on your next project.

Whoa- RTE didn't write this mess, or direct it, or employ useless actors. It's not RTE's fault it was bile. They are just lazy patronage.

starn

No your right they didnt, and I agree it's a absolute mess. But someone in RTE thought fit to air it. Instead of retooling it or binning it completely.

estebancambias

If everyone was to listen to peoples complaints against shows, then I would never have watched:

Family Guy

Lizzy Maguire

Drake and Josh

The War at Home

Quintuplets

My Wife and Kids

CSI

I listen to people and their opinion on tv with a pinch of salt. People, like with film feel to need to display a sort of snobbiness when it comes to tv. I missed the episode but hopefully I can catch a repeat, but I bet the show was not that bad.

Mr. Incognito

Just watch it. Comparing it to that list is like asking for steak at a sushi bar.

estebancambias

Can someone make a list in point form of what was bad about the show, and when I watch it I can see if I understand where the people who have a negative view on it are coming from.

Mr. Incognito

Acting
Direction
Script
Tracking
Humour

Try that

Capt'n Midnight

I saw dead bodies over on the beeb a little later on http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349340/ so it wasn't a total waste of TV viewing.

Anyway what did anyone think were the funniest bits ?

ruskin

I went into watching this show with an open mind and hoping that RTE would surprise me with a funny, fresh homegrown sitcom. Yet again, I was disapointed although not surprised. Virtually everything about the show was awful. The show seems to have gathered an absolutely terrible bunch of 'actors' to play a group of annoying, dull charaters that cannot be related to on any level (the most annoying hands down being the guy who pretended his mother was dead).The narrater's overbearing voice being used every 5 seconds didnt help either, his presence only being to introduce the characters and situations; Better writing would have introduced things to the audience, and not make us feel like retards. Granted though, it was no english class, but it will be easily forgotten the second after its final episode. Im not an expert on the production of sitcoms, but its my understanding that before the final product is produced, the writers or whoever would have a read through their work among collegues in order to see if it strikes a funny cord with people. Why does this sort of quality control happen during the production of Irish tv programs?

starn

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

I saw dead bodies over on the beeb a little later on http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349340/ so it wasn't a total waste of TV viewing.

Anyway what did anyone think were the funniest bits ?

Anyone thinking they would have a career after it came out

Wertz

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

I saw dead bodies over on the beeb a little later on http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349340/ so it wasn't a total waste of TV viewing.

Without wanting to stray OT (again), I watched that too....good show. But it suffered from the usual Irish film/drama trait, that being: different show, same actors. It's the one thing that pisses me off about anything that's well done in Irish film, we have such a small pool of decent actors to choose from that they inevitably pop up all over in different roles. Obviously casters want to play it safe and get people they know can act and attract an audience but it leaves little room for emerging talent.
That said, the characters were somewhat believable if a little stereotypical, the thing was well scripted and shot and the acting was decent (as one comes to expect from the usual suspects).

As for what was funny in Roaring 20's...I don't know, I wasn't making a list. The little things like "mini aldee", the jibe at rugby players the goth orgy thing, the bit with the nicked terminator scene...the quirkiness in general and some of the banter; unlike a lot of Dubs I have nothing against regional accents although the bid lad did ham up the part a wee bit. Oh and yeah that office scene was the poorest part IMO.
Apparently I'm easily amused though since I'm one of the < 1% who laughed at any point during the thing...

starn

starn wrote: »

Anyone thinking they would have a career after it came out

That was quite mean. I take it back

Boggles

I'm confused

Was Vixen, Fas Girl?

giftgrub

Sat down and watched it the other night, i lasted ten minutes, switched over for a while, then back for the last 5 minutes

The main thing that struck me was that it wasnt funny. Deeply, Deeply Unfunny in fact

Even my wife, who would laugh at anything, had a face on her like she kissed the wrong end of the baby

As a licence payer (honestly, i do!) i feel like asking for a refund.

And if the creators dont like criticism they should take their ball and go home.

Just out of curiosity, on a 100 grand budget, does anyone have any idea how much they'd personally pocket?

Looking forward to Liam Fays review..

Just found this as well

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54737077&postcount=84

note the third para

Mr Stubbs

Interesting comments, people. Strange how everyone bangs on about how RTE never new give new ‘talent’ a chance. Well you could not have been more ‘new’ than us. If you think it failed, fair enough, but please don’t criticize RTE for trying something new. It actually got higher ratings than expected and a pretty good review in the Evening Herald by PROFESSIONAL critic, Pat Stacey: ”It’s a bit of a messy jumble but there was definite flashes of wit and invention. It’s certainly an attempt at something a bit different.”
And sure I did indeed say “why don’t you write your own comedy and see how good you are?” and I said it because I was one of the ranting nerds up until recently myself — baying for blood with the gusto of a medieval mob — so i got off my fat arse, quit my job, spent my entire savings and made the original pilot — a pilot that RTE liked enough to give us a chance with 2 more Episodes.

The biggest problem with the reaction to this show is not that I’ll have to return to my call centre job and probable eventual suicide — but that RTE will probably never give another couple of young unknowns a chance ever again. So once again I repeat: If you’re not happy with RTE’s comedy output go ahead and try to do better — thats what we did, and believe me, it ain’t as easy as it looks.

On the bright side, the amazingly well written, well acted, well directed, well edited second installment of ‘The Roaring Twenties’ will take place at 10.50pm this coming Monday January 14th. Thanks for watching!!!

PS: RTE will be showing another 'experimental' comedy show next Tuesday called 'Working Girls With Katherine Lynch'. Good luck Katherine, hope it gets a better reaction --- but I'd advise you to avoid Boards at all costs!!!

Annamander

Don't give up Mr. Stubbs!

listerdave

What were the ratings Mr Stubbs?

starn

Mr Stubbs wrote: »

that RTE will probably never give another couple of young unknowns a chance ever again.

Well who's to blame for that, mate. Had you made a solid quality product. There would be no one here complaining, and RTE would be more willing to invest in new talent.

But to be fair mate, I honestly think RTE stiched you up. No one who has seen this show could possible think it was fit to air.

But keep at it, and best of luck with any future projects

AngelinaJolie

giftgrub wrote: »

Sat down and watched it the other night, i lasted ten minutes, switched over for a while, then back for the last 5 minutes

The main thing that struck me was that it wasnt funny. Deeply, Deeply Unfunny in fact

Even my wife, who would laugh at anything, had a face on her like she kissed the wrong end of the baby

As a licence payer (honestly, i do!) i feel like asking for a refund.

And if the creators dont like criticism they should take their ball and go home.

Just out of curiosity, on a 100 grand budget, does anyone have any idea how much they'd personally pocket?

Looking forward to Liam Fays review..

Just found this as well

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=54737077&postcount=84

note the third para

From reading all the posts on this thread, I reckon I could divide the posters into three camps:

1. People who didn't find it funny at all

To those people I say: Fair enough, it didn't appeal to your sense of humour and you feel aggrieved about (and I'm paraphrasing here) 'the waste of your licence fee on this rubbish' etc, etc

2. The Begrudgers

You all know who you are. This group did not find The Roaring Twenties funny at all, but not only do they rant about RTE and 'wasting the licence fee', they also attack anyone creatively involved in the show. To those people I say: Fair enough, just don't expect the creators or anyone connected to the show to like it.

3. The people that believe that The Roaring Twenties has potential, if given the chance..

To those people I say: Thank you, you viewed the first episode with an open mind. Granted, it was a little rough around the edges in places but bear in mind, it is a pilot. That's why the creators need to get constructive criticism about what works and what doesn't work.

And by the way, 100k is not a lot in television production. Check it out rates on www.filmbase.ie or www.iftn.ie and you'll see how quickly money can be spent on a professional crew.

PS Vixen is not the FAS girl.. She's on this Monday 14th January at 10.50pm on RTE2.

Havermeyer

Dear everybody on these boards.....

And especially this guy/girl,

First off, I want to point out how pilots are generally received: people hate them. No, let me clarify that: people hate what's actually got the potential to be something be good.
Fact: Seinfeld was almost cancelled after the first season because people thought it was crap.
Fact: Arrested Development, one of the best sit-coms to come out of America in years, was cancelled in the third season.
Fact: Family Guy was cancelled.
Fact: Futurama was cancelled.
So......
Do you want RTE do spout the bull that comes from American networks or do you want to support the writers who love the above shows?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but for this seems to be pissing on something for the sake of pissing on something.

When have you ever seem something like this on RTE?

Better than The English Class?

You mean a cheap rip-off of Mind Your Language meets The Office is the height of comedy compared to The Roaring Twenties?

If you really think this, well, sir, you really don't know comedy, in my opinion.

So are you trying to say that, given the chance, this anti-comedy would become as good as seinfeld or even close? If so, are you mental? You may have some reason to defend this show, but it just was not funny. Only a handful of people are defending it, and quite adamantly imo. Quite strange, don't you think.

And if you think that this show has potential, or was even remotely funny, I fear that you also have absolutely no clue what comedy is, or is meant to be.

skelliser

who is vixen and can she get her own show?
id buy that for a dollar!

about the show, it was rough,very rough although there is some small little bit of potential for it to be good.
its interesting to hear from the writers here begrudgers aside.
how did ye go about making it? the process involved etc?

these pilots or whatever there called should be a regular thing imho someone is bound to get it right eventually and its the only way ppl will get better etc

Mossy Monk

I watched it last night. It was terribly unfunny, brutally acted and the voice over provided by Oliver Carroll was annoying. I will not be bothering with part 2.

kmick

Mr Stubbs wrote: »

Interesting comments, people. Strange how everyone bangs on about how RTE never new give new ‘talent’ a chance. Well you could not have been more ‘new’ than us. If you think it failed, fair enough, but please don’t criticize RTE for trying something new. It actually got higher ratings than expected and a pretty good review in the Evening Herald by PROFESSIONAL critic, Pat Stacey: ”It’s a bit of a messy jumble but there was definite flashes of wit and invention. It’s certainly an attempt at something a bit different.”
And sure I did indeed say “why don’t you write your own comedy and see how good you are?” and I said it because I was one of the ranting nerds up until recently myself — baying for blood with the gusto of a medieval mob — so i got off my fat arse, quit my job, spent my entire savings and made the original pilot — a pilot that RTE liked enough to give us a chance with 2 more Episodes.

The biggest problem with the reaction to this show is not that I’ll have to return to my call centre job and probable eventual suicide — but that RTE will probably never give another couple of young unknowns a chance ever again. So once again I repeat: If you’re not happy with RTE’s comedy output go ahead and try to do better — thats what we did, and believe me, it ain’t as easy as it looks.

On the bright side, the amazingly well written, well acted, well directed, well edited second installment of ‘The Roaring Twenties’ will take place at 10.50pm this coming Monday January 14th. Thanks for watching!!!

PS: RTE will be showing another 'experimental' comedy show next Tuesday called 'Working Girls With Katherine Lynch'. Good luck Katherine, hope it gets a better reaction --- but I'd advise you to avoid Boards at all costs!!!

Heres my 2 cents with not having seen the show...
1) 100k is very little money
2) 6 weeks is too little time
3) Boards users tend to be highly critical but in a yearning for you to be better way rather than a begrduger way.
4) You have had mixed feedback I would say - lots of people have said there is a seed there.
5) The next time you have a pilot why not invite 100 boards users to a screening. Give them feedback cards and a glass of wine and let them do their worst. Then iteration by iteration make it better.
6) Next time someone says can you make two pilots in 6 weeks for 100k say no but I could make 1 good one in 12 weeks and 200k. Sometimes its worth saying 'no but maybe if...' - so that quality can improve
7) Good luck with Pilot II
8) I hope your ambition leads you to getting a short run of shows from the pilot. Dont give up hope.

Wertz

AngelinaJolie wrote: »

PS Vixen is not the FAS girl.. She's on this Monday 14th January at 10.50pm on RTE2.

Ah, would FÁS girl be the fine pair of nipples I spotted poking out of a red jumper in the teaser for the second ep?

Mr E

nummnutts wrote: »

So are you trying to say that, given the chance, this anti-comedy would become as good as seinfeld or even close? If so, are you mental?

Seinfeld is horribly overrated (sorry Jerry fans), and even then, it was rough enough in the early days.

With alot of these comedys, you have to get used to characters over a series of episodes.

Anyway, I'll be watching Fás Girl The Roaring Twenties next week.

AngelinaJolie

Wertz wrote: »

Ah, would FÁS girl be the fine pair of nipples I spotted poking out of a red jumper in the teaser for the second ep?

The very same lassie. Those nipples were requested by many people

Mylow

Annamander wrote: »

Don't give up Mr. Stubbs!

I second that, it's a quirky show...I enjoyed it.

po0k

Mr E wrote: »

Seinfeld is horribly overrated (sorry Jerry fans)

Indeed.

Observe common occurrence.
Announce observation of common occurrence.
Co-star repeats announcement posed as question.
"Well don't you think it's funny that [occurence] [occurred]?"
Pause for canned laughter.

Fnck you and your banality Jerry.

Earthhorse

Mr. Stubbs, thanks for taking the time to post in this thread.

I was just wondering if you could tell us what Crockett is like in real life?

Thanks again.

AngelinaJolie

nummnutts wrote: »

So are you trying to say that, given the chance, this anti-comedy would become as good as seinfeld or even close? If so, are you mental? You may have some reason to defend this show, but it just was not funny. Only a handful of people are defending it, and quite adamantly imo. Quite strange, don't you think.

And if you think that this show has potential, or was even remotely funny, I fear that you also have absolutely no clue what comedy is, or is meant to be.

I did say earlier that I was connected with the show. So you may say that I am bias. But all the same I did guffaw quite loudly when I watched the episode - particularly when Vixen gets her comeuppence, the mini-aldee and spit roasting expose scene, the room-mate interviews, Seamus doing the dishes and spraying 'suds' all over Ray, Seamus enjoying tag rugby...

But hey that's my sense of humour, and if that classifies me as 'mental' in your opinion, then I'm mental.

Emuukha

Mr Stubbs wrote: »

Strange how everyone bangs on about how RTE never new give new ‘talent’ a chance. Well you could not have been more ‘new’ than us.

With all due respect - what you've said above is exactly the problem, that RTE are not giving new talent a chance and that this was demonstrated by The Roaring Twenties. When €100,000 taxpayers money was spent on this show, it's just plain insulting to any young talent in Ireland as well as a fee paying audience.

And quoting one "pretty good review", from the HERALD (?!!) is not exactly the best endorsement, I don't think that's going to shut everyone up or validate the piece.

And the biggest problem with the show? I don't think it's the fear that RTE will be wary of repeating their mistake. But I do see how the license fee payers are so annoyed at how that money is wasted so absurdly. And that this particular show was a serious embarrasment for us. And it just keeps happening...

If you think everyone here is a "ranting nerd" and boards.ie is to be avoided at all costs then stop visiting.

Elmo

When €100,000 taxpayers money was spent on this show, it's just plain insulting to any young talent in Ireland as well as a fee paying audience.

I think if we all watched the Graham Linehan Documentry on RTE ONE the other night you would all know that C4 spent alot of money on his first project which was dreadful it was called Paris.

C4 is a semistate body.

If they had taken this attitude Fr. Ted would never have seen the light of day.

Wertz

Emuukha wrote: »

When €100,000 taxpayers money was spent on this show, it's just plain insulting to any young talent in Ireland as well as a fee paying audience.

So how would that particular €100K have been better spent WRT fostering emerging talent, if you had a hold on the pursestrings?
RTÉ spend/waste relatively vast sums on other projects, high wages and who knows what else....to single out this particular hundred grand is a bit petty considering the total expenditure. Another point; the money spent stayed in the country too, and didn't go to some US production company for airing rights of another samey sitcom...

ianrush

If RTE is serious about its comedy output, here's one suggestion. Right now the head of entertainment has a massive remit covering too many shows (all that "you're a star", "celebrity jigs and reels" garbage etc). Create a head of comedy, someone who's only job it is, is to deal with the commissioning and development of sit-coms/comedies. Have someone directly responsible for the quality of the output and suddenly you might see some proper development and nuturing of new talent for a change. As I have said in previous posts, the quality of the show we saw last monday was as much a result of RTE mismanagement as anything else IMO. Anyone who works in this industry (and I do) would have told you that given the budget, time and experience involved, the odds were completely against them producing anything better than what we saw.

Havermeyer

I think if we all watched the Graham Linehan Documentry on RTE ONE the other night you would all know that C4 spent alot of money on his first project which was dreadful it was called Paris.

C4 is a semistate body.

If they had taken this attitude Fr. Ted would never have seen the light of day.

But they didn't take 'that' attitude with Fr. Ted because Fr. Ted was good. Paris was ****. Simple as. It's not rocket science. Fr. Ted was good from the start, from the first episode till the last. It wasn't a case of it being crap and needing time to develop, which is what is being said of the roaring twenties. It took a while to catch on for the simple reason that it was not a 'safe' situation comedy. A sitcom about three priests on an island. You can see why people may have been apprehensive. Whereas the roaring twenties is a safe option. Four zany, well, supposedly zany friends, living in Rathmines. It's a fairly run of the mill format, which with any real effort should never be so badly done as said program. New actors, writers, direction, producers and editors are sorely needed if the alleged potential of this program is ever to be realized. Losing the ****ty voice over might help too. As was said above, it wasn't funny and the majority of the viewing audience aren't spastics and don't need to be spoon fed the plot/character profiles etc. I also failed to grasp why the arcade fire song was used as the signature tune. It didn't fit in with the theme or what the creators were trying to achieve. That surprised me more than how overacted the show was.

Capt'n Midnight

AngelinaJolie wrote: »

From reading all the posts on this thread, I reckon I could divide the posters into three camps:
1. People who didn't find it funny at all
2. The Begrudgers
3. The people that believe that The Roaring Twenties has potential, if given the chance..

you missed category 4. the ones waiting for this bit of news

PS Vixen is not the FAS girl.. She's on this Monday 14th January at 10.50pm on RTE2.

RTE could do with more comedy shows on the radio perhaps to grow talent that way ?
There is a lot of comedy stuff on BBC Radio 4 , some household names, some more experemental, a lot of the TV shows across the pond started on radio

Wertz

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

RTE could do with more comedy shows on the radio perhaps to grow talent that way ?
There is a lot of comedy stuff on BBC Radio 4 , some household names, some more experemental, a lot of the TV shows across the pond started on radio

Yup, even the late great Dermot Morgan started off on radio and look where that lead him.
The thing you're missing here is that RTÉ radio barely even has any sort of drama output on it's only answer to BBCR4; it's all personality lead broadcasting, public opinion and current affairs. When was the last time you heard an audio book or a home produced play on the station? Where would said comedy shows fit in with their current programming mandate? TV is their chosen medium for drama and comedy...sure the radio is only for music and talking. :rolleyes:
I can think of one instance of comedy on the RTE's airwaves; knob nation....and that was only done in reply to gift grub. Eammon Lowe on TodayFM is about the only bit of radio comedy I can think of that goes beyond political satire and impressions, into the realm of comedy, on the national airwaves.

The system is broken and needs a radical shake up, but that's as likely to happen as a the TV license being abolished...