Homes Urgently Needed

peasant

As this thread has strayed far off topic an into a general discussion, I allow myself to make another general remark ...and I'd like to stress expressedly that is NOT directed at any of the posters here personally.

At the end of the day, taking on an animal as a pet is about responsibility.

You are just as responsible for that animal as you are for the rest of your family or yourself.

The animal depends on you as its caregiver. You have to feed it, you have to keep it healthy, you have to interact with it, train it, nurture it, keep it from harm and keep it in conditions that suit it.

When you take on an animal you are supposed to know (or make sure to find out) what all of this entails and for how long it is approximately going to be.

In case of a dog, you have to ask yourself what your circumstances are going to be like for the next 10-15 years and what your goals in life are for this period.

Leaving aside unplannable life changing events like severe illness or accidents, you have to go through every scenario and ask yourself, can you reasonably expect to shoulder the responsibility for this animal for that period and make provisions for it?

This includes things like going to college, getting married, having children, going on holidays or even just simply going to work every day.

If you have any doubt that somewhere along the way the animal is going to be in the way or sold short ...then don't get one in the first place.


This is true "animal love"

ruimar

that person doesnt exist, knowbody is perfect

peasant

I beg to differ ...you're looking at one of them

Love&Light

:cool:

Whispered

I can guarantee you that person does exist, responsible dog owners are like this.

ruimar

hmmm.... i beg to differ. I really dont care any more! I only joined boards to see if anyone knew where I could buy chromatic alginate hehehehehehe

AckwelFoley

ruimar wrote: »

hmmm.... i beg to differ. I really dont care any more! I only joined boards to see if anyone knew where I could buy chromatic alginate hehehehehehe

Your local pharmacy.

Rub it on the infected spot twice daily.

You should have been more careful.

Whispered

ruimar wrote: »

hmmm.... i beg to differ. I really dont care any more! I only joined boards to see if anyone knew where I could buy chromatic alginate hehehehehehe

Ah so when the name calling and attacks on me personally dont work you say you dont care.

Ruimar, I dont know how many dogs you have gotten rid of, but I can assure it's not as normal as you are trying to make out. Thankfully the majority of dog (pet) owners are responsible, loving people and would not dream of giving up a member of their family for a reason such as this. I dont know what type of people you know, but the type of "animal love" described by peasant is something we should all aspire to if we haven't already reached.

(you can get chromatic alignate on Ebay)

bernard0368

I think this thread has gone off the point. Well said Mod. A dog is for life but hindsight is 20 20. Finkwad's life may not have gone to plan. While I am not in a position to help with the dogs already having two. I hope you have every success in rehoming them finkwad.

In this celtic tiger era I do believe that couples are getting dogs as subsitutes to children, I am sure we will see more dogs abandoned when children appear. I hope anyone who comes on this site gets a better reception.

All my dogs from childhood to now have been rescues and if I get another in the future (S)he will be a rescue. Helena I will promise it wont be coming from you.

ruimar

ah jees, give it up helena! you are sounding like a broken record. Lets just move on and hope the dogs get rehomed, afterall ,that is the most important thing in this situation.

Hellrazer

This thread has gotten out of hand between the personal attacks and the fact that there is a big stickied "Post all homes wanted ads here" thread at the very top of the forum.

ITS ALSO IN THE CHARTER.

If anyone else decides to start their own thread for rehoming Im going to delete the thread straight away--the reason for the stickied thread was to stop this crap from going on.

Whispered

LOL Ruimar, I am reply to one of your posts! The one in which you implied that it's ok to do this sort of thing and that it's normal to not look after your dogs. If you want me to stop saying it's wrong then stop trying to justify it. The fact of the matter is the OP asked for help but cannot accept what she is doing.

However I do agree that it's the dogs that are important here and I lost sight of that in the heat of this discussion. . I didn't agree with what she was doing in the first place and made that clear, I PM'd her with some options to see if there was any other way, as she had said she was devestated etc, suggested helping her to find obedience classes or places she can socialise her dogs in her area, but she didn't want to know. When I realised these dogs were originally rescues I was very angry, justifiably so, (they were fab puppies if anyone wants to see pic btw).

Bernard, it's very true what you said about the celtic tiger, there will be masses more animals abandoned due to children coming along. Many of them will be PTS. If people would just think twice before getting a dog it would save so many lives.

I really hope these boys get rehomed quickly. And I hope this rescue will be their last. As far as I know anneka is helping too. It would be great if she found somewhere.

Finkwad, did you get in touch with Last Hope?


(sorry hellrazer - posted before I realised you said that, feel free to delete)

sebastianv

I find this thread most disturbing, I don't know the "ins and outs" and don't really want to, as others have said the OP posted here looking for advice on how to re-home the dogs and perhaps a little help (( rightly or wrongly ))
Situations and circumstance do change in life and we humans are not infallible, we are creatures that sometimes get it wrong, and need advice.

No one takes away from the great work that some rescues to either, but do some gets so blinded by the "cause" that their energy is so taken up with the dogs, dogs, dogs, they then have little sympathy for the human.

My own exsperience regarding a rescue dog was not a good one and YES the dog went back, BUT.
A) I was mislead by the rescue. I needed a cat friendly dog or at least one who respond to TRAINING. There were several other factors why we needed a placid dog, that would be company for our existing dog, and why we needed a relatively happy house hold. We were however prepared to put work in, which we were not unrealistic about.
Without being TOLD! I got out a well known and proficient dog trainer (who agreed our home was NOT the place for this dog.

I contacted the rescue who WERE NOT PLEASED, when I say rescue the lady who was representing the rescue, so in my mind you wear the badge then you talk for them.
I was told the dog was "cat tested" still don't know how that works, and he was fine with them, I felt at no time what I was saying was sinking in. She finally told me to return the dog, this could NOT be done right away as she needed to find ANOTHER foster for it and that would take time, again I held onto the dog and it was a NIGHTMARE.

On returning the dog she brought up the issue of the donation and how I would have to wait to get it back as it was now in the system. AT NO TIME WOULD I HAVE TAKEN THAT BACK IT WAS A GIFT TO THE RESCUE. The way it was said (In my mind) was the donation was more important to hang onto than the dog.

It was NOT a good exsperience, we finally got our Millie from a vets via this board (thank you) God love her she is 14 blind, gone through a major op this week and has fitted in here like a glove. We all win.:)

I hope this thread will be locked or just disapear and others think about that old saying about walking a mile in someone shoes. Rescue is a two way thing support for the mere humans and finding good homes for the dogs..with back up and support.
Helen I will gladly pm YOU the name of the rscue a I think you know it very well!!!
Seb

Whispered

sebastianv, that sounds like an absolute nightmare. It's a pity you had such a bad experience and in that case I can understand your need to return the dog. I have cats myself so dogs that are with me, I can honestly answer whether they are cat friendly or not. I dont think people should say that a dog is "cat friendly" unless the dog has been fostered and lived with cats TBH. If you bring a dog out of a pound for a walk and he ignores a cat, I dont think this means he's cat tested (although I'm sure some people would disagree), the poor dogs prob so stunned at being out of his enclosure he didn't even notice the cat! That does not mean that in a household situation it will be the same story. TBH i dont see why you shouldn't have asked for the donation back, as the next adopter will have to pay it for the dog again anyway. Fair play to you for not though. Every penny counts.

Again sebastianv, it is a shame you had such a bad experience. That is why it is so important the dogs are placed in foster homes. People can then gague their personalities. It is very important to get a dog which fits into your family, that way he can become a part of your family. I'm glad you got the dog that was suitable for you from a vet. God love her, blind and all. I've never had a blind dog but I hear they cope amazingly well!